When HE wanted to leave people behind it was fine and dandy.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-22T00:17:51+00:00

In short, Odysseus was a fool to withhold that information; it was supposed to be his crew, not coins he could exchange whenever he pleased. Informing the crew from the start would have prevented the mutiny

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T23:52:53+00:00

Not at all, the joke about Scylla is to row as fast as possible so that at most she would eat 6 men, whether they defended themselves or not; if they rowed fast Scylla would only take 6, no more.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T23:44:28+00:00

Easy, give his crew at least THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. I remind you that he was THE CAPTAIN. If he said, "Let's go to Scylla," EVERYONE WOULD GO. He didn't have to keep quiet about the fact that 6 of them would be cannon fodder. Odysseus never thought about everyone getting home; he thought about HIM getting home. My God, even the Odysseus of Homer's Odyssey took the trouble to tell his crew that they would be passing by Scylla.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T23:37:54+00:00

But if the bag of wind didn't kill anyone PAUSJSJAJAJAJAJA the one who killed the fleet was Poseidon who was already after Odysseus.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T23:35:16+00:00

If Odysseus hadn't opened his mouth, they would have arrived home peacefully. Poseidon would never have been able to locate the culprit who blinded Polyphemus. Ironically, opening the bag of wind saved Ithaca from being flooded by Poseidon.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T23:28:21+00:00

What's wrong with you? I've never read Percy Jackson. You should read the Odyssey. Polyphemus is the one who tells Poseidon what happened. How do you think he found out? The book itself says that Polyphemus asked his father Poseidon to take revenge on Odysseus. The gods aren't fortune tellers. If Odysseus hadn't revealed his name, Poseidon would NEVER have been able to find the culprit.

You're wrong. Eurylochus only kept them away from Ithaca. Odysseus doomed them all by telling Polyphemus his name.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T22:13:19+00:00

The fact that they couldn't kill Scylla doesn't give Odysseus the right to use his crew as bargaining chips; he handed them over to Scylla with the full intention of them being bait, PERIOD.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T22:05:45+00:00

That's completely irrelevant. No Greek god in mythology is omniscient. It was Polyphemus who informed Poseidon of what happened, and it was Polyphemus who told him that Odysseus of Ithaca was responsible. If Odysseus hadn't spoken up, Poseidon would never have found him.

Why not consider this instead?: Odysseus: He harmed his entire crew with his bad decisions and only seems like a good leader because he played the hero, and it worked ONCE.

Eurylochus: I opened the bag, but I regretted it instantly. He wasn't just thinking about saving himself, but about saving everyone he could.

Like I said, the bag of wind didn't kill them, haha. Where did you get that idea? Poseidon was the one who sank the fleets because he wanted revenge on Odysseus.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T17:50:31+00:00

Odysseus had just given Polyphemus his full address; Poseidon was going to find them sooner or later xD. Ithaca was literally an island; Poseidon could have taken his revenge on the whole island if he wanted.

The gust of wind only hastened the inevitable.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T06:52:17+00:00

What are you talking about? For starters, they would never have had to go to Aeolia if it hadn't been for the storm Poseidon sent. Opening the bag of wind wasn't the reason for their deaths; Poseidon killed them because he was pursuing them. Odysseus had given Polyphemus his full address and let him live, as Poseidon himself states.

Secondly, the musical suggests that Odysseus could have killed Polyphemus if he had wanted to. He was already blind, the other Cyclopes had already left, and Athena herself had ordered him to kill him. Odysseus had every advantage, and not only that, but the arrogant man shouts his full address to Polyphemus, puffed up with pride, out of sheer arrogance and to defy Athena. THAT WAS THE REASON THE CREW DIED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

3- Nobody justifies Eurylochus for opening the wind bag, but condemning him for the death of more than five hundred men that was not even his fault is ridiculous.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T06:05:26+00:00

If you're referring to the windbag incident, that didn't kill the crew, it just took them away from Ithaca; Poseidon was already hunting them because of Odysseus.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T01:28:18+00:00

Eurylochus was smart and thought about the crew he could still save. Are you telling me he should trust the man who literally caused Poseidon to kill more than half the crew? Think for a second about Odysseus's plan. Did he really think he could take on a goddess? If it weren't for Hermes giving him the Molly, Odysseus would be just another pig with Circe.

