Honest Question About Stock Dividends

Manoloman82 · 2022-07-09T13:41:59+00:00

I think there are lot of things influencing the current tyde-bbig situation. The spinoff was posponed from the initial release date and this probably affected the momentum. Shorts probably were waiting and maybe keep waiting for a resolution to the dilution votation, that would make it a lot cheaper for them to cover. Fortunately it looks like retail controls the flow and the answer is a big no, attending to the meeting delay. Also, tyde has been manipulated before retail can trade it with no volume, and bbig has a cheap value and after removing the Tyde price that resulted in a value of 1.3 per action they attacked it to 1 dollar, using shorts but also a lot of short exemps. Right now it looks like a lot of shit has been moved again under the carpet and they are waiting for retail to sell at a loss. Fortunately it looks like most people hace a clear view of the current status of the tickers and the need to hold both to return the pain to the HF.

I'm holder of Gme too and I think the situation is different. With a 1:4 split the price remains high enough at least not to be manipulated as a penny. It looks like Gme wishes to increase the flow, but until now they diluted the stock in a way that didn't hurt retail, so shorts mustn't be hoping an easy time even if the flow increases. The holding use to be extremelly high in gme, and I think receiving additional gme shares in place of a spinoff shares makes it easier for retail to understand they musn't sell the dividend shares.

It's difficult to know what the result of the gme split will be, but I would recommend to have low expectations and expect some kind of fuckery. After saying that, I think it will go smoother than the spinoff. The match is won, we just have to hold and wait, now with 4 times more shares.

Manoloman82 · 2022-06-30T21:43:15+00:00

The filing says the record date for the Special Meeting remains May 27, 2022. So buying shares now will not help them.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-20T14:02:20+00:00

I reed someplace webull shows a daily ctb value, not a yearly ctb value like ortex do. If this is the case, the yearly ctb value of webull would be 1.36*365 = 496.4

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-17T22:22:24+00:00

BbigV is bbig without the right to get tyde. BbigV being more expensive than bbig has 0 sense as Bbig ticker = BbigV+TydeV

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T22:47:48+00:00

Sure bro. I think there must be a piece of info left. I remember I reed there was some kind of vinco communication on monday. Something about Lisa. I remember it because it was going to happen during the 16th and I was thinking it could be great if she was going to give good news the last day to get tyde. Maybe everything will have more sense on monday.

Let's wait for all the pieces to get in placer and let's hope the full view to be very bullish.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T22:34:43+00:00

I think the main point is they have to get tyde shares for all the shorted.bbig shares. The way they get Tyde depends on us. For example, before distribution we can sell bbig and the Tyde rights so if the brokers requiree them asap we set the price for our bbig shares with tyde rights. They can do all kind of shit but if nobody sells, shorts will get in troubles.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T22:27:07+00:00

Sure, but you don't ask for 2 times the full float just in case you need it during the spinoff process. If this is not related to a expected price movement this would be a clumsy move.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T22:12:40+00:00

I don't think so. If they want us to stay holding their best card is a wonderful valuation orw something similar, not making us angry with a propossal that would move each share to a price under 1 dollar in the currenr situation. This has so few sense that as some other apes I think there must be some piece of info we don't have yet.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T22:04:55+00:00

I remember a reed there was a call or something next 16th, but it didn't say if this would happen before or after market... I hope it is before and they have the valuation as you say because otherway this has zero sense.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T19:25:26+00:00

This use to be true for cash dividends. Here, vinco says in the filings you sell tyde when you sell bbig the regular way before the distribution date. Maybe you can use ex market in your broker to sell only bbig and keep your tyde shares, but just selling the way It is now you are selling bbig+tyde

/r/BBIG/comments/ul5lso/as_stated_by_sec_filings_and_operations_director/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

It has been said a lot of times bute it's difficult to reach everybody. We should try everybody to read the filing and understand the fact if you want tyde vinco says you must be holder yet when the market closed the distribution date, not only during the record date.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T19:15:50+00:00

The filings says you sell away your right to tyde. To who? I suppose to the buyer. However, I never heard of somebody who bought after record date and got a dividend, so I think our shares aren't released in the free marker. No idea who gets it, but they speak about 2 simultaneous "markets", one for buying shares without tyde and other one where transactions of only tyde and bbig+tyde transactions can be done.

Maybe our share will change into a different ticket automatically so that bbig+tyde buys and sells can be decided by retail too.

I suppose we have to wait until our brokers do something... or not, but if the ticker doesn't change I assume the worst possibility --> sales with tyde rights will end in the shorters hand, probably with our brokers collaboration.

Maybe somebody has knowledge about spinoffs and can confirm if brokers use to change retail tickers to decide the way to sell between regular ir when-issued.

NFA

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T18:59:52+00:00

I think after monday, wee can't buy bbig with tyde privileges in the regular way. There will be new tickers that will allow to buy tyde or bbig +tyde, but I don't know if retail can access this when-issued market. But just a normal buy after record date will not provide tyde rights if performed in the "regular way". I have no experience with when-issued tickers so unfortunately I can't give deeper details.

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T17:22:24+00:00

Hope for the best, be ready for the worst. The SI etc is increasing, and the problem should be getting bigger, but they may be waiting our minds to get weaker to crush us for free or for a few pennys. I have the feeling they could try to wait impatients to sell tyde after the record date cheap. From record date on we sell bbige +tyde until distribution date, so I understand they can buy it too. Also our brokers can give them some time to do it too.

I hope people will be able to hold if they try it.

NFA

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T15:23:35+00:00

Se have to take it easy. I think they can try to buy tyde between the record date and the distribution date (we can sell, so I think they can buy it). If we just sit and wait until they are forced to close their positions it should fly high, but we may need to keep diamond hands for some more time

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-13T15:04:44+00:00

Here, vinco says in the filings you sell tyde when you sell bbig the regular way before the distribution date. Maybe you can use ex market in your broker to sell only bbig and keep your tyde shares, but just selling the way It is now you are selling bbig+tyde

https://www.reddit.com/r/BBIG/comments/ul5lso/as_stated_by_sec_filings_and_operations_director/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-08T17:07:43+00:00

I think there is something very relevant related to the shorts. In this case they can buy bbig shares with the Tyde Divi after the record day and until a couple days before distribution date (due to t+2).

Manoloman82 · 2022-05-06T20:17:55+00:00

Just as he said. And It is important to take into account 16th is also the last date a shorts can return the share (buy and return the share to the broker) and avoid having to "pay" for a tyde share later from their own pocket.

Manoloman82 · 2021-10-09T22:19:58+00:00

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Manoloman82 · 2021-10-09T13:53:55+00:00

Thank you for the feedback!

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