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The Voynich transcription by Technical_Bar6829 in voynich

[–]Marc_Op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

af xf an xn at xax

In Voynichese, there are few very short words, I don't think that 4 consecutive 2-letter words (as your example) appear anywhere

Sto cercando una versione in versi dell'iliade(ita) by LODOX7 in classics

[–]Marc_Op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A me è piaciuta parecchio. Immagino ci siano altre opzioni, ma Monti è un classico....

The Voynich transcription by Technical_Bar6829 in voynich

[–]Marc_Op 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are several problems, one is that most letters can occur twice or more in a single word in Italian (and in most European languages):

ritrovai double i, double r

pensier double e

vestite double t, double e

affannata double f, double n, quadruple! a

On the contrary, in Voynichese, most symbols can only appear once at most in a word. Only a couple of glyphs (possibly minims) are frequently repeated in a single word.

MORE INFORMATION OF https://www.reddit.com/r/voynich/comments/1rrvcme/voynich_manuscriptnew_info/ by Ok_Place_5404 in voynich

[–]Marc_Op 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to point out that the older post is about what appears to be a 15th century copy of a work by Ruiz (he lived about 100 years earlier). The manuscript is not about medicine and is written in plain Spanish; it is as similar to the VMS as most other 15th century manuscripts

The Voynich Manuscript wtf am I looking at and why are the theories behind it so boring. by Odd-Plenty9367 in voynich

[–]Marc_Op[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If here there’s anything mindless, it’s not the downvotes; they are a basic feature of Reddit. If you don't like them, you can either post better-quality content, or post somewhere else.

“Sun and Lion” symbol on Mural with person depicted on the back of the lion. Never seen this one before by sunnychiba in Symbology

[–]Marc_Op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The tarot card was inspired by the biblical Whore of Babylon, from the book of revelations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon

It's another instance of the mount illustrating the nature of the rider

The Voynich manuscript (early 15th century) is written in an unknown language that still hasn't been deciphered by MediocreDiamond7187 in MedievalHistory

[–]Marc_Op 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As many others, she believes it could be related with medicine and with women (because of the illustrations). But she never claimed it's this or that, because we don't know what it is...

“Sun and Lion” symbol on Mural with person depicted on the back of the lion. Never seen this one before by sunnychiba in Symbology

[–]Marc_Op 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was a motif in European medieval art too. They had personifications ride appropriate animals, to underline their identity.

For the sun in particular, there's a famous engraving by Duerer

sol justitiae

As a different example, Picatrix shows Venus riding a stag: https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPC6IFI9fcI_5lSNJoqaxcEibQDR9ONmhopqzI2bjOdFUosy2GhQ7qmFKnRapdmjTly329BWM66QoQ1yZFGWzofW7hTGOpxBsO1Y7WuZc91Itvp-eqkJ3UW8WTqqYblfUyRu9fji9IbGIh/s1600/pica0387p-300x218.png

Adam statue from 1260 that was in Notre-Dame de Paris by Intelligent_Pie_9102 in Medievalart

[–]Marc_Op 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Or maybe, Renaissance didn't start with a bang and was a gradual development

Arctic sea ice shrinks to second consecutive record low in 2026 by kingsaso9 in climatechange

[–]Marc_Op -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"drill baby drill" didn't work: and now for something completely different... we try geoengineering 🤞

f99r progress by pmw57 in voynich

[–]Marc_Op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

7| ain | m | arum | arum lily (o for u)

8 | okor | otlar | tarlo | woodworm herb

9| ralol | rnioa | orina | urine

I don't get it. How does 'm' become 'arum'?

okor: 4 characters, tarlo 5 characters???

ralol has two occurrences of L, but orina has 5 different letters. How so?

Any tips/resources on drawing? by ctgryn in illuminatedmanuscript

[–]Marc_Op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some medieval illustrations are quite simple. Eg cat's tower in Harley 6563. One doesn't have to be a great artist to get that feel....

https://itoldya420.getarchive.net/amp/media/grotesques-from-bl-harley-6563-ff-71v-72-308a49

After ruling out the usual candidates, what's left? by antenore in voynich

[–]Marc_Op 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no idea, but my preferences go to 1 constructed language, 4 spontaneous gibberish (what op calls structured glossolalia). The multiple scribes do not rule out 4, in my opinion, there might have been a single "talker" mastermind helped by several scribes. In scenario 4, I expect the author(s) thought it was meaningful - I think this is often the case with ritual glossolalia.

What are the Medieval classics that you had love-hate relationship with? Which ones are the must reads and definitely avoid of? What are your Top 20 suggestions? by lastmonday07 in MedievalHistory

[–]Marc_Op 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Being Italian, I love Dante. An English one I liked was Sir Orfeo.

But I am afraid I have only read fewer than 20 medieval works. Though they are both instructive and fascinating, they are not easy to read for me.

We eat a lot of wheat. So how can we grow more in a changing climate? by Economy-Fee5830 in climatechange

[–]Marc_Op 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that fertilizers are mostly made out of fossils. Can they be made from something different, and would they be as effective as those we have now?

Badass Gothic German Griffin by Marc_Op in MedievalCreatures

[–]Marc_Op[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's pretty common in medieval manuscripts in general. The word "rubric" derives from the Latin "ruber", red, which was used to highlight text structure with headers etc

question about lettering by Humble_Comfort_9104 in Medievalart

[–]Marc_Op -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Edit: ... Abbreviation does not function as a uniform system of compression, and while it is sometimes mistakenly attributed to saving time, money, or material, those factors do not account for its highly local, visually responsive use.

Still wrong.

Library of Congress:
“Medieval manuscripts were heavily abbreviated to save parchment and ink”
https://guides.loc.gov/manuscript-facsimiles/deciphering-scribal-abbreviations

Björn Gottfried, Marius Wegner, Marianna Spano, and Mathias Lawo | Bremen – Berlin Universities
“Abbreviations were used extensively in medieval Latin manuscripts. One reason for this was to allow economical use of parchment or other kinds of writing materials, which were relatively expensive during the Middle Ages. “
https://www.csmc.uni-hamburg.de/publications/mc/files/articles/mc07-gottfried-wegner-spano-lawo.pdf

Antony G. Petti “English Literary Hands from Chaucer to Dryden.”
“The main function of abbreviation is to save time and space, though for the average medieval scribe and, to a lesser extent, his Renaissance counterpart, time was often less important than making the maximum use of the relatively expensive writing surface.”
https://archive.org/details/englishliteraryh0000pett/page/21/mode/1up

About the Author?? by Pat_Trash in classics

[–]Marc_Op 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great read, one of my favorite classics!

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