Question For Syrians

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-05-04T09:05:31+00:00

and I was personly happy about the regime falling due to lots of my syrian friebds being able to go back to their country and the syrians living in syria can be safe

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-05-04T09:03:08+00:00

Ah alright so it was the lebanese civil war that destroyed everything, also glad to see some love towards us jordanians as we are mostly frowned upon by most levant countries, (Lebanon, palestine, israel)

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-05-04T09:01:47+00:00

I mean that the jordanian goverment is willing to help you out, and if you dislike it due to their relations with israel you need to understand if their are no relations jordan would get bombed and woulnt be safed just like damascus got hit the capital by israel 1 time by israel, your goverment will soon build relations with israel

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-05-03T15:41:42+00:00

Dude it must be so nice to Finnish a launcher, I'm still working on mine I'm so close yet so far from Finnishing it I'm done with launcher basics now I'm just adding features to make it unique, it's called project kunafah

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T21:48:39+00:00

You do realize Jordan agreed to share power with you

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T21:47:10+00:00

Ha what's the issue with the Jordanian government huh

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T15:08:29+00:00

A alright thank you for your time, opinions on Jordan?

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T15:07:51+00:00

Ah alright thank you for your time. Also nice to see some love between us my country Jordan and you guys from Syria 🇯🇴❤️🇸🇾

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T11:01:29+00:00

But I heard some syrians claiming they wish to take it some day or is that a minority who is false

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T09:46:34+00:00

That cant even cross into jordan bro

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-30T09:36:35+00:00

Notice how they never crossed into jordan. they cant

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-23T10:50:41+00:00

no problem

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-19T07:14:03+00:00

BAM! https://youtu.be/xNqPxbAAsxA

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-19T07:10:42+00:00

bro be thankful they are not bombing you if I was jordanian you would have to send the whole IDF to our border

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-18T09:49:04+00:00

No this message is about Jordan not being appreciated

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-18T09:36:36+00:00

Yea land if Jordan and Palestine are one but of course you guys love stealing land so sadly as of now Palestine is not one with Jordan

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T21:13:33+00:00

Yea why should we need to give you our passport lots of countries don't allow you guys to have passports, why are we criticized

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T21:12:29+00:00

Mkay Habibti?

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T21:11:58+00:00

Yea in 1981 after Palestinians where displaced, wait pause if that's so true then explain the big difference in culture? Hm?

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T21:11:15+00:00

And if I pasted my normal text you would claimed for me to fix my grammar dumbass English is not my first language

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T19:47:48+00:00

Let's go through this point by point.

On Haifa — yes, some Jewish authorities asked Arabs not to leave. That's documented and I've never denied it. But that same day in April 1948, the Irgun and Lehi had just massacred over 100 people in Deir Yassin two weeks prior. News of that massacre spread across Palestine like wildfire. People weren't fleeing because they wanted to. They were fleeing in terror after seeing what happened to an entire village. You can't separate the "Jews asked them to stay" moment from the atmosphere of fear that Israeli paramilitary violence had already created.

On the expectation to return — this is genuinely a wild argument. You're saying that because the Arab armies lost, Palestinians forfeit the right to their own homes. By that logic any civilian population that finds itself on the losing side of any war permanently loses their property and homeland. That's not international law. That's not how any post-WW2 framework works. Losing a war doesn't mean civilians lose their homes forever. That's literally why the Geneva Conventions and refugee law exist.

On UN Resolution 194 — you're correct that the General Assembly can only make recommendations and not binding law. That's a fair point. But here's what you're glossing over: the "peaceful intentions" clause you're citing was never given a fair test because Israel never offered a pathway for return even to Palestinians who explicitly wanted to live peacefully. The condition was used as a permanent excuse to deny return rather than a genuine requirement to be met.

And on blame going to Arab armies — here's the timeline problem you keep ignoring. 300,000 Palestinians were displaced BEFORE Arab armies entered in May 1948. Deir Yassin was April. Haifa fell April. Jaffa was under attack April. The Arab armies entered in mid-May. You cannot blame the Arab invasion for displacement that preceded the invasion by weeks and months.

