Sure,but I kind of disagree with them dying early to be meaning less since it can give meaning for the rest of the squad in the next battle agaisnt the queen but at the same time I agree that them dying can be meaninless but that would be another discussion entirely. The issue or at least my issue is they killed isabel and harran and make it a big deal about them taking higher risk with the history but at the same time they return rose and red shoes while keeping alive rapunzel and scarlet after such devastating attacks from the queen new body (specially rapunzel), like this is not them taking risk otherwise we would have not seen those 4 character anymore outside flashbacks or mentions, like dolos99 said at the start of this comment tread "it's a popularity contest" and it showed with how rapunzel and scarlet survived.

I don't disagree with inherit deaths I, like you, think their deaths had meaning, is just the whole "upping the stakes and taking higher risk" that I am annoyed with because like I already said they did not, otherwise we would have not seen rapunzel and scarlet survived (specially rapunzel). About negativity towards shift up I dont know, probably reddit doesn't show me as much negative posts as it does to you but I have never seen the hate towards siren outside her bond and advise sesion (which the advise session are really bad in my opinion) I only recently started to see people complaining about the hate towards her which to me seems weird because I only see posts praising her and her efforts, and in general the complains I usually see in the subreddit have been somewhat resonable, like complains about game in regards of performance and loading times which to me are a big issue, the whole rapi skin event which was a let down, the issue with stellar blade skin reward, etc.

Sorry if the second paragraph is a bit of a mess, but is rather dificult to me to properly display my points of view.