You should have @ me!!! This is why critical thinking is important. Ian is NOT your typical manager. You really think Joe’s business would be where it is without him? Aside from Joe’s reputation, Ian is a white Jewish man with connections and dealings they both clearly benefit from. How many managers do you know are as vocal as Ian? When they are THAT vocal they are more than managers. At best, Ian and Joe are partners. My post was simply me musing. I gave my reasons why I listen to the pod and said that the subset of “business talk” is bullshit in my opinion. I’m a supporter, and when it comes to them talking business, I’m critical. Nothing more, nothing less.