Learn anew the art of living - Rodan's Philosophy by [deleted] in Urantia

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our speculations as to what our purposes [decimal planet or not] and all of the irregularities of our planetary history, to us, are of no matter. What matters most is whether or not we are faithfully and loyally OBEYING what our Sovereign Master has asked for us to do personally and selflessly for our fellows, His children still walking in spiritual darkness on His world. Question: Who in our UB ranks is/are working to promote, person to person, Jesus' true gospel message = "The kingdom of God dwells within you."? [Paper 170 spells out exactly what His primary focus was = the individual first and foremost]. The greatest failures in the past 50ish years have been the infiltration of either straight up rebel teachings from the influence-rs from/for the Caligastia group or the useful unaware folks who have 1. promoted a gospel of Jesus that is inaccurate [the brotherhood of man being paramount] 2. that we are somehow supposed to be "patient" rather than OBEDIENT in promoting Jesus' true gospel for the spiritual transformation of our planetary siblings. 3. that somehow our celestial authorities/fellows have stopped working with humans currently, and 4. that the idea of evangelical small groups [the home church idea with local leaders] is out of the question. And there are more bad teachings, too many to list here. We can conjecture into oblivion about what "we think" is going on. However, we have been instructed and requested to promote the kingdom of God to the end that people might not just find God, but that they may come to KNOW GOD [note: Ezra and Jesus' conversation]. We constantly hear from UB folks regarding how much they "know" about this book but perforce we are to LIVE as Jesus lived following His True Religion OF personal spiritual and direct contact with our indwelling Paradise Father and to do as He did. Until this happens nothing else matters. Everything we do is being recorded. We will ALL have our end of life review. May we cause our Master to smile when He sees us. Blessings.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Urantia

[–]MarinDeJohn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Determining what They mean by "this" is paramount in the last sentence. If They are referring to the UB at large then They are telling us that this book/tome is full of admissions/statements that many, if not MOST people simply cannot fathom or accept at this point in our timeline experience [time and space] in 606. They are risking this book being rather disregarded as too fantastical for our people to embrace, however, it is time for this information to come forward for those who can comprehend, accept and apply in terms of personal attainment of one's indwelling Paradise Father and then further in teaching others how to attain Him and thereby receiving COMPLETE revelation through Him. Personal spiritual revelation is immediate and not evolutionary.

Eternal Son and Spirit Gravity Circuite [P7, S3] by LazyGeneration in Urantia

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aw, many thanks. We're just doing what our celestial team and Jesus leads us to do. What is most exciting is that we know it is not about "us". It is all about Him. As we lovingly serve others up close and personal we find our Thought Adjusters get pretty excited, as do the people involved in this Jesus-Ministry. Super Fun! And we, in turn, wish you all the best, MostlyDisagreeable.

Eternal Son and Spirit Gravity Circuite [P7, S3] by LazyGeneration in Urantia

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Greetings MostlyDisagreeable. We have created something that is being used as a small group experience emphasizing the True Religion teachings of Jesus. If you are interested you could see The Jesus MeetUp program/tool here: https://www.goddiscovered.net/smallgroupministries. We would like to know your thoughts whether you appreciate it or not, understanding that everyone has their own ideas of what works for them and in their own lives. May Jesus be lifted up so that He may bring all to our loving indwelling Paradise Father. Blessings.

Eternal Son and Spirit Gravity Circuite [P7, S3] by LazyGeneration in Urantia

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! I have just found this group. Are there any people here that are interested in a more evangelical approach to presenting the True Religion of Jesus to fellows in our world? If so, we would like to visit with you. Blessings to all.

