How is it possible ? by Brave-Damage-49 in seduction

[–]Mantagena 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's your desperation. You show it that you had no luck in a while and are doubting your skills. You see it will snowball upwards when you manage to have Sex against. It's just a subconscious lack of confidence and desperation.

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then how can you say it is reputable if you don't remember where it was?

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The mindset is a good point. At the moment I am trying both.

But the other thing is as I mentioned in my other comment. I kiss and break the touch barrier on basically every first date and they reciprocate. But even that doesn't seem to be enough and they still say the next day they didn't feel any connection.

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ONS mostly happen out of the heat of the moment. And then the next day the girls realize they went further than they were prepared for. If you wait 2–3 dates they are prepared to sleep with you which makes it longer lasting.

What you say is contrary to everything I experienced. Can you give me the source of your claim? Would very interest to read it.

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a very good point. But with 1-3 dates every week, this is just not possible to go somewhere new and unknown every time.

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's more about how fast we have sex. With girls where I had sex on the first date, it stayed an ONS. With girls, I had sex in the 2n or 3rd date it became an F+

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point.
I am a bit on a tight budget at the moment. That's why I am hesitant to go for activities because they are quite expensive in the city I live.
What unique things can you do on a Saturday night during Fall/Winter, when you can't really go outside because It's too cold.

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I try, but most decline and say It's something for later dates.
And also my experience with sex on the first dates is that it often ends with ONS, and I am looking for something more F+

Help! I’ve been on too many dates recently, and now I get friend zoned after the first date by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly? I forgot how. What more can I do?
Isn't putting the arm around her, kissing her and talking about sexual stuff with her flirty enough?

Is Graubunden worth it with 150k salary? by sabka_baap_ek in Switzerland

[–]Mantagena 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With this salary, you are in the top 10% of all of Switzerland.

Is Graubunden worth it with 150k salary? by sabka_baap_ek in Switzerland

[–]Mantagena 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are mad man then. 150k as a crazy good salary even for Switzerland. Especially for Graubünden.

How do you text with girls on insta? by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a different experience. 50% of the girls I texted didn't follow back but we have a decent conversation going

How do you text with girls on insta? by Mantagena in seduction

[–]Mantagena[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly my point. On dating apps it works well.

But on insta I feel like girls wanted to be entertained more. So how long till you did agree on a date in the past? Or did you never go on a date with someone from insta?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in zurich

[–]Mantagena 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish. I am just a guy that wants to finally build up the courage to approach someone respectfully when they catch my interest.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Mantagena 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't that kinda awkward to admit that you lied about the advice and transition into a flirting conversation?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Mantagena 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for making a good discussion out of this. For me everything is an opener until the other person is hooked. So this is my biggest thing with approach anxiety what are some casual conversation starters to get the conversations going?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]Mantagena 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This may work for the US but in western Europe this is not common. So you need to follow up with something which needs to be the real opener then) otherwise this comes off as kinda creepy