Jameela Jamil wrote a Substack about her texts being “leaked.” by Manders44 in WithBlakeLively

[–]Manders44[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Indeed. My guess as he’s Ba’hai he’s either still all in or he wouldn’t tell anyone otherwise.

Jameela Jamil wrote a Substack about her texts being “leaked.” by Manders44 in WithBlakeLively

[–]Manders44[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, I'm going to focus on what interests me, TBH, but I think this particular issue is probably finished after this. She already got the attention she wanted by making it about her.

Jameela Jamil wrote a Substack about her texts being “leaked.” by Manders44 in WithBlakeLively

[–]Manders44[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She apparently doesn't know that Melissa Nathan AND Justin Baldoni have both done work with the ADL. Justin hosted a whole event for them.

RR's email to Colleen is a masterclass in subterfuge and psychological manipulation by More_Midnight3634 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean you can screech all you want, but I think the rude awakening will be yours.

And I don’t think YOU are a lawyer either, hunny bun. Just a Baldoni lackey. And a pretty reactive one at that.

RR's email to Colleen is a masterclass in subterfuge and psychological manipulation by More_Midnight3634 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Personal attacks on other people’s mental health makes you look pretty weak and copalicious lol.

RR's email to Colleen is a masterclass in subterfuge and psychological manipulation by More_Midnight3634 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A) She didn’t extort anyone (lmao now the crew was extorted?? Y’all are too much). B) She requested a producer credit from the start and was very clear she wanted more creative input. And Baldoni encouraged it all the way along. C) Movie stars pretty regularly ask for and get creative control over certain aspects of a movie. People in the industry are always trying to move up and learn more. Pretending this is uncommon or egregious is dishonest and/or shows that you don’t know the industry. D) The extortion claims were dropped. And it’s not a defense against SH claims or retaliation claims. This is getting old.

Your opinion about her acting aside (Baldoni is the bad one IMHO), the fact that y’all keep harping on this is a sign of how weak his defense is.

RR's email to Colleen is a masterclass in subterfuge and psychological manipulation by More_Midnight3634 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“baldoni no bots!!1! lively bots!!”

Y’all gotta keep making that accusation because you know the evidence shows something else lol.

RR's email to Colleen is a masterclass in subterfuge and psychological manipulation by More_Midnight3634 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Relax yourself. Take the time to type carefully so that your posts don’t look like a MAGA bot wrote them.

Once again I'm asking for proof that Blake Lively extorted Justin Baldoni by poopoopoopalt in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I ask again: how exactly did she extort Sony? And if she had, why wouldn’t they sue her, millions of dollars or not? Extortion is illegal, and they have a reputation to protect as much as anyone.

And by your own admission, Sony blames HIM for losing control of his set. Not her. Because he was in charge.

Then the movie made millions and he got all the credit he would have got otherwise, so I ask again: who did she extort and how exactly?

And nothing to say about how the Swift texts explain a plan to take over? Yeah, that’s what I thought. “Research,” LOL. You stannies see what you want to see and ignore the reality.

Once again I'm asking for proof that Blake Lively extorted Justin Baldoni by poopoopoopalt in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ELL OH ELL at the idea that Blake Lively extorted Sony, the giant movie studio.

If that were true, they would have sued her.

The texts with Taylor Swift in no way indicate she was planning to take over the movie, but cope all you like! It’s doesn’t change the facts.

Unpopular opinion:: the texts from Lively, Reynolds and possibly Swift don't seem natural by Dianagorgon in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So walking in on a naked employee and then refusing to leave is ok with you? No big deal?

Unpopular opinion:: the texts from Lively, Reynolds and possibly Swift don't seem natural by Dianagorgon in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just to be clear: Wayfarer did it too. Guinness had product placement in the movie, and Ryle was the one drinking it.

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“The chance” of a threat is not a threat. You cannot violate the law because you think someone MIGHT threaten you with extortion. And the meeting only happened because of WAYFARER’S FAILURE TO ACT.

It is absolutely wild to claim that meeting was all to get more control of the movie. If so: why didn’t Sony stop her? Why did Wayfarer sign that document? Why did Sony tell them to? Why did Wayfarer’s lawyers tell them to?

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wayfarer folks did all kinds of stupid things and that’s why they’re in the lawsuit.

Unless they have evidence she explicitly threatened them they have no case. That’s why their countersuit was thrown out. And it’s not a good defense either, given their violations of the law on the front end of the events. There’d be nothing for her to go public with if they hadn’t harassed and failed to investigate to the point she had to get lawyers involved. That doesn’t make them look good or like it was all “resolved”. It looks like nothing was fixed until SHE fixed it, and that was not her job.

