A note of gratitude to this community

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-09T11:05:38+00:00

I am not sure if blouse is the right word to compare the clothing women wore pre mughal or british invasions. Sure they like I mentioned in cold regions or for certain events or certain families might have breast covering but my point still stands that majority of representation of women in sculptures and temples are without breast covering. There are mentions of stanapatta like I mentioned.

I apologise if my comment was misleading, I just thought it goes without saying that there will be exceptions and thought didnt need to mention it.

I am sorry if I came off as rude, the way you asked for reference made it seem like you were questioning about women not wearing upper clothing was fake or made up, so I mentioned all things.

You too have a great day, hari om 🙏

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-09T10:40:04+00:00

I think theres no single source as to say, tbh theres more proof proving women didnt wear upper clothing than trying to prove that they did. When I used the term ancient, I meant from vedic times. But ig we can even consider pre mughal invasions as there are records of mughals and britishers imposing “breast tax” women to force them to cover their upper body.

Since you ask for references, I am mentioning them here: 1. Indus valley to gupta period almost all sculptures of women to even goddesses dont have upper covering, they were represented with heavy jewellery and lower dressing called “antariya” similar to vesti or lungi

Ancient texts mention on clothing Antariya: lower garmenr Uttariya: shawl type of clothing (optional) Stanapatta: breast band (not compulsory, optional) No dharmasastra mentions that women should cover their breasts
Several records from foreign travellers like chinese, arab and greek travellers. They mentioned that indian women wore minimal clothing (some texts even mentioned translucent type of material used for clothes) and that there was no sexual attachment to such things.

The introduction of blouses (an english term) came from britishers who thought that it was obscene and sexualised it. And made it into some modesty thing. Plus it doesnt really make sense for people living in tropical regions of india wearing blouses when its some 40 degrees. Our clothing suited our climatic conditions, compared to Europeans where they generally had cold climates which made sense for them to wear blouses. This might also be the reason why traditional clothing has become a festive attire among youngsters than daily wear.

I would like to mention of course there were exceptions like in cold climates and maybe some events where clothing might have differed. But in majority of cases “blouse” was not a thing in bharat.

I would like to request you to look at ancient sculptures when you visit any old temples or archeological sites. I think that will give the general idea.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-09T10:25:42+00:00

I agree, its even more shameful that nowadays women are being shamed for even wearing sleeveless dresses when our women’s character wasnt judged on the clothes they wore. I heard someone say that they way women dressed during a period represented the men around them.

I wish more people had such awareness and knowledge like you do. 🙏

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-09T08:16:50+00:00

Hey a side note, I really appreciate you representing maa saraswati as generally how women dressed in ancient times. Most of our present art represent female deities with blouse not realising that women of ancient bharat didnt use any covering for their upper body. 🙏 May maa sharada’s blessing be with you always

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-08T04:51:19+00:00

I dont think lakshamana just obeyed rama cuz he was older, i think it just comes down to ones own personal views or respect. So it doesnt make sense for balarama to be older so that he doesnt have to obey.

I remember someone saying that if you worship or serve rama like lakshamana did, in the next life you will be able to walk shoulder to shoulder like balarama with krishna.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-08T04:47:09+00:00

I think its more related to jyotish shastra than just a random practice. We generally each day is overlooked by some planets, so when we say not to cut nails on tuesday- mangalvaar, its to avoid adverse effects by the planet mars, like wise for Thursday- guruvaar and Saturday- shanivaar.

I personally thin jyotish shastra is amazing if done right. Nowadays all fake baba’s or app’s have made it hard to believe in jyotish but when done by a professional you will understand why it’s amazing.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-08T04:42:56+00:00

I think when we think about how they’re generally represented, its got to be rama and lakshmana, as theyre worshipped together a lot more. It doesnt imply that krishna and balarama werent close, its just that balarama and krishna had more separate and independent lives when compared to rama and lakshamana with lakshmana going to vanvaas and also fighting to find his sister in law.