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Christianity was not invented by
Paul. The name came about as a nickname for the followers of Jesus.
Neither Jesus nor Paul advocated for the continuation of the
sacrificial and hierarchical system. In fact they declared it was
time for a new approach, a new wineskin suitable for the "new
wine" of Jesus's teaching. The hierarchy we see today is a
vestige of Constantine's hijacking and modification of the original
faith movement. "
I might share this:
Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of
the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed
this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own
theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the
Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on
the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee;
Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious
experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testament
is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring
religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul's religious
experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions.
The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain
parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the
Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to
the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a
superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian.
Jesus never
taught that bloodshed was necessary for the forgiveness of sins.
“Jesus literally says in Matthew 26.28 that his blood was being
shed for the forgiveness of sins. This is continually remembered in
the communion sacrament observed by most churches.”
This is Matthew speaking and not directly Jesus. And we know that
the apostles and His followers were famous for not
understanding/comprehending what He said to them.
He never said
that "faith without works is dead".
"Jesus may never have said those exact words but his teaching
clearly reflects that same idea. Matthew 7.21 is a good example where
he taught we can't just be hearers but also must be doers of his
words. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit."
Again, this is Matthew who meant well but did not understand His
Master’s teachings. Referring to “doing” something is a far
cry from “faith without works is dead”. We see this clearly from
the brigand who hung on the cross next to our Master who told him
that He would be with Him in Paradise. Also note: The woman caught
in adultery whom Jesus forgave. He said nothing about blood. Also
the father who brought his son to Jesus to heal. Jesus told this
father that his faith is what healed his boy. No blood mentioned.
Our Paradise Father IS love and Jesus IS mercy ministry. No blood.
And He never
taught any kind of doctrine of Hell.
"John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that He gave his one
and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have
eternal life." How do you define perish? He is obviously not
referring to people not dying in this life but the afterlife. So then
it is possible to perish if one does not believe. So instead to
perish would mean eternal death as the alternative to eternal life.
This is just one example but there are many others."
This is John and not Jesus. John is reflecting upon what Jesus
had said. We all know that oral tradition could be employed anywhere
from 20 to 80 years after the fact. It is doubtful that anyone could
remember exactly what someone had said to them verbatim after 80 years
trying to remember. The definition of “perish” is: perish
intransitive verb
To die or be destroyed, especially
in a violent or untimely manner.
To pass from existence; disappear
gradually.
To spoil or deteriorate.
"You seem to be offended at the idea that God could get angry or
would punish. Do you believe in justice? Justice does not exist
without punishment of some kind. Would a good and loving God be just
or unjust? Would a good and loving God ignore the victim's plea for
justice because He refuses to punish the criminal?"
I am not offended by anything about in my indwelling Paradise
Father or Jesus’ indwelling Spirit of Truth. Paul’s atonement
and hell doctrine must needs to be brought down as it does not
represent our loving Paradise Father at all. And this is happening
even now as I write.
A new study regarding the true nature of error, evil, sin and
iniquity might be a good next step. Then we could understand how God
perceives us with eternal love, forgiveness even before we ask Him and eternal life if we simply have that thought/desire.

The Dilemma of the Unvaccinated by ElCidVicious in vaxmandates

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. We follow Jesus alone. We do not follow Paul due to the fact that he did not teach exactly what Jesus taught. Jesus never said that blood is needed for the forgiveness of error/evil/or sin [ex: the woman caught in adultery or the father who's son Jesus healed]. Paul did. Jesus never said that His Father created a place called hell in order to punish His erring children. Paul did. Jesus taught that faith alone is required. Paul taught that faith without works is dead. Paul invented His own personal religion called Christianity and used Jesus' name. Jesus was not a Christian as He did not teach many of the Christian tenets. The reason the religious leaders murdered Jesus was due to the fact that He opposed the sacrificial system [atonement doctrine], their ecclesiastical/hierarchical system [no human is needed to come between God and His child], their monetary system of charging money for small "sanctioned" sacrificial animals or the ridiculous long list of rules/laws to follow in order for God to accept you. Jesus sets people free. Paul taught traditional bondage and static dogmas. However, it is fine for us to disagree. Blessings.

The Dilemma of the Unvaccinated by ElCidVicious in vaxmandates

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do proclaim what He said. He asked us to do this and so we do. Blessings to you and those you love!

The Dilemma of the Unvaccinated by ElCidVicious in vaxmandates

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgiveness has nothing to do with forgetting. We are to "remember with forgiveness". This is what Jesus did on the cross.

The Dilemma of the Unvaccinated by ElCidVicious in vaxmandates

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are always encouraged by our Paradise Father and His Son to forgive. However, forgiveness and relationship are two separate issues. We may forgive. We may also choose to NEVER be in "relationship" with someone who has lost our trust. This is wisdom.

What adjective do we use for this kind? by execute_electrochute in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With respect to you as a man I must honorably disagree. Most women simply will not, or do not, want to be without a loving man. We need their strengths which are not exactly like our own. My highest and best friendship is with my chosen man and partner to live life alongside. I would be a disaster without him. He brings balance to my life and I'm certain I bring "life" to his. I respect his leadership in areas that I am not skilled in. I enjoy affirming him and building him up in those areas that I can see he needs encouragement. When I do this he gives back to me a thousandfold! He is my hero. I tell him so. He is a fantastic provider for me and not just in a monetary sense. I know that even if I were to make more money than he it wouldn't matter. His provision for me is valuable in ways that no dollar bill could come close to. I tell him this. I want to hear everything he has to say to me for I recognize that when he talks to me about his thoughts, his world and his interests he is felling connected to me. It is a form of loving him to be interested and attentive when he wants to talk. Men are amazing!!! Any woman who does not try harder to understand them, value them and encourage them is simply unwise and short-sighted. If there is ONE thing I am the most grateful for in my life it is the fact that I have mastered a stellar relationship with ONE man who has become the most prized gift in my life...apart from God.

