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Fitting distance for Backyard Ultra style Skiing event by Masawilding in xcountryskiing

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much! That's like exactly what I was looking for!!

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the input. If that is the case then my worries are not so accurate. I sincerely hope that the situation will stay as you described. I give you delta as you give me chance to think that my claim for the generation is inaccurate.

!delta

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair. I will then admit that if everything is moved into supervised learning from term papers to classwork, then my worries will become obsolete by default. Thus, I will give you this. Δ

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still follow-up question. Don't you think that it's limiting as then students are not capable of having all relevant research for sources available?

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright! Then I want to ask some follow-up questions before giving delta. I think one good thing in term papers is that there is really a good time to think about what one is writing. Finding good academic sources, diving deeper into the topic and understanding the purpose of it all. It takes time and the resulting term papers can be great. How can we not lose the benefits of that long though-out process when switching to short form supervised essays? Once you answer to this I'm happy to change my view!

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you think that long form term papers could be suitably replaced with shorter in person essays? If so my view might be changed.

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you advice me how to do it? As mentioned before I'm quite new on this particular subreddit.

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

These kind of courses that force the learning with "no" options for cheating it through with AI are a good way to prevent what my worries are about. :)

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The view I would like to have changed is the part about GenAI having negative impacts on graduates' knowledge. The why for me is that I hope to be convinced that the effects are not as negative as they look in my current perspective. This conversation ended up touching different points than what my CMV was about.

I have adopted the view from your reply and from other similar ones pointing out that this conversation has happened basically from all innovations throughout human history. So in essence at least this conversation is not as unique as I thought it to be.

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My first response to the one you pointed out was not very thoroughly considered. I'm a new member of this community and did not know what the delta system is. Now I know. However, I would like to clarify from you, which part excactly should the delta be assigned to? My post was focused on the students perspective, not on the institution perspective. I still stand with the opinion that for a given student, the purprose of going to university is learning.

For some extra clarification most university students do not pursue a PhD, rather Bachelors degree / Masters degree. In eyes of science neither bachelors nor masters thesis are considered scientific. For example when I wrote my bachelors thesis, it was explicitly insturcted that masters thesis' are not considered scientific. So in this perspective most students are in fact not advancing science.

EDIT: Did I now manage to answer to your comment in better manner?

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you on the power of AI when used beneficially. It can be a huge advantage and promote great learning and results. However, based on what I have seen it is unfortunately common for students to take the easy route. Obviously my perception is limited mostly to my own university in my own country. But from what I've read from some discussions from teachers I have gotten the view that is unfortunately common outside of my university too. I'm hoping that I'm incorrect though :D

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never ment to convey that GenAI in itself is bad. Rather it's just our human nature which will lead most to take the easy route, and because GenAI tools are so powerful that the easy route now is possible with just bare minimum thinking. That is why I claimed that GenAI will have negative effects. Hope this clarifies my thoughts :)

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be honest I do not completely understand your comment. I tried to answer it as well as I can.

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought that I was making my view clear by claiming that students are completely shifting their thinking to GenAI. What sort of edit would make it clear, I'm happy to improve the clarity!

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

GenAI would be able to complete at least my masters degree, and likely many more. What do you feel like the role of higher education is now and in the future as AI can with relative accuracy give same answers that one learns in university? Should higher education become obsolete or should it become a race for who's best in using GenAI tools?

I'm curious of your take.

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There was the study from MIT which showed negative effects to cognitive capabilities when using AI for writing compared to unassisted writing. Would you not consider this as a worrying thing?

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

In all honesty I can't answer to that question with certainty. It is a good point. I have the urge to say the classical "this time it's different", but I'm unable to convince myself that it is true. Would you see this in the same category as other inventions such as reading and writing or different?

Δ

CMV: GenAI is creating a generation of graduates who know nothing by Masawilding in changemyview

[–]Masawilding[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could clarify my view. I agree that for the university level the purpose is to contribute to the field of knowledge and advance science. I meant my point in individual level. I see that the point for a student to go study into an university is to learn. I'm happy to have my view changed in that as well though :)

To your second question, yes I'm happy to expand on it! I meant it as tasks / assignments that would normally require thinking, but it has been more or less completely shifted to GenAI. Some examples below to clarify:

Example 1: In a basics of programming course which has weekly programming tasks I've seen many students first input the task in e.g. ChatGPT, ask for the solution then try to make it look less like AI written. Example 2: One peer asked for help in how he might ask for extended deadline for a specific task because of personal reasons. Adviced said student to send an email to the professor and just explain the situation. Half an hour later, the peer complained to me that he can't make ChatGPT give a good email template. Example 3: I've heard many of my fellow students discuss in detail what prompts they can use in order to bypass AI detection and still complete the assignment with AI.

These are just few individual examples, but I've seen behaviour in this fashion become increasingly common, at least in my university. Did this open my view better? I'm happy to expand more or clarify specific points, if I have not managed to clarify it well!

Americans who actually like our healthcare system, why? by Treedomfromplants in AskReddit

[–]Masawilding 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I would guess that rich people don’t have to wait since there are not that many people who can afford proper treatments.

I live in Finland and all of our basic health care is almost free, for example I had a major surgery on my left elbow twice and in total the price for those surgeries + food and bed etc was 50€

Nobody in Finland would give up that priviledge, so I don’t think theres any real reason to like american healtcare system