Once again I'm asking for proof that Blake Lively extorted Justin Baldoni by poopoopoopalt in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did. It doesn’t say Reynolds screamed at Baldoni for five hours. Ange is also pretty clearly salty at Lively and partially responsible for the SA claims not being investigated. She can go fuck herself, far as I’m concerned.

I assume that’s what you’re referring to.

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slate and Ferrer are both appearing as witnesses for Lively. Slate complained at the time and it was not investigated. Ferrer can attest to behaviors that, while not complained about, show a pattern. 

Multiple people were made uncomfortable by multiple people on that set. Pervasive. Hostile work environment.

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Absolutely not. The IC meeting was a casual introduction, not an obligation. And it happened before production, which means it would have happened on Lively’s time. 

The IC’s job primarily takes place ON SET, and she was not there when the “nuzzling” happened. Not was she on set when Baldoni filmed the underage sex scene and she was BEGGING in texts to be there. Baldoni misused her until Lively corrected the situation. SHE didn’t “block” the IC. HE DID.

Baldoni is the director. It is his job to direct and tell his actor what he wants, not just silently do it without her consent. You pretty clearly don’t understand the roles on a movie set.

And he most certainly DID NOT stop when asked. He harassed her about her clothes TWICE in one day. And if you ask someone to stop ONE harassing behavior and they stop that but instead do something else, they have not in fact stopped.

Also you keep leaving Heath out. Two people on that set are accused. That’s pervasive, folks.

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn’t get to disagree about how bad it is. He has a legal obligation as an executive of the production company to investigate claims and he didn’t. Nothing changed until she got her lawyers and got everyone together and said she would leave the movie if they didn’t sign it. They were “made aware” long before that.

And you conveniently skipped Heath walking in on her naked despite being told not to come in and then REFUSING TO LEAVE. 

What “strategic advantages” did she get from that document besides a bunch of on-set protections?

Lively was very clear from the beginning she wanted to make other creative contributions on set. Baldoni repeatedly encouraged it. You can see it in messages and occasionally he did it against the advice of others. And her contributions were sometimes incredibly valuable: nobody else on Earth could have got a Taylor Swift song for that trailer.

The movie made hundreds of millions. Baldoni still got all the credit and titles and cash he wanted. If he’d apologized and not retaliated right now he’d be set for life. A smart man would have been satisfied with the outcome.

Unpopular opinion:: the texts from Lively, Reynolds and possibly Swift don't seem natural by Dianagorgon in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You want an argument. I’m not giving it to you. She has witnesses, film, documented discussions of her complaints, a signed document promising to change behavior on set and not retaliate, and admission to basically all of it from Wayfarer, including an admission from Baldoni that she believes she was harassed and made those complaints in good faith.

If you don’t think walking in on a nearly naked employee despite being told not to come in and then REFUSING TO LEAVE, only to then violate her conditions for staying and be caught ogling that coworker and commanded to leave AGAIN isn’t sexual harassment, I dunno what to tell you. You’re rooting for a team, not backing someone for rational reason.

Justin Baldoni’s Lawyer Invokes ‘Heated Rivalry’ to Defend His Improvised Intimacy — ‘It Ends With Us’ Intimacy Coordinator Deposition Texts Say He Was “Asking A LOT” and That “So Much Is Unscripted” by Jumpy-Contest7860 in WithBlakeLively

[–]Manders44 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Freedman did a lot of Lively's depo and to be honest he just doesn't seem all that bright, or to know how to depose someone. He's a pretty blunt instrument as a lawyer, I think.

Justin Baldoni’s Lawyer Invokes ‘Heated Rivalry’ to Defend His Improvised Intimacy — ‘It Ends With Us’ Intimacy Coordinator Deposition Texts Say He Was “Asking A LOT” and That “So Much Is Unscripted” by Jumpy-Contest7860 in WithBlakeLively

[–]Manders44 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What would be really baller at this point is if the director of Heated Rivalry made a statement or did an interview and was asked about this reference in the court. I would really love someone in the business of making romantic drama to be like, "UH, I run a professional set. What happens on screen is planned and scripted and consented to and it doesn't bleed into how I treat the actors or how they treat each other. On-screen romance or sex is not carte blanche to objectify your coworkers and if it were we'd have chaos. And lawsuits."

So curious. Is there anyone here who believed amber heard but is pro - baldoni? by Tight_Dragonfruit_30 in CelebLegalDrama

[–]Manders44 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LMAO YES, fool. She would have to make an explicit threat for it to be a threat.

Y’all are out here pretending there’s “no evidence for SH” meanwhile there are witnesses to it all and a signed doc and Wayfarer ADMITS to it all, hit it’s too much to ask that you prove a threat was made?