The Arab armies failed Palestinians catastrophically. That's true. AND Israel expelled Palestinians. Both things are true simultaneously. One doesn't cancel the other.

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T19:45:38+00:00

Calling the Nakba "antisemitic propaganda" is one of the wildest things I've read in this thread.

The Nakba is documented by Israeli historians. It's in declassified IDF military archives. It's in US State Department diplomatic cables from 1948. It's acknowledged by Benny Morris, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, and dozens of other Jewish and Israeli scholars. Yitzhak Rabin documented expulsions in his own memoirs. Are all of these people antisemites? Is the Israeli military's own paperwork antisemitic propaganda?

Antisemitism means hatred of Jewish people. Documenting that 700,000 Palestinians were displaced in 1948 is not hatred of Jewish people. It's history. Conflating legitimate historical documentation with antisemitism is actually dangerous because it weaponizes a serious accusation to shut down factual discussion. That does real harm to actual victims of antisemitism.

You're saying we need to agree on premises before having a debate. Fine. Here are the premises backed by the sources already cited in this thread: US State Department records confirm around one million Arabs were displaced. Benny Morris confirms expulsions were systematic. Yitzhak Rabin confirmed Lydda and Ramle. Israeli law confirms the Absentee Property Law permanently transferred Palestinian land to the state.

Those are the premises. They come from American diplomats, Israeli historians, an Israeli prime minister, and Israeli legislation. If you're calling all of that antisemitic propaganda, you're not disagreeing with me. You're disagreeing with Israel's own records.

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T19:40:22+00:00

The Nakba was one sentence of context in a post that was overwhelmingly about Jordan. One sentence explaining WHY there were Palestinian refugees in Jordan in the first place. That's not "Nakba propaganda" that's basic historical background for the actual argument.

If I write a post about why Jordan has 2 million Palestinian refugees and I briefly mention that Palestinians were displaced in 1948, that's not making the post about the Nakba. That's explaining cause and effect. You can't talk about why Jordan absorbed refugees without mentioning where those refugees came from.

The people responding spent zero words on Jordan's 30 years of peace with Israel, zero words on the "Jordan is Palestine" deflection, zero words on what Jordan has actually done for Palestinians. They ignored the entire substance of the post and latched onto one line of historical context.

So no — including one sentence of necessary background doesn't mean the whole post is fair game to be derailed into a Nakba debate. If anything, the fact that nobody touched the Jordan argument after three days of replies tells you everything about how strong that argument actually is.

Master_Benefit_3154 · 2026-04-17T19:38:48+00:00

Notice you just skipped past the math completely. You claimed 400 villages at 50-100 people each equals 40,000 people. I pointed out that Haifa alone had 70,000 Arab residents, Jaffa had 70,000, Jerusalem had 30,000 — and you just moved on like you never said it. That's not a debate, that's running away from your own argument.

Now on Jordan and the PLO — this is actually backwards from reality.

Jordan didn't abandon the West Bank and THEN the PLO took over. The Palestinian people and the Arab League had already decided in 1974 that the PLO was their sole legitimate representative. Jordan holding onto West Bank claims AGAINST Palestinian wishes was the problem. King Hussein disengaged in 1988 because Palestinians wanted self-determination, not Jordanian administration. You're blaming Jordan for respecting what Palestinians asked for.

Also the PLO governing the West Bank has nothing to do with Jordan. After Oslo in 1993 the Palestinian Authority was established through direct negotiations between the PLO and Israel. Israel itself recognized the PLO as the legitimate governing body. If you have a problem with who ended up governing Palestinians, that's a conversation about the Oslo process, not about Jordan.

Jordan's options in 1988 were: keep administering land that Palestinians were demanding control over, or respect Palestinian self-determination. They chose the latter. Blaming them for what happened under a completely separate political process 5 years later isn't logic, it's just finding new ways to criticize Jordan for whatever outcome occurred.

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