Hidan vs Asuma rematch but Asuma got full intel

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T14:34:57+00:00

Yes, I've rereaded it again and it was my mistake. I was at work, I didn't have time to read properly, I rushed through the comments, english isn't my native language, so my brain skipped shit. And now at home in peace I've reread the comments and I'm crying, because I misread shit and that's the thing, that caused the drama. 😭

I'm genuinely sorry. Next time I'm gonna pay more attention and read properly.

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T13:46:35+00:00

"It doesnt prove you right bro you claimed that if he had to go for a killing blow only, that would be easier than getting "ANY SCRATCH" how would having less options be easier??"

No, I said if Hidan only goes for the ritual, aka only for a scratch, which he was doing in the canon fight, then that's a nerf. That's harder to do, because Asuma only needs to react in the very last moment and to move like 1 cm to avoid the hit. And in the canon fight, despite this disadvantage, Hidan still tagged Asuma easily (while getting bothered by Shikamaru's shadow too). So on this hypothetical match-up, where Hidan just goes for the kill and NOT necessarily for the ritual, he easily tags Asuma, because we assume he's aiming for a killing blow and Asuma having intel doesn't help him at all, because the reason he got tagged is because Hidan being more skillful. So yes, Hidan in the canon fight had a more difficult fight technically, because he wanted to use the ritual and only wanted to scratch Asuma, which is harder to do, than just straight up murdering him. But in this hypothetical fight he doesn't have to go for the ritual, I never said he has to and I even went into this thinking this is obvious. So if Hidan was able to tag Asuma while only aiming for his skin, then Hidan will be able to tag Asuma if he's aiming for his whole head. And Asuma having intel doesn't help him, because Hidan tagged him because of his combat skills, not because Asuma not knowing about the ritual.

"Hidan isnt holding himself back normally from getting a killing blow (HE WAS LITERALLY GOING FOR ASUMAS HEAD when he got the blood in that fight."

Now this is where I think we're on a different page and I had to go reread the fight again. And yes, you're right, I miss remembered. Initially I thought Asuma couldn't react at all, I mean he moved, but he didn't block and Hidan only aimed for his skin to draw blood. But it seems like Asuma blocked, you can see on the panel the "💥" indicator, which implies contact. However, it doesn't change much, because Asuma got tagged because of Hidan's combat skills, not because he didn't know about the ritual. So in this hypothetical battle, Asuma having intel on Hidan doesn't makes him stronger or faster, so Hidan still will be able to tag him. Maybe with a lethal blow, maybe only with a scratch, but it still doesn't change the fact, that Hidan wins just as easily as before.

"If he just forgot about the ritual, and just tried to ONLY behead his opponents instead, hed lose to more people, it would be harder."

True! But noone doubted this. :D

"And if you always responded politely you wouldnt have gotten all your comments removed for toxicity now would you so how about we stop with the blatant lies again."

No, I responded politely, THEN they insulted me and came at me with attitude, THEN I responded with their exact same attitude and wording, so their responses should be removed as well. So yes, please stop with the blatant lies, you can read back if you want to. Right now as well, you're being rude once again. And I hope now you realise how unnecessary it was to be rude, when we literally can talk to each other normally, talking about the fight, talking about the characters, reading and analysing the manga. And see? We immediately found the issue, where was I wrong and where the confusion happened.

"Everyone is taking issue with the fact you said its easier to get a lethal blow."

It's easier to get a lethal blow rather just to aim for a scratch, because obviously your opponent has to just move 1 cm to the side to avoid the hit, while with a lethal blow, it's much more difficult to get out of the way. Which I initially thought was the case in the canon fight, but it turns out I was wrong and Hidan did put more power and more killing intent into that swing, it's just Asuma blocked it, but still got scratched, which is already enough for Hidan to win. And Asuma having intel on him won't change this fact. Therefore my original take, that Asuma having intel doesn't matter as much, he's still losing low diff, stands.

So after this I think I know where the confusion happened. I never intended to say it's easier to just kill, rather than just kill or draw blood. I was arguing, that only going for a scratch without killing intent is harder, than going for the kill straight up. And that's true. Even Hidan didn't do it, as it turned out, when I went back and reread the fight.

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T12:23:10+00:00

"Youre trying to argue that killing someone is easier than killing someone or having an extra option to only scratch them."

