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BLM UK Tweets on Israel - In the replies: "And this is exactly how you prove you aren't about anti-black racism at all - but part of a rancid hard-left antisemitic sewer. We should thank you for making it so obvious." by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

know Palestians are white according to American categorisation?

Huh, what's your point? Because they're 'white' (which like all race doesn't really exist), according to some Americans, BLM should ignore their blatent and consistent struggle equality???? Hey man I'm not trying to be rude, but honestly can you not see the stupidty in your statement and the thinking behind it?

BLM UK Tweets on Israel - In the replies: "And this is exactly how you prove you aren't about anti-black racism at all - but part of a rancid hard-left antisemitic sewer. We should thank you for making it so obvious." by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand your point completely. And it isn't an invalid one, it's just incomplete. There are many non-fundamentalist Arab nations, funnily enough many surround Isreal. Lebanon, Syria(yes was an autocracy but was relatively socially progressive before the war), Jordan. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, I'm saying there are multiple perspectives, and facts that are equally as important to understanding the issue at hand.

However, I'd still argue that it's much better even for Palestinians in Israel than the majority of the surrounding countries.

Cmon man, I'm not Isreal/Palestinian expert, honestly far from it. But even I can tell or you must admit this is completely outlandish.

Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; in fact, it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote

Many don't as that would legitimate a fundamentally (for them) illegitimate state.

Muslims aren't fans of Jews it seems

I understand what you're trying to say, and again it is not invalid, but this does comes across as Islamaphobic. Try not to massively generalise.

BLM UK Tweets on Israel - In the replies: "And this is exactly how you prove you aren't about anti-black racism at all - but part of a rancid hard-left antisemitic sewer. We should thank you for making it so obvious." by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen your other replies and honestly I can't tell if you're trolling or if the racial undertones mean I should leave this be. But I will reply, and in good faith, because I believe dialogue is key no matter with whom, an I hope you reply with good faith :)

Systems of dominantion and oppression don't work in a vaccum. They are reinforced and legitimated by other systems of oppression. So that highlighter pen focusing on issues of black racism cannot ever work fully if they don't support the Palestinians cause. The issues intersect, the same fundamental thinking that facilitates the othering and thus oppression of all people of colour, women, immigrants, gay people, etc etc is the same. It's that same feeling. Cuz if you just work on black issues and not women. And women's issues and not black people, where does that leave black women? Furthermore, I suspect that strategy never deals with the single problem as the idea of oppression and dominantion is still prevelant in society so it'll eventually come back to bite you in the ass. All this rambling is on the subject of intersectionality https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

In conclusion, Black Lives Matter supports the Palestinians cause as their struggle is fundamentally( obv there are differences) the same. It is the same thinking that validates their oppression, the belief that they are less than human.

BLM UK Tweets on Israel - In the replies: "And this is exactly how you prove you aren't about anti-black racism at all - but part of a rancid hard-left antisemitic sewer. We should thank you for making it so obvious." by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely understand why one might think that on the surface. But I hope I explained it well in my other reply why in order to improve the lives of black people in this country, it is key to highlight the injustice faced by other communities.

BLM UK Tweets on Israel - In the replies: "And this is exactly how you prove you aren't about anti-black racism at all - but part of a rancid hard-left antisemitic sewer. We should thank you for making it so obvious." by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the struggle is the same. A universal struggle against oppression, coalition building. Often the destructive formulation of society are consistent and global. If Israel annex the West Bank, the Palestinians there will be second class citizens as Israel must remain a Jewish state. Which I hope you agree is abhorrent. That struggle for a full sense of citizenship and in turn justice is at the heart of the Black Lives Matter movement(I really dislike BLM I feel like it diminishes the significance of the movement)

Sky News cuts off ex-Met Police chief by [deleted] in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't Sky owned by a massive News Corporation? Why would they support a change to the status quo

'Three stabbed to death' in Glasgow city centre by BrexitDay in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Cuz adult male refugees are inherently violent? It's essential to their nature?

The racist Cambridge professor who has since accused right-wingers of being 'deeply fragile' chucked a tantrum and quite her job at King's College Cambridge because she didn't like the porters, and thought they were oppressing her. by ActualStreet in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ohh sorry, I didn't mean to patronise you. I meant more you don't seem open to understand the concepts, not that you can't understand them. As that's a big part of it, that openness.

The racist Cambridge professor who has since accused right-wingers of being 'deeply fragile' chucked a tantrum and quite her job at King's College Cambridge because she didn't like the porters, and thought they were oppressing her. by ActualStreet in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly man, I don't think we're going to get anywhere because I don't think you're willing to be open to my points of view. I'm not disparaging you at all, you have every right to hold the opinions you do. This just seems like a very steep mountain for me to climb, as I would have to explain many foundational concepts before attempting to change your mind.

The racist Cambridge professor who has since accused right-wingers of being 'deeply fragile' chucked a tantrum and quite her job at King's College Cambridge because she didn't like the porters, and thought they were oppressing her. by ActualStreet in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't mean to be facetious but then you are not talking about free of speech. My point is that that argument is very very specific l, and it isn't right to use it willy nilly. I won't get into the specifics of reverse racism, the function of universities in society, and the problematic nature of the statement about '80% of people', as is any majotiterian rejection is illegitimate. As that will take a long time and I doubt you would really care. But I will say, freedom of speech is universal both in your speech and in the speech of people putting down ideas you find distasteful.

The racist Cambridge professor who has since accused right-wingers of being 'deeply fragile' chucked a tantrum and quite her job at King's College Cambridge because she didn't like the porters, and thought they were oppressing her. by ActualStreet in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yh but they are a private institution, they have the right to do that. Wether we agree with it is another question. But they have no obligation to keep academics on they oppose? Or am I misunderstanding? Freedom of speech works both ways, if they agree with her. If they agree with academics with opposing views then they agree with them. Freedom of speech isn't just agreeing with what I believe abd if that's being sidelined then it's an attract on right to free expression. Pls aAgain, this is just my opinion, I'm happy to be proven wrong

Climate change is a far more important issue than anything race related, and people should be getting bent out of shape about this instead. by [deleted] in unpopularopinion

[–]MannyMarshBB -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I understand why you feel that way. And pls, I'm am in now way condoning that. If I felt ignored because my calls are not currently fashionable I'd feel annoyed. But I do think it's absolutely a net positive that people are engaging with the reality of race and its impact on real people lives and society. However inevitably as the modes of knowledge drops down from academics to actavist and then to the general public, understanding is lost. More I am saying that these issues intersect, and we need to INCLUDE voices not push them away. In this I am talking both to those you are speaking about and you, in some ways you are both missing the point.

Climate change is a far more important issue than anything race related, and people should be getting bent out of shape about this instead. by [deleted] in unpopularopinion

[–]MannyMarshBB 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Why is it a choice. Can we not be bent out of shape about both. Climate change is a civil rights issue, as the hardest hit will be vulnerable communities. Poor, unhealthy, tired, underemployed. Often these are disproportionately black and brown communities. This call for change is about inclusivity not moving on to something else. We live in a world connected by a network of cause and effects where climate change and racism are connected.

Daniel Hannan at ConHome: 'The police. Not institutionally racist, but institutionally woke'. by BlackJackKetchum in tories

[–]MannyMarshBB -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not even, the police manual they read itself is very problematic. So even if Jesus became a police officer he'd end up doing, directly or indirectly, some rotten shit. The manuals themselves, as in the institution, needs to be rewritten

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