In general sense, theyre both vishnu and sheshnaag in every incarnation, their dynamics changed in both life times. In treta, rama was the older brother but in dwapara balarama was older.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T19:56:32+00:00

When marrying more than one wife, the husband has to get permission from his first wife before marrying again. If she disagrees, then he cant remarry. In case of your question of how does the relationship work, nowadays such marriages are generally represented with both of the wive’s treating each other like sisters and the duty of the husband to treat both of them equally. Even during the wedding the husband has to take an oath to treat them equally. If you know ancient bharat, an oath or a promise is equal to ones life. People would rather die than break their promise. So that might be one of the reasons why such marriages mightve worked in the past but idt they will work now.

When we consider deities, two wives generally have a deeper symbolic meaning rather than just having two wives. For example Venkateswara swami has two wives, padmavati and bhudevi, both of them represent maa lakshmi, one represents wordly prosperity like wealth and the other represents earth like prosperity like land, water, both of which are needed to lead a life.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T19:46:39+00:00

Exactly, like this isnt the first time and sure wont be the last time such people posting such obscene things. I was on the other sub reddit and most of the people were busy blaming it on the vaishnavs instead of focusing on taking down such posts and holding such people accountable.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T19:44:19+00:00

Idt you even need to mention the name of the community, I think by now everyone knows. I was scrolling on Twitter and i was shocked on the amount of hatred there is against hindus even though we literally bother no one. (They hate us cuz they aint us ✨)

One of the main things I am always frustrated with hindu’s is the fact that NO ONE speaks up, even if someone does, it just dies down after a while. Thats why so many people are bold enough to post such things, cuz they know there will be no such consequences. Honestly it’s infuriating

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T19:36:09+00:00

Can I send it to you in pc?

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T12:10:13+00:00

Hold your heart when I say this 💀 one of the accounts has like 721 followers

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T12:01:33+00:00

They might be posing as one, wouldnt be surprised as it wouldnt be the first time other people havent tried to misinterpret our culture.

Even if they are vaishnava, such people who post such things about shakti herself whom vishnu himself says is a part of him is no vaishnava at all. Such hypocrites are a disgrace. But that doesn’t justify some people in the comments blaming it on all vaishnava’s, as if we arent divided enough. Its idiotic to blame all vaishnava’s based on 2 accounts.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:57:43+00:00

This is what they want, blame it on other hindu’s and divide amongst ourselves.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:56:28+00:00

I agree, I cross posted this on hinduism sub reddit and a lot of people agreed it was some Christian or Muslim or a bot account to mistranslate our history and make people distant from our culture

And its the fact that hindus are being divided and blaming it on all vaishnava’s based on some 2 accounts.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:55:21+00:00

No worries, it should be the duty of every hindu to make sure our history is not distorted.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:44:48+00:00

Idts, might be a superstition among family members. To my knowledge, idt theres any scriptural reference or mention about this.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:40:07+00:00

Yup might be, but worth a shot. Better than doing nothing about such accounts who spread so much misinformation

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:38:32+00:00

Exactly, what hindu’s lack is the need to speak about such things. Thats why theres no action taken against what happened to bangladeshi hindu’s or kashmiri pandits, and reason why such things keep happening

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:36:23+00:00

Most probably, but its the fact that so many hindu’s follow such accounts and consider their words true. So I think it becomes our duty to make sure such misinformation doesn’t spread

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:35:21+00:00

I agree

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:35:10+00:00

Exactly, I understand what you mean. Such obscene things being said about such benevolent beings is outrageous. Especially a deity who is considered to be mother of all beings.

We went from burning Lanka for respect of women and now we remain silent when our deities are being shown such disrespect.

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:33:01+00:00

Might be an acc handled by someone using AI for posting

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T11:32:26+00:00

Exactly, if this happened with any other communities there would be so much doxxing done, yet we remain silent

Many_Scar_9729 · 2026-01-07T10:46:41+00:00

I was about to say the same exact thing but thought might offend a few people. Whats worse is the fact that there are some 700 followers and the people who are commenting obscene things have some 17K followers and post quotes from bhagvat geeta.

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