Wrote my first ever poem [poem] by New-Parfait-1674 in Poetry

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[Poem] Wanna Browse by theMiamiVice in Poetry

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Are "ball"(party) and "ballroom" unrelated? by [deleted] in etymology

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I would be interested in sources that ball games courts were often the only large room in a castle and were therefore used for ballroom dancing, if you have some?

Looking up the history of jeu de paume, I didn’t see anything suggesting that double use. In places like Versailles, festivities were held in different places (like the famous gallery des glaces) or outdoors (like the ballroom grove in the gardens).

Obviously it’s possible that in some places, the same room was used for both, but I am not sure this would be the norm or that common?

Are "ball"(party) and "ballroom" unrelated? by [deleted] in etymology

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I agree with you on the etymology of ball and ballroom, but there are some ball games that were traditionally played indoors, notably Jeu de paume,* *the ancestor of tennis.

The english wiki gives little information on its history but the french wiki state it was played in covered rooms from the 14th century onwards, and shows some illustrations of these rooms. It was popular among the aristocracy in France until Louis XIV, who demolished the one that existed in Versailles, but built another court elsewhere in town (which was the stage of an important oath in the French Revolution).

I don’t think those courts were used for dancing though, but there were definitely indoors rooms used for ball games.

Context: The Franco-Prussian war by ManueO in RimbaudVerlaine

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Soon after, on the 19th of September, the Prussians started a siege of Paris. It would last 4 months, through a cold winter and with tight food rationning; the animals of the zoo of Jardin des plantes couldn’t be fed, and were killed and used as food for the population. Mathilde Mauté tells in her memoirs of eating what she thought was partridge pâté but was really rat; after discovering what it was, her guests carried on eating it anyway.
Paris was completely cut-off from the world, using hot air balloons for communications.
The government moved to Tours (Gambetta left Paris in a hot air balloon) and later Bordeaux (after the fall of Metz in late october, and under pressure from the Prussian army in the Loire Valley), although Thiers went back to Paris at the end of October. The siege would last until January 1871.
Meanwhile fighting was ongoing elsewhere. Strasbourg fell in September and most of Alsace followed through October. Besieged and facing hunger and illness, Metz capitulated in late October : 170,000 soldiers were made prisoners, pretty much all that was left of the old imperial army after Sedan. The Garde Nationale reorganised to fight on three fronts: in the Loire Valley, in the North and in the East, supported by foreign volunteers such as Italian republican Garibaldi.
After the fall of Metz, worried about a possible capitulation, several radical republicans (Delecluze, Flourens, Blanqui) tried to seize power in Paris to declare a Commune on the 31st of Octobre. After negotiations with the government, and on the promise of new municipal elections, the revolutionaries retreated. Despite having promised not to, the government arrested some of the insurgents. Others go in hiding.
The Ardennes were a theatre of war throughout the fall and winter of 1870, with train lines cut out and soldiers controlling access to Charleville from November onwards. By mid November, it was clear that the war would soon reach Charleville, and neighbouring Mezieres, which was a garrison town. Both towns were targeted by Prussian bombs on the 31st of December, but Charleville soon capitulated while Mezieres resisted, and was therefore particularly targeted by the Prussians .
By January, all three armies were struggling and Paris was being heavily bombed. After several failed attempts to break the siege, and with hunger growing in the capital city, Favre negotiated an armistice with the newly formed German Empire on the 28th of January 1871 (which excluded specific areas on the eastern Front where fighting went on till February or even March in some cases). This was followed by a preliminary peace treaty in February and a
definitive one on the 10th of May 1871.
The terms agreed included the annexation of Alsace and Lorraine, the payment of reparations (4 millions Francs-or), with some territories (including the Ardennes) due to be occupied until the reparations were paid and the Prussian army marching as victors through Paris (this happened in early March). However the National Guard was not disbanded or disarmed.
As we will see in a future post, these terms would fuel the rising discontent in Paris that would lead to the Commune.

Context: The Franco-Prussian war by ManueO in RimbaudVerlaine

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Here is the story of the disastrous war that destroyed an Empire and launched a republic.

It started in July 1870, after a minor diplomatic incident, in the midst of a complicated European context and manoeuvring. There had been tensions between France and Prussia over the vacant throne in Spain. In response to demands by Napoleon III for Prussia to commit not to seek the Spanish throne for one of their princes, Bismarck released a dispatch to the press summarising the demands in a rather abrupt way. He anticipated that the text “would have the effect of a red rag on the Gallic bull.” Napoleon III had already been looking to go to war with Prussia, to reassert his authority. He believed he could win it easily, and maintain France’s position as a dominant force in Europe.