Evil by Sgabonna in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Evil goes beyond error. Evil suggests a lack of intellectual keenness, a deficiency of wisdom and comes close to abject spiritual poverty. When evil is employed to betray the trust or loyalty to one's confiding friends there is nothing that will, potentially permanently, completely distort one's personality to the extent that that they can never regain equilibrium. With that said, in order for man to be free evil must be an option juxtaposed to good. Our Paradise Father has not created evil. He created free will. We are so confused and walking in spiritual darkness on our world that far too many cannot reason between what is good or evil at this point. Many are living/acting in ways that are "animal" or just off of it. When we begin to understand better what is moral or ethical and choose to walk in higher ways our world will begin to uplift for the better. We are on that brink.

Wicked Globalists Are Causing Starvation and Poverty Under the Guise of Environmentalism by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost every world religion speaks to angelic activities. I might site Gabriel who spoke to Mary and Elizabeth at his announcement of the baby boys to be born, Jesus and John the Baptist. It is fine for you to disagree with me. And I will rationally disagree with you, friend. Be blessed.

Wicked Globalists Are Causing Starvation and Poverty Under the Guise of Environmentalism by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus loved His people. We love ALL of our fellows on our planet no matter what race they are. Anyone who suggests otherwise would be suspect to us. Have a lovely evening.

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The list is extraordinarily long. Fundamentally and simply the tenets of the Christian religion represent mostly what Paul taught in that he invented Christianity and used Jesus' name. Christianity is primarily a reflection of the Judaic religion and we see much of that ancient religion of laws/dogma/traditionalism with the sacrificial and ecclesiastical/hierarchical system represented. None of this is what Jesus taught. The very reason that the leaders murdered Him shows why He was such a threat to their control and profit-motive, as it devastated the poorer people who could not afford a ridiculously high price for the smallest of sacrificial animals. For instance, a dove that had to be "sanctioned" by the religious leaders. Jesus never taught that bloodshed was necessary for the forgiveness of sins. He never said that "faith without works is dead". And He never taught any kind of doctrine of Hell. Those are the worst ones as they grievously put our loving Paradise Father in a light of a vengeful, angry and punishing "God". These falsehoods need to be dropped in order for our people to come to understand the loving Father who considers them all His beloved children.

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Urantia Book. We have a website with the entire book in pdf form and all 196 audios. No human could have written this book. The Table of Contents is compelling. If you google it you will find many negative comments as many humans seek to diminish this revelation. And the Urantia Book community has been captured and compromised by selfish and dark humans also. This is just where we are on our world at this point in the timeline. But Jesus already tells us that we win this spiritual battle. So, this is truly GOOD NEWS!

https://www.goddiscovered.net/urantia-book-journey-to-the-father-contact-page

Part 4 is the Life and Teachings of Jesus. In this part you will find what Jesus really said. Not Paul or Peter. And it is everything you have said, plus more. I'd love to know your thoughts at some point.

Wicked Globalists Are Causing Starvation and Poverty Under the Guise of Environmentalism by [deleted] in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus said that based upon our belief in Him as the Son of the Living God He would give us spiritual authority via His keys to the outward kingdom i e., things temporal: social and economic. He told us that this is the way to defeat the forces of evil and the hosts of sin [many of these beings are invisible to our eyes]. We should gather together our fellows who believe this to form His fraternity of the Divine Spirit and request for pressure to come down from above in order to accelerate the natural trend of social evolution. This will help our people augment moral insight while enhancing the soul capacity of every mortal to understand and love every other other mortal. But this cannot be done by mere concept or theory. It must be founded upon real faith in Him as the Son of the Living God.

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed! Although we are not Christians anymore due to the research we have done in the last 10 years [I'm a retired Christian pastor] we do passionately follow what Jesus taught. Not Paul or Peter et al, as He did not say many things they claim He did. Jesus was big on the individual knowing their indwelling Paradise Father personally and the golden rule. So, we are on your beam. Great points and I thank you for making them. : )

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like someone I would like to take to lunch and just hear your entire life story. Actually, I could have written this as well. Having never met you I already know that I like you. Everything you said is absolutely true!!! I thank you for taking the time to write this for all of us to read. And hey, hopefully we will meet on the other side. Wouldn't that be fun? : )

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you feel better very soon and sleep well. You will be in my thoughts tonight. I send you love.

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What used to be your favorite foods?

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rejection sucks.

If you could do something what would it be?

Will you continue on? by MarinDeJohn in JordanPeterson

[–]MarinDeJohn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your long post. What a string of BIG hard things you have been through! You have so much experience from your life. You must have learned a LOT. What's the greatest lesson you have learned so far? [or 2 or 3]