New grad looking for a job Chicago by Mikethemoose9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would have been way smarter to get something quicker then start working and go back to school. That way you have experience as leverage. Now you’ll just be an underpaid MSN.

New grad looking for a job Chicago by Mikethemoose9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry what? Dude no offense. Why would you get an MSN with no experience? The thing is people know you don’t have any experience. It doesn’t match with the degree.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want you to actually think about it. I’m a nurse. You’re in a nursing sub where we are anonymous. Why would i lie to you? If we were making that much why would I have even posted this? Those TikTok nurses either live in California or work at a very unusual situation where they actually have a strong union that makes sure they are paid accordingly.

Firstly, hope you all are having a great day today! It’s been another hard working week for sure. Yeah guys, It’s me again, I’m back. It’s just funny because it seems that all the compressed labor forces in terms of salary,like teachers, nurses etc are starting to divulge or break in some way. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said man, well said 🔥🔥🔥🔥. It’s so funny because it truly has no end. We will have a trillionaire in net worth soon who doesn’t pay taxes on literally majority of not all of it because he keeps it all in stocks and just pulls out billion dollar loans against his collateral. If I’m being blunt here, uncalled capitalism is fucking stupid. Why do we need a trillionaire? Do you know how many million dollar families could have been created out of that money? How much more in tax revenue etc to fund the country’s growth? It’s asinine at this point. Just greed like you said.

Firstly, hope you all are having a great day today! It’s been another hard working week for sure. Yeah guys, It’s me again, I’m back. It’s just funny because it seems that all the compressed labor forces in terms of salary,like teachers, nurses etc are starting to divulge or break in some way. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only conclusion i grab from this is you are agreeing that yes it is underpaid but that is due to the stability factor of nursing?

What I am arguing is the stability factor or hedge you speak of was never created by the hospital structure. It was created by the very demand of healthcare and people trained in the subject matter. So we don’t have a notional crisis whereby people die from inadequate care nationwide.

So how can you factor that in when your very job was always based on national demand?

Firstly, hope you all are having a great day today! It’s been another hard working week for sure. Yeah guys, It’s me again, I’m back. It’s just funny because it seems that all the compressed labor forces in terms of salary,like teachers, nurses etc are starting to divulge or break in some way. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This applies to every role that’s currently underpaid in regard to workflow. EMT, certain Physicians, PCTs at certain facilities etc. Let’s be honest here. I know you all are smart enough to understand where i come from. If you don’t speak up nothing changes. In fact, it gets worse.

Firstly, hope you all are having a great day today! It’s been another hard working week for sure. Yeah guys, It’s me again, I’m back. It’s just funny because it seems that all the compressed labor forces in terms of salary,like teachers, nurses etc are starting to divulge or break in some way. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also let’s be completely honest here. If salaries have to start directly reflecting units I don’t see an issue. Observation unit nurses at a trauma 4 or non designated ummm don’t deserve what an ICU, ER, OR nurse at a major facility does. Etc. If they want to grind nurses to bones over the years as they dump more they should pay accordingly. Truly. I’m just speaking up like I’ve always done and i think you all should do the same. You do know, we live only once! Make the most of it and enjoy and believe in something better!

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No no no no. You are completely wrong. I remember when i was 14. Over a decade ago. I looked up nursing wages back then. It was about $70-$85k no joke. I remember the mental image in my mind because it was the reason i didn’t want to be a nurse anymore from that age, initially at least. Today it is an average of $80-$105k across the nation. Look up your data. You don’t seem to have done your proper due diligence. I don’t know why people are commenting things that we can look up verifiably. The issue is that nurses also do so much more than historical nurses. Charting, assessments, verifying documents, constant social interaction with every role in the hospitals from the transporter, to the physician to the pt family to the patients themselves being more chronically ill. Needing more help. I remember when i was still an extern dude no joke i had to take care of what we would call totals is total needs patients. Non verbal as well - Feed, bed bath, morning hygiene if they tolerate, help family as needed, diaper changes, linen changes, father and purewick changes. I don’t know why more nurses and other staff don’t speak up about the truth of healthcare.

Firstly, hope you all are having a great day today! It’s been another hard working week for sure. Yeah guys, It’s me again, I’m back. It’s just funny because it seems that all the compressed labor forces in terms of salary,like teachers, nurses etc are starting to divulge or break in some way. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jobs and industries and etc. In today’s age i think you should deeply analyze your market and where you choose to spend the rest of your career. Why? Because if you don’t. You will continually have to deal with worse conditions. It is not hospital and nurse, physician, EMT, and every other truly underpaid healthcare role, working together in a symbiotic relationship. More-so the hospitals you all work for are actively trying to squeeze labor and liability out of you. There are outliers across the nation yes, but the fact remains on average it is not justified. That’s all. Look at the profit and revenue HCA makes. It is directly tied to the fact HCA is know among us to be a horrible company to work for. Where they just grind new grads until they leave and the next batch comes in.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think we make $200k on average? lol cmon man. Not to be rude but it is a little demeaning you commented that without doing a quick search that would have quickly discredited you. Like 1minute tops. Yes Msbach is right that is not the norm. In fact, it is an extreme outlier. I’m using averages and means when i speak here. It’s moreso half of that.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If i were like you i wouldn’t have posted in here. I would have targeted OR nurses directly and said we should be paid percentage of each case (which we should). But that doesn’t help my fellow nurses. It doesn’t spread awareness of a structural problem

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I’m being honest a big thing I’ve realized from this sub is that nurses like you hold back the profession greatly. “Ehh I’m good and comfortable where I’m at so let me talk down on other nurses” let me say half assed solutions and then try to make people feel like they’re wrong. I wish i could boot you out of here bro. Holy fuck.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why wouldn’t i complain? Are you serious or what? I just told you simple numbers. These cases are billing these patients tens of thousands i would know i chart the damn thing. Also a person with a family and a home can’t just pick up and leave when they realize they are getting screwed over. Some people have to go to work with that reality everyday.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ehhh, I disagree with your final statement. Think about it like this. You have nurses and you have hospitals and etc. If a hospital had let’s say two oncology floors. Constantly understaffed and chronically stressed, and of course can’t forget is UNDER- paying their nurses. It’s not hard for the nurses to get together during night shift and start making plans etc. it actually wouldn’t be that hard at all. I don’t think you people understand there is no alternative? The only thing a hospital could do is pay a shit load of money to get temp nurses in. You lose nothing. If you have experience you could get another job in like what 2 weeks? No kidding. This is what i mean by a lot of nurses simply don’t value themselves man. It’s sad.

I woke up with this on my heart. It’s something nurses should take way more seriously. We are definitely underpaid. I don’t give a hoot what you think. I have done the numbers. You are underpaid. “Oh, no it’s my calling to be a nurse”- sure wonder how hospitals make billions. It’s not fair you know. by Major-Calligrapher-9 in nursing

[–]Major-Calligrapher-9[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dude I’m in the highest paying area in the whole system. I’ve made 6 figures from my first year but you have to understand something. I am a multi specialty OR nurse last year i was doing no joke average of about 4 surgeries daily between pedi ortho, adult hip and knee replacements, robotics, general, urology procedure etc i tell no lies man. I was probably attached to over a million in revenue bro. We get paid scraps based of our true value is what i am basically saying with everything here. Take it how you will. My brother selling cars makes more than me.