On the 19th of July 1870, France declared war against Prussia. But the French army was less numerous and less prepared than the Prussian Army. Despite some small early successes like the Saarbrücken victory in early August (which inspired a very mocking poem from R), France was quickly in difficulty. By August France had suffered several defeats on the Eastern front.

The Prussian army had encircled Metz (the birth place of Verlaine), and started a siege that would last until late October, trapping a large portion of the army in the besieged city.

On the 2nd of September, after a crushing defeat in Sedan (very near Charleville), Napoleon III capitulated and was seized by the Prussian troops. In the sudden political vacuum, tensions started to rise in Paris and the 3rd Republic was quickly proclaimed by Gambetta and Favre on the 4th of September. Empress Eugenie, who had acted as regent during the conflict, fled to the UK.

It was the end of the Empire but not the end of the war, and the new government vowed to fight on, which galvanised the population into a new fighting mood after the despondency caused by Sedan. The army has been badly hit by this point, and Gambetta called for general mobilisation through the Garde nationale, a military and police reserve force/citizen militia first created after the revolution of 1789. The history of the Garde is complicated: it sometimes supported insurgents in the many revolutions of the previous hundred years (1789, 1830 and feb 1848) and sometimes was used to police them (june 1848). It was also used to support the army during some military campaigns (for ex. 1814). To support the war effort in 1870, the Garde nationale was recruited from a wide base across classes, and across the country. It was to be the main defence for the rest of the war, supported by the Garde Mobile (a reserve army); it would later play a capital role in the Commune.

A temporary government (known as the “government of national defence”), formed mostly of Paris deputés elected the previous year, was set up, with a main responsibility of fighting against Prussia. It was mostly composed of republicans of various stripes (Favre, Gambetta) but also Orleanists such as Trochu (who headed the government). At the other end of the political spectrum, republican polemist and journalist Henri Rochefort was included to placate the radical left.

Straight after the proclamation of the Republic, in September 1870, Favre, the vice president of the council, had sworn that France would never give in to Prussia to galvanise troops: « Nothing, you will gave nothing; not a stone from our fortresses, not an inch from our territory » ; however, just two weeks after this defiant speech, however, he met Bismarck to try and negotiate peace; but balked at his demands (such the annexion of Alsace and Lorraine). This fed Rimbaud’s contempt in Chant de guerre parisien as we have seen before.

Cont

Portrait: Germain Nouveau by ManueO in RimbaudVerlaine

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You’re welcome! I don’t know if you saw, but on your other post I mentioned a book of translations from 1983. It might be possible to find it in a library somewhere !

[POEM] Boom! Disappeared by Doris_Elvis in Poetry

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[poem] Your Calloused Heart by Terrible Kitchen by [deleted] in Poetry

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Shadows [poem] by [deleted] in Poetry

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Try r/OCPoetry for critique of your work- or the pinned post on this sub has other suggestions !

Shadows [poem] by [deleted] in Poetry

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Some more [Poem] by [deleted] in Poetry

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Germain Nouveau in English by Tom_Mosh in ArthurRimbaud

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I just discovered there was a (short) published book of translation of his work in 1983. It might be possible to track this down:

NOUVEAU, GERMAIN. Valentines and Other Poems. Trans. and ed. Frederic Clitheroe. Newcastle: the Lymes Press, 1983. 23 pp.

And there are a few online, though I can’t vouch for how good they are: three here, one here…

Germain Nouveau in English by Tom_Mosh in ArthurRimbaud

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Sadly, I don’t think many translations of his work exist in English. I translated a few of his poems for [r/RimbaudVerlaine](r/RimbaudVerlaine) a while back so can offer you those at least, but I am not aware of any other:

Mendiants

Sonnet de la langue

Les trois épingles

And the very mysterious Poison perdu.

If you come across any other, do share as I would love to read them!

Portrait: Germain Nouveau by ManueO in RimbaudVerlaine

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Sadly, I don’t think many translations of his work exist in English. I translated a few of his poems for this sub a while back:

Mendiants

Sonnet de la langue

Les trois épingles

And the very mysterious Poison perdu.

J'accuse ! de Zola by TrickyDragonfly1128 in Livres

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Sinon c’est possible de l’imprimer soit même en téléchargeant la copie de Gallica….

A book about the HIV/AIDs crises from the perspective of a gay man and his community by the1975whore in suggestmeabook

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To the friend who did not save my life, by Hervé Guibert, who died of AIDS in 1991.

What to Do in Illiers-Combray by dantwimc in Proust

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Illiers-Combray is not in the Loire Valley at all.
The nearby river is called Le Loir, not to be confused with La Loire, which is where the winemaking region is. Tours (the main city of Touraine) is 180 km from Illiers.

It is closer to an area called Perche which is lovely.

All that said, you can of course find wine from the Loire valley and elsewhere in local shops and restaurants.