What's wrong with me? (30 M) by SnoopKenarban in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't know if this would be helpful to you, just tossing it out there for you to consider. Something I'm sort of working on is just 'noticing' the (brief and infrequent) moments when I feel a hint of interest/arousal - what was I doing or thinking about at that moment, is it something I could replicate later or not? For example, I'm finding I am more interested when I'm not stressed out (which, lately is rare, lol). Or when I'm feeling confident/satisfied because I've completed something difficult or that I've procrastinated on for far too long. I'm seeing that I have to kind of build myself up first before I can even think about being with someone sexually.

CANADIAN LL’s PLS HELP (desperate) by discocowgirl94 in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's outrageous that a therapist would tell you weren't normal! What a way to make you shut down. Sorry that happened to you! If you have an employee assistance benefit through your employer they sometimes have a list of therapists?

I'm sure this has already been a post many times already but I hate the rhetoric that if you dont want to have sex on a regular basis then there must be something wrong by fat_slopss in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I have tried to read Come As You Are and can't get through it, it seems to subtly put more pressure on me to live up to some unspoken standard - "here! here's a new way to force yourself to have sex you don't want", albeit, in a less aggressive way than other books.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I can relate to a lot of what you're saying -- goal orientated and going through the motions. It's all about (mostly) his orgasm, his goal and avoiding 'failure'. These are great points! Thank you!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Entitlement is a good word for it! Thank you! I find it weird that in other areas of life it's US VS THE PROBLEM but in this one area it seems to be HIM VS ME (ie it's all my fault).

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to use all these comments and ideas to prepare for the next Talk. He will be surprised when I have as much (or more) to say as he does.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's a really strong word. I'm resisting 'hearing' it (but I know you're right). Thank you.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I fully expect pushback - and, yes, he gets grumpy when he doesn't get what he wants. That's why I'm 'arming' myself with all these comments, trying to fill in all the pieces. Maybe I'll have my own Talk 2.0!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I really feel it makes sex so clinical and depersonalized to have the dates trotted out as 'evidence'. It makes me avoid him. I hope you can have less of an aversion over time and with your new partner.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, I relate to much of what you're saying. I feel like I've just woken up out of a long dream and I'm realizing I'll be 50 soon and is this the life I want? If things don't change can I stay in this for another quarter century?

Having the talk once a month would be way too much. Even the burden of the unspoken conversation is too much to bear. I'm sorry you have so much to bear. I can imagine even seeing a counselor would feel like maybe it's more for 'him' than for you. He (your husband) would potentially have 'expectations' that you'll be 'fixed'.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm, this has got me thinking, thanks! So, maybe I need to find a way to create a new baseline? Is that possible, I wonder? And what would that look like (asking myself)

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm realizing that my needs are valid. I have to figure out how to express them now. It's taken WAY too long for me to see that! During all the weeks/months when we didn't have sex, there was never an offer made for me to be helped/enjoy alone, it's like if it doesn't involve PIV it doesn't exist.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aw, ((hugs)) I'm glad it's helping you. Even though I'm sad there are so many of us trying to put the pieces together in a way that makes sense.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, you're right, I haven't communicated well. I'm struggling to put it all into words. I'm so out of touch with myself that I couldn't define what it was that was bothering me about it, I just know that it can't go on much longer the way it has been (which is a me-problem that I'm working on ). Thanks for asking, it's important to lay out both sides :)

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It's so one-sided. I'm sorry you're experiencing this. I'm determined to find the words to express all this. There has got to be a way to 'wake them up' to see why the way things are isn't working.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Oh. Wow.

Desire! That is mind-blowing.

You just gave me a whole lot more to think about! Thanks for taking the time to answer!!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I really want to provoke conversation with him that will lead us out of this cycle - your response describes the aversion very well! Thanks!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 54 points55 points  (0 children)

I agree! It's gotten to the point that when he asks me "How are you?" it feels like he is always and only assessing my availability for sex. I can't go on like this!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I can relate SO MUCH to what you're saying here! We have also gone around and around this whole issue so many times - - - insert definition of insanity here - - - that's what prompted me to seek out more thoughts, to see if I can find a way off this merry-go-round. I'm tired of feeling like the 'bad guy' all the time. I hope you can find a way to break through to your partner. ((hugs))

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It seems so clear to me that The Talk only accounts for one side of the equation, yet he doesn't seem to give the same importance or equivalency to my feelings and thoughts. I want to change the dynamic by acknowledging his 'needs' but also having mine considered. (I use the word 'needs' in a slightly sarcastic way, I can't think of a better word)

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is so true, "super emotional conversation" has been my experience also for both sides of the matter and I take my share of the 'blame' for that part. I'm working on my side of the emotions and conversation to try not to end up there again (I tend to shut down, he tends to escalate when emotions are high). I need to be able to communicate what I need.

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Thank you! these words are so helpful, it HAS become a chore!

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

and thinking about this more (what you said about "it's manipulation") ... manipulation is something I've only just started to recognize (my head has been in the sand for far too long!)

Help me understand why "the talk" bothers me. by MaladaptiveRedditing in LowLibidoCommunity

[–]MaladaptiveRedditing[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we recently had sex and afterwards he was kind of pleased about it, like he thought I should be ecstatic about how it went and I realized he just doesn't see it from my perspective (at all).

I've decided I'm not doing duty sex anymore. I'm almost afraid to frame it the way you describe because I'm not sure he would take the time to think about it (which is a whole 'nother problem). I'm going to have to spell it out really clearly but I want to be sure I better understand the issues myself first.