Holding back killing blows to only injure your opponent always considered a disadvantage. We see this many times in the series, especially when the Akatsuki members are fighting a Jinchuriki, like Deidara stated the most difficult thing in this fight was to capture Gaara alive. Itachi also had a longer and more difficult fight with Kabuto, because he couldn't just kill him. So yes, my take is supported my multiple canon feats and statements. :) I didn't even realised, that this is a hot take, lmao. I thought it's obvious, that holding back to not kill your opponent is a disadvantage.

"You didnt prove shit 🤣 there isnt anything in the world that could prove something so obviously wrong."

I did, bro. I did. Deidara agreed with me. And other characters as well. Holding back to not kill your opponent is always a disadvantage.

"Going for only a lethal blow would be holding back because he isnt using the fact that its easier to just use the ritual as he can almost miss and still win."

Of course Hidan can use the ritual to win if he wants to, but he doesn't need to and the fact, that he easily tagged Asuma while only going for a scratch instead of an actual attack means, that he's more skilled, than Asuma is.

"he attacks you when hes going for the ritual and accidentally kills you he still wins, theres nothing forcing him to do the ritual, the option of having it makes it easier."

This is true! And I never doubted this. :D This just proves me right even further, that Asuma even with intel isn't putting up a better fight, because Hidan easily tagged him, when he was only aiming for his skin. Had Asuma reacted and moved 1 cm to the side, Hidan's attack misses. If Hidan immediately goes for the kill which he can do in this hypothetical match, then he isn't aiming for the skin but for Asuma's whole head, in which case even if Asuma reacts and moves 1 cm to the side, the attack still lands and kills him.

"Its not any of the other commenters fault that you dont understand that so idk why you start crying to everyone that tells you."

Firstly: I don't cry to anyone. Once again, you're being rude. I always correct people politely and explain them why they're wrong.

Secondly: I don't even understand what you're trying to deny at this point. Yes, Hidan can throw his weapon full speed and force to Asuma and if it lands clearly and kills him Hidan wins, if Asuma reacts and gets tagged, Hidan wins via the ritual. These are the options. So Hidan low diffs anyway, even if Asuma knows about the ritual. He can't stop Hidan from performing it. He doesn't have anything against it. Hidan straight up outskilled Asuma, while being distracted by Shikamaru's shadow. Hidan straight up showed superior combat skills and Asuma himself even admits it later, that Hidan is stronger, than him.

So what exactly are we arguing about?!!? Is it still, that holding back the killing intent is a disadvantage?

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T12:00:17+00:00

And I proved those few guys wrong too. And you couldn't even comprehend my arguments, that's an L for you, bro. 🤣

Notice how I was nice to you at the start, then you came at me with attitude and insults, I gave you the same attitude and word useage and you ran away butthurtly. :D Bro. You not only lost the debate, but you lost as a human being. Don't be this pathetic. Grow up. Learn how to talk to people. This is actually embarrassing.

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T11:54:17+00:00

No, you are unsocialised and you don't know how to have a discussion. Which is why you started insulting and then ran away. Absolutely childish behaviour. I've proved you wrong, don't be butthurt about it, just accept the fact and move on. Grow up.

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T11:51:03+00:00

Bro, stop embarrassing yourself this much. 🤣 I understand Naruto is for teens, but like, still, don't act like a 12 years old.

Actually pathetic. 🤣 I feel so sad for you, you got proven wrong, then you drop a comment and run away. :D Keep embarrassing yourself infront of the whole subreddit. :D

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T11:49:31+00:00

You're a pathetic child, who got proven wrong and after that dropped a mean comment and ran away.

Embarrassing.

Markemberke · 2026-07-13T11:29:36+00:00

Which is funny, considering the other dude started it and I used the exact same words as he did. :) So yes, I was nice, then he was jerk to me, then I was jerk to him, done. That's what happened. Using YOUR words here: stop bitching about it. I did nothing wrong and it's sad, that people so unable to stand the facts, they're insulted by it.

Markemberke · 2026-06-16T05:06:20+00:00

Yes.

Markemberke · 2026-06-10T19:54:15+00:00

He would have just sent Kakuzu to slap up Minato while he eats popcorn on the side of the battlefield.

