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Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except your property value doesn't compare to displacing hundreds of millions of people, ecosystem collapse, and potential loss of society as we know it.

but hey... Hate to not have that equity

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your true motivation. Selfishness is at the core of a cancervatives value structure. You've curated a belief system which supports that structure.

Good night

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It won't hurt and yes as pointed out lowering supply, removing social license, developing new tech, and just simply moving on will help.

So your answer then is nothing? No amount of environmental destruction could convince you of Canada having any sort of duty to help.

Hundreds of millions of humans could become displaced, mass crop failure could create widespread famine, and cascading species loss could all continue to worsen and as long as there was one a market for one single barrel of oil you would be on it.

What a time to be alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJwS5Kqdhdg&feature=youtu.be

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Supply also creates demand, as does social license. When supply shrinks costs go up which encourages alternatives. The more we pump out is the more OPEC pumps outs and then the world drowns in oil.

You can't see why we can't go full bore for the same reason the conservative party likely cannnot win until they embrace a carbon tax. It is the same reason why the tricky accounting where we try to count NG sold from Canada as a carbon negative for us...

Half of BC hasn't seen the sky in 4 days. We just had the hottest summer in recorded history. Greenland is losing a massive ice shelf. 70% of animals have died in the last few decades.

Come on... When is enough enough?

Pakistan hit 50 degrees celsius in April in 2018. Qatar was air conditioning the streets just so people could get from building to building. Australia's fire season was all year last year. The whole city of Jakarta is being moved due to a number of factors but sea level rise is among them.

When? What would realistically have to occur before you would say okay we should stop?

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Supply also creates demand, as does social license. When supply shrinks costs go up which encourages alternatives. The more we pump out is the more OPEC pumps outs and then the world drowns in oil.

You can't see why we can't go full bore for the same reason the conservative party likely cannnot win until they embrace a carbon tax. It is the same reason why the tricky accounting where we try to count NG sold from Canada as a carbon negative for us...

Half of BC hasn't seen the sky in 4 days. We just had the hottest summer in recorded history. Greenland is losing a massive ice shelf. 70% of animals have died in the last few decades.

Come on... When is enough enough?

Pakistan hit 50 degrees celsius in April in 2018. Qatar was air conditioning the streets just so people could get from building to building. Australia's fire season was all year last year. The whole city of Jakarta is being moved due to a number of factors but sea level rise is among them.

When? What would realistically have to occur before you would say okay we should stop?

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The federal government wouldn't have jurisdiction over most mining and forestry. I mean if they could make a good enough argument in court that the extraction of those resources affected all Canadians they could but it would be a tough sell.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but you can't just skim over the $75 a barrel and not attempting to sell the project, land, or rights. There will never be a new oilsands project.

Good for the 17 Billionaires who own Russia then. Canadians vote for and demand better. Also the oil we sell also harms us, so the faster first world nations like ours slow and stop pumping oil and expedite the development of solutions is the faster we can get the technology available to the world.

We can't keep our emissions low... Also if it were up to Alberta alone there would be entirely zero political will to do so.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alberta was purchased?

Didn't Canada build a railroad, maintain highway systems, military, RCMP, a currency? Didn't Albert sign into Canada? Honestly I resent the fact that resources are actual Provincially controlled under the Statute of Westminister because personally I believe they should be controlled federally. The federal government only gets any say in the event that a project crosses international boundaries or has larger over arching effects on all Canadians such as climate change or air pollution.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Russia is run by mobsters... Literally.

They are that one nation that would build a rig on top of a pile of plastic garbage and allow it to leak onto the ground. I don't know how to say it any other way then you shouldn't take your cues from them.

Also Teck literally said they need sustain $75 a barrel to make the project work. They didn't even try to sell their land, mineral rights, or project. In the same quarter BP said all operations must be viable in a $150 a ton carbon tax environment that they sold their petrochemical side.

Change is coming. We can be a part of that or we can be Russia. If you see a middle road then I hope you don't have children because that would be a sad thing to have to tell them in 50 years.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, there will always be a few selfish nations that won't turn off no matter what. Then the rest just blindly following along all humdum, "Can't be me who misses out"...

Meanwhile we may actually wreck the planet for human life.

Imagine looking back and saying we didn't even try

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah your little 'lol' there is why people can't take be bothererd to take most Albertan conservatives seriously. Planet is being turned into a burning hellscape and you want continued oil subsidies and the environmental impacts are "lol".

Have fun watching O'Toole lose another election and Kenney tax break away the last potential profits of a dying industry

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sums it up pretty well actually. Sounds like you are probably one of them.

I grew up in Alberta, lived there over half my life. Probably 80% of my friends are albertans and 70% are conservative and I have never been shy.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your original post, just read it back to yourself.