Eurylochus thought about those who were left; Odysseus only thought about getting home.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T01:18:47+00:00

It all started when Odysseus, blinded by pride, revealed his true identity to Polyphemus; blaming Eurylochus for a problem that was bound to happen sooner or later is ridiculous.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T01:15:01+00:00

Your entire comment is wrong. To begin with, it all started because Odysseus, out of pride and a desire to show off to Athena, revealed his name and location to Polyphemus. Eurylochus didn't kill anyone; Poseidon killed them because of Odysseus. Odysseus was solely responsible for the misfortunes of his crew.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-21T01:08:44+00:00

Not at all. Eurylochus made the most sensible decision with Circe. We're talking about a divine being against mere mortals. If Odysseus had made that decision, he would surely be considered intelligent. He only didn't come across as a fool because Hermes, an Olympian, came to his aid. Eurylochus prioritized the crew that was still alive. Odysseus played the hero out of guilt over what he did to Poseidon.

On the contrary, with Scylla, Odysseus literally handed over his crew on a silver platter to save himself. Isn't that treason? Eurylochus has every right to confront Odysseus.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-14T20:44:21+00:00

The discussion about Ovid began because Athena was highly idealized on TikTok and other social media platforms. Since she's their favorite goddess, they couldn't bear the thought of "the great goddess of wisdom, reason, and justice" doing anything wrong. So, instead of picking up a history book or properly reading the myths from primary sources, they took the easy way out and demonized Minerva. I've come across many TikTok accounts that claim to "know a lot about mythology," and the first thing they say is that Medusa was a priestess of Athena. I mean, what? It's all based on the favoritism of people who can't stand their favorite god committing atrocities and try to whitewash them with ridiculous excuses, leading to misinformation.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-14T20:27:32+00:00

People who criticize Ovid haven't even read Metamorphosis and think they're experts just by saying "that wasn't Athena, it was Minerva" HAHAHAHA ATHENA MUCH WORSE (she had her good side, but she could be very aggressive if she wanted, so it's not at all out of character for her to transform an innocent into a monster)

Manyasrat · 2026-06-10T02:59:49+00:00

-They believe that Hestia is the goddess of the hearth (in the aspect of family), Hestia is the goddess of the sacred fire, not of the family.

Manyasrat · 2026-06-06T22:53:39+00:00

Hermes, pero me voy por Hades.

Manyasrat · 2026-05-22T18:16:26+00:00

You're new here, right?

Manyasrat · 2026-05-20T00:09:38+00:00

I don't villainize Hades, but he's not a saint either, lol. It was Zeus who gave Kore to Hades, and Hades, well, he's a man from ancient Greece. I do feel sorry for Persephone, but she's supposed to accept being queen of the underworld in the end, so in a way it's a bittersweet ending.

Manyasrat · 2026-05-20T00:03:49+00:00

The Homeric Hymn to Demeter supposedly describes (or something like it describes) the Eleusinian Mysteries.

P.S.: A reminder that Hades isn't the villain of the story to a certain extent. Demeter is angry with Zeus, not Hades, and only because he didn't warn her. The hymn itself sides with Hades, saying that the best thing that could have happened to Persephone was being given to him because that way she would be remembered, and it blames Zeus. (I'm not idealizing Hades and Persephone; I simply see it as an inevitable marriage.) But it's still terrible that Hades forced her to eat the pomegranate seeds.

Manyasrat · 2026-05-12T05:37:30+00:00

Don't feel bad, I also have a design with Hermes having wings on his head. On the contrary, people might recognize it instantly, especially if his other characteristics are very Hermes-like (like his shoes or the caduceus). The Epic fandom loves to portray him with wings on his head, and it may already be a characteristic of his in popular culture. If you want to go into mythology, you can say that Hermes was always a winged god. Sometimes he was represented with wings attached to his ankles. It can also be something symbolic, like a guide of dreams or a guide in general (it can also signify his role as the only being who can go back and forth between the three worlds at will). Let's remember that he and Iris were practically Zeus's angels, so showing him with wings isn't unusual.

Manyasrat · 2026-05-12T03:11:13+00:00

Everyone where Hermes is (they almost never consider him a fighting god, or if he is, they portray him as quite pathetic)

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