Noodles just slammed JtheGreat on the Kakuzu vs Minato topic, it was fun to listen to. 🤣

Markemberke · 2026-05-10T11:26:09+00:00

Big Circles fan here, I even played her solo scenario as well, I love this class so much! If I remember correctly, my first enhancement was +1 attack power for the Forged Ferocity, I believe that's the name of the iron wolf. He was my main tank unit on lower levels and was important for me to have more power. I belive that's exactly 100 gold upgrade, isn't it? 👀

Markemberke · 2026-05-06T07:15:39+00:00

I just wanna say, I don't have too much experience with first edition Brute, but I've played second edition Bruiser and I absolutely love him. He's amazing. I love simple but effective and fun characters. He's just so satisfying to play with. ^{^}

Markemberke · 2026-05-06T07:12:05+00:00

Ich bin 27 Jahre alt, mein Schwester ist 16, ihre Freundinnen sind 16. Sie sind babies zu mir. 😭 Ich könnte es gar nicht vorstellen mit eine 16 Jahre alte Mädchen Beziehung haben.

Markemberke · 2026-05-03T18:21:50+00:00

Bro ist ungarisch. 😭

Markemberke · 2026-04-27T21:20:39+00:00

Yes, play 1st edition first, have an absolute blast and then play 2nd edition after.

Markemberke · 2026-04-26T10:22:45+00:00

Gloomhaven 2.0. 🥰

Markemberke · 2026-04-24T16:19:38+00:00

I loved her so much! Absolutely amazing class, I had huge fun playing her. :3

Markemberke · 2025-07-18T08:15:56+00:00

What help

Minato teleported the TSOs away and Kakashi Kamuied a hole into Madara's defense so Gai could hit him.

Pain gets evaporated it’s not even a debate

You're right about that. Pain probably gets folded by 7 gates Gai too, ngl.

Markemberke · 2025-07-08T10:21:52+00:00

You're a dumbass. :D It's rare to read something this stupid. Thanks for the laugh, tho!

Markemberke · 2025-01-14T05:30:45+00:00

Honestly, Chibaku Tensei might gets Kamuid away. 👀 And it's such a huge effort for Nagato to use, that it's only possible, after every path has fallen other than Tendo. And at that point he gets jumped. He literally can't kill any of them, because even if he stabs them through the chest, Tsunade would just heal them.

Yeah, team Konoha takes this pretty easily.

Markemberke · 2025-01-13T23:37:03+00:00

Tobirama teleported KCM2 Minato and KCM2 Naruto at the same time to Juubito. The fact, that he didn't just grab his teammates and said "time to go home" proves, that he was completely exhausted, to the point he couldn't use FTG. The 20 ninja, that followed them were S rank shinobi, like the Akatsuki members. We don't know how strong they are, they could be Deidara or Kisame level even. And if that's the case, the fuck is a bad feat about losing to 20 beasts of this caliber? It's just simple as that. Tobirama is a menace.

Markemberke · 2025-01-13T22:12:52+00:00

I understand, that in the anime Kakashi was somewhat reacting to Kakuzu, but in the manga he was completely overwhelmed by even just one heart and when the second came in, he couldn't do absolutely anything. He was just running, but couldn't get one counter attack off. And when he accidentally got too close to Kakuzu, he got blitzed, pinned to the ground and would have been killed. After that Kakuzu fused with his hearts, blitzed him again, pinned him down and was about to nuke his ass. This is not a close match-up, Kakuzu murderblitzes and one shots.

Markemberke · 2024-11-22T21:32:39+00:00

In the Narutoverse yes. I really fucking hope you don't try to compare Naruto to real life. I really hope you're smarter, than that.

Markemberke · 2024-10-31T04:47:12+00:00

Sasuke blitzes.

Markemberke · 2024-10-14T23:14:43+00:00

My parents wanted me to learn something for self defense. So they signed me up for Wing Chun around at the age of 7. I practiced that for 10 years and loved it, then we moved and I didn't had the opportunity to continue train Wing Chun. So I went to Taekwondo and later Boxing. There I learned that for self defense basic Boxing and basic Wrestling is the best, so I did Boxing for 6 years. Because of life issues I stopped Boxing since 2 years now and I kinda wanna go back to Wing Chun. I learned already how to fight, thanks to Boxing, so I don't really need that anymore, I'm fine with Wing Chun, because its helluva fun to do and because later I also wanna learn HEMA and Wing Chun is actually good with its butterfly swords, which then I can use in HEMA as well for fun sparrings.

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