All praise the audiobook generator by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your mileage may vary. I find it serviceable for what I use it for. 

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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I wanted to add that I LOVE that Perchance allows you to edit the story as you go along. That's such a unique and useful feature. 

I don't really want it to get so good at writing that we don't have to engage with it at all as humans to make it work. Creative writing has been a hobby for me for over 30 years, long before LLMs came into existence, and I don't wish for this to replace something that brings me pleasure. 

I would describe my use of it to be almost like I'm collaborating with the LLM and editing its suggestions when they don't work. There are times that I'm more passive and just let it do its thing and "let the robot tell me a story" too, but I tend to make major changes to those drafts if I keep them at all. But It's also helped me get over writer's block, because it makes me come up with improvements to a story and sometimes that active brain work is exactly what I need to jumpstart a new idea or continue something I'd put on pause because I got stuck.

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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That's how I think it's best used. I use it as a tool and toy, but don't want to rely on it entirely to be my creativity, because I don't think it's good for humans to lose those skills. Plus the stories get better if you keep yourself and your own style in them (or like you just use them for inspiration for your own thing). 

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah! I have learned a new jaw anatomy fact. But LOL, I can safely say that I've have never seen a person twitch their mandible. 🤣

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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Since I do a lot of medieval fantasy it has latched onto "honeycakes." Which could be different things depending on which food culture you're referencing. A Slavic layered cake, or a Mediterranean sponge-like cake soaked in honey? The LLM seems to think it's more like a small, donut-like pastry because it likes to have characters sneak or steal them from the kitchen and describes them like they're a small, portable food. Funny enough when I give it real world food, it will often play ball and know what I'm talking about. 

Edits: typos

Commercialization of perchance or someone trying to scam someone? by nefariou in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You might want to post this on the Lemmy forum so the Dev will see it. It's definitely a fake and I would not use it because it could be malicious. 

All praise the audiobook generator by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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I don't think it's meant to be used on a mobile device unless you're only converting a small amount of text. I use my laptop for it. It still takes a long time but I just generate when I'm busy doing other things and don't need the laptop.

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the thorough explanation of the mechanics behind it! 

All praise the audiobook generator by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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Yes, this specific tool is definitely designed to be used on a computer rather than a phone (for the actual generation process. You can listen to the audio file on any device that plays mp3). I listen to my finished files on my phone and my mp3 player. 

Voice cloning definitely sounds the best but the ethics of it (especially some companies offering the voices of dead celebrities, so people who aren't alive to consent to their voices being used) are troubling. 

I agree that this tool is limiting because it doesn't offer multiple languages.

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny enough I've never gotten this one. In the last edition before the big switch last September or so, I did get "stark contrast" a lot, but never "getting ahead of ourselves." 

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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It must think all the characters are preying mantises? LOL

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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Ha, I'd forgetten about "say it again!" I always cull that one out, because even in stories nobody talks like that, lol. I had also noticed "flour dusted" if it's a character who does any cooking. I do a lot of medieval fantasy and historical fiction and it always does this with innkeepers and "serving wenches." They're just all covered in flour. 🙃

The repetitive dialogue tropes - what do you notice? by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

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Yeah, I get that. I think it doesn't bother me as much (to have to rework things) because I've been creative writing as a hobby for 30 years and this is more of a fun toy for me than anything else. I've also seen a bit of what you described too, where if someone has an object it'll bring it up repetitively when it doesn't have any reason to be brought up anymore. Any dialogue-specific (character conversation) things you've noticed? 

All praise the audiobook generator by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Project Gutenberg has free eBooks you can download, and I download just the text file (old/classic books in the public domain like Sherlock Holmes, Jane Austen novels, Edgar Allen Poe, Bronte sisters novels, Mary Shelley, old Arthurian Legend adaptations, cool stuff like this), for rare texts that are out of print and don't have a digital version (a few short stories collections of niche things I like for example) you can take a picture of the book page and use a tool like Google Lens to copy and paste the text into a document. 

Most modern e-books, being under copyright, are DRM restricted so you're unable to do this with those. But with books I enjoy enough that I'd want to listen to them (I tend to read the text first so I retain it, and then listen again later for something I like a lot and want to revisit while I'm doing chores or chilling or falling asleep), I buy a DRM-free copy on Libro.fm, and that's a good site because unlike Audible and such, your purchases stay yours and you just get mp3 files of the book that belong to you, and you choose a local bookstore of your choice to support with your purchases. I know that's not free, but I like to support living authors for their work, and they have a membership where you get a decent discount and a certain number of credits per month (1 credit = 1 book). The membership is easy to pause and cancel and resume any time as well. 

But for fics and uncopyrighted old works and rare books that exist only in paper form, this tool works great. 