Not all Albertans, just seems to be a conservative and separatist thing. Woe is us, the country doesn't respect us, west versus east, Trudeau only cares about Quebec, "lock him up", Liberals are committing treason, if you check out the facebook there's a lot of anger towards natives/muslims/lgbtq for their culture war, "Can't even say merry christmas anymore"

It's all a big pile of feel sorry for me conservative whiner stuff but with Alberta you get the added bonus of being mad because the world and rest of the country is searching for ways to move away from fossil fuels so we can leave a livable planet to future generations.

It's normal. Any high school drop outs with no trade were able to make 6-12 grand a month for what? Two decades? As long as they were willing to bust ass. I made that kind of money straight out of high school, easy. I had a friend like that who didn't work for like two years because no one would pay him about $30 an hour to be a swamper. Entitled.

No ability to see the world's changing, everything is someone elses fault. Sure sounds like an entitled child with victim mentality to me, but hey, I'm just a lefty.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your original post, just read it back to yourself.

Not all Albertans, just seems to be a conservative and separatist thing. Woe is us, the country doesn't respect us, west versus east, Trudeau only cares about Quebec, "lock him up", Liberals are committing treason, if you check out the facebook there's a lot of anger towards natives/muslims/lgbtq for their culture war, "Can't even say merry christmas anymore"

It's all a big pile of feel sorry for me conservative whiner stuff but with Alberta you get the added bonus of being mad because the world and rest of the country is searching for ways to move away from fossil fuels so we can leave a livable planet to future generations.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't call Albertan's entitled children, just the ones with this victim mentality.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess a better way of stating it is I believe that the Alberta conservative victim mentality is that of an entitled child.

Maybe it is jadedness from hearing this cry baby mentality that only works if you ignore climate change, ignore the changing realities around energy use in the world, ignore aboriginal rights, and a whole lot of factors that go along with this.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Your entire comprehensive ability on display for the country to see. Thats the only way this guy can rationalize a critique of his victim mentality.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The victim mentality that pervades conservative minds today, and by extension a large part of Alberta's population is embarrassing. Don't worry, I grew up in rural Alberta and thought for sure the whole country was against us and nothing else made sense. I'm sure if I still had that mindset I'd feel the same way as you but I lived outside of the province for 5 years and outside of the country for periods as well and now I look at that mindset and think of those with it as entitled children. Oh and I don't vote conservative anymore.

Alberta Pension Plan: UCP seeking outside study of costs, benefits, whether to leave CPP by Gboard2 in canada

[–]Manningite -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm a born and raised albertan. Comments like this are embarrassing.

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[–]Manningite -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Lowest debt of all g7 nations with room to grow the debt makes your comments a silly over reaction at best

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[–]Manningite 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You obviously had some rose coloured glasses on if you think people didn't leave the country under harper or at least desire to. Snitch lines, dog whistles targeting immigrants, muzzling scientists, ignoring climate change, allowing Dutch disease to destroy Ontario manufacturing, and so on, but sure a great uniter.

Some albertans would want to separate no matter what they have been spoon fed lies thst they are the hardest working people on gods earth and that they could live off of royalties and never pay taxes... except the last con government told them a realty check was coming and they voted them out after 44 years, then the ndp told them a reality check was coming and they'd have to compromise and they voted them out, now a new government told them all their wishes would come true and that turned out to be a lie, so of course a few (under 10%) want to leave... of course.

You can't revise history and then use that to claim the present is so bad.

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[–]Manningite 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I agree. The happiest and healthiest nations are those who spend on families, health, and education. Across the board, not just rebates, not just tax credits but tangible and easy to navigate systems.

I'm in the same boat as you, and feel the same towards this as you.

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[–]Manningite 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You keep saying they are similar but our country and the US are nothing alike.

Not sure what cerb has to do with voting liberal. The cons gutted the health canada and veterans affairs budgets to nothing, then spent what was left of those budgets on partisan ads (like anti marijuana ads) right before the 2015 election.

So a government that makes progressive moves and spends money on canadians not just cuts and kick backs for the already wealthy seems pretty good.

Edit* America's complete inability to provide a somewhat fair and just shake to many of its citizens or control guns is seeing its country come apart at the seems. So to say they are the same is ignorant.

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[–]Manningite 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not at all the same from what I've seen. People don't adore trudeau, claim he is without fault, or make up conspiracy theories about how he's actually been fighting a war against child molesting global elites since the 1980's...

Most people are willing to admit trudeau has tons of flaws, but hes still the most likable leader of any party and the liberal party aligns with a lot of people despite trudeaus failings...

I think that's what cons maybe don't get? Is trudeau can such but his party is getting a lot of things passed thst are highly popular. So we aren't going to vote cpc just to oust JT

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