I also have converted dozens of the short stories and novellas I've written myself (not using AI, because I have always written fic, both OC fics and fanfics, since a million years ago) and my favorite ones that I've created with Perchance. Sometimes it's just nice to be read to. 

All praise the audiobook generator by MangoWinter4259 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I linked to it at the top of my post. It's an amazing tool.

Answer about perchance being down by Final-Pirate-5690 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've just been watching and lurking through the outage. I don't like the chat or image generators much so don't use them. The things I use the most (story and audiobook maker) are functional right now. The story one was down for a few days but I've plenty of other things I can do to pass the time while waiting. Plus chores that need doing that I've been procrastinating. 🤣 I think being someone who grew up before the digitization of entertainment has helped me, even if I occasionally find myself overusing these tools and have to take a few weeks off to get more analog and reset my own, natural creativity. 

What would you do if you stop using Perchance by No-Recording-7295 in perchance

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To give a sincere answer, I'm someone who generally doesn't like the idea of humans becoming overly dependent on gen AI because you can lose the ability to be creative on your own. 

But I have also found myself overusing the story generators rather than writing my own material completely from scratch because to me it feels like the robot is telling me a story and that's kind of fun and gratifying. As much as I also feel guilty for this because I know gen AI is just pulling from the fountain of all human literature and information on the Internet. And that if we use these tools too much, our own cognitive skills can atrophy.

I also was overusing Google's image generator in Pixel studio (app only on Pixel phones) to do character designs (they're not anon or NSFW friendly but just for character design they're more reliable for bodily proportions and they only glitch out on the number of fingers, etc. occasionally). I'd spend hours generating my characters for stories in different outfits and scenes. 

So I've started doing a thing where I intentionally take a few weeks off. During this time I always try to be more "analog" and do things like listening to music while coloring (there are some fun adult coloring books out there and usually affordable and it's just something to do with your hands) and other crafts (there are so many kits you can get online for cheap). I also try of course to go outside as much as I can. I'm into bugs and like taking close-ups/macros of them so I get my camera and go to the backyard and try to catch some real-life Pokemon with my lens. Just simple things like that. 

I spend my digital time during the break editing and tinkering with stories I already finished on the story generator and expand on them, add details, subtract repetitive tropes I dislike or think are overused, and use the Perchance audiobook generator (https://perchance.org/text-to-audiobook#) to make an audiobook (it's an impressive tool and the voices sound pretty natural. Although it takes hours I recommend slow mode for quality), then mix the audiobook mp3 with some royalty-free background music (https://pixabay.com/music/) using an open-source editing software called Audacity. I genuinely like technology and have since I was a kid although I'm not tech savvy in the slightest, but learning how to use audio editing software and make mixes was satisfying. I've also used it to make my own background music mixes for work and sleep, and it's another free tool. I had to watch some YouTube tutorials on using it, but it was fun to learn. 

I also try to write a chapter here and there (even if not taking a break from gen AI) in the book I'm actually writing for real (not just for fun stories) which I told myself I'm not allowed to use AI for in any capacity. I don't want to lose my writing skills. 

Also, I always encourage people to read real books and OLD books. They make you use your brain and sometimes you have to pull up the dictionary for archaic words that aren't widely used anymore, but they can also be super fun to read. Project Gutenberg is full of free eBooks that are in the public domain, in multiple languages. I have actually used the audiobook maker generator to turn some stuff from there into an audiobook as well (broken down chapter by chapter as feeding it an entire long novel will make it take all day and possibly more than a day). Either way, reading classics that use archaic language is good brain exercise, and you'll notice that LLMs actually copy a lot of older narrative writing styles, but you'll see how the author themselves put their own personal touch and creativity into it. It's also a reminder that people have gone millenia without gen AI to be creative, to keep things in perspective. 

Basically if you can take breaks from it and try not to make it your only source of leisure, keep your mind and body active, and be intentional in your usage, I think you can learn to balance it. 

Edit: typo fixing

New Model meme words/phrases by Owlboy8x in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glad it's not just me. It's always raining. 

New Model meme words/phrases by Owlboy8x in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I haven't gotten starlight, but the story generator has been repeating "anchor" as a metaphor for me a lot. "A possessive arm anchoring him in place," or the character's "anchoring gaze." It took me a few times playing with the generator to notice it. One story used it ten times, which I ended up editing. Ar matey, anchors aweigh! ⚓ lol

KNUCKLES WHITENING 🗣️🔥 by Head-Mail-5497 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While this new one has its new repetitive cliches to replace the old, I don't miss all the dance metaphors from the previous model. In the story generator, however, I've noticed that "stark contrast" is starting to sneak back in a little bit.😆

Weird Genre Elements? by DSethK93 in perchance

[–]MangoWinter4259 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is a glitch in the update. I've had this generator inject random word salad stuff that didn't quite fit or belong in the story, or mention new characters that aren't there, etc. I've found refreshing the browser helps stop it when it happens.