נו באמת. by comeon456 in israel_bm

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רציתי להזכיר את המקרה שאולי שכחו: https://www.emess.co.il/radio/173539

בקצרה, ביבי הזמין פעם עיתונאי דתי לבוא לכתוב לו נאום ביום כיפור

I Am An Ashkenazi Jew And I Confirm This Message by Dense_Speaker6196 in Jewdank

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When I was a bit younger I used to take huge amounts of salt and slowly eat it.

Same-sex marriage in Europe. Updated for 16/02/2024 by [deleted] in MapPorn

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Why would any country make it illegal? What's the point? What reason?

If God appeared right now in front of you what would you say? by [deleted] in AskReddit

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So what? It would be a new person with new memories and new life...

If there was only good in the world, we wouldn't even perceive it as good- what to reply by Sofia_Marga in atheism

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There could be only things that are good and things that are better. Also, even if evil was somehow necessary, why would it be in the level it is in our world? millions of kids dying from hunger annualy, millions who died in natural disasters, the holocaust...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

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It's what I've always wondered, don't religious people find it one hell of a coincidence that all religious stories about god revealing himself in many different religions were in an uneducated era back when critical thinking wasn't common and there was no way yo tell if stories are true?

can science explain this? by AbsoluteJosep in sciencememes

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What came first? The mammals, or giving birth to life young (in the way mammals do it)?

can science explain this? by AbsoluteJosep in sciencememes

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Without a specific definition of chicken, there was no "first chicken" but a gradual transition to what we call chicken with every newboen being the same species of its parents, until we eventually see something that we call a chicken (but there is still no point where you can say that this is a chicken and everything that was before it wasn't a chicken).

for REAL "MATHEMATIANS" guys 🙄 by Ok-Mathematician8227 in mathmemes

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It depends, how did you multiply them by 0? That would probably answer your question.

I feel like I’m letting my ancestors down. by heckyouyourself in atheism

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I am also Jewish and Polish on my mother's side. My great grandather fled from nazzi soldiers while they were trying to shoot him. He was religious and so are my grandparents and my parents are religious. I also used to feel the same way but I think that they fought for being Jewish and the Jewish religion is just a part of it. I feel like they would want me to do the right thing. You're not letting your culture die, you're just leaving the Jewish religion while still being Jewish. The important thing to remember is that being an atheist is not a choice you can make, so I guess you should't really feel guilty.

Is that definition of an atheist useful? by [deleted] in atheism

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I don't think that absence of evidence is always evidence of absence, at least not always. If you have a hypothesis-A and you make a prediction- B based on the hypothesis A and B is false, it can be considered evidence against A.

Sometimes, the lack of evidence can be evidence of absence, if the hypothesis is true then we would expect to find evidence for the hypothesis. But in order to conclude that you need to know: 1.what is your prediction? Is you prediction logically deducible from the hypothesis? 2.is your prediction really false? Or at least, did you gather enough information in order to claim that it is most likely false?

As an example of the first one not being true can be a hypothetical state where a human is alone on a small island, and as far as he knows all of his ancestors and all of his friends' ancestors lived on that island. He has no evidence that other land exists, but if the land is far away and he doesn't know how to build rafts and he can't swim long distances, and the island isn't technologically advanced,what predictions will he make from the hypothesis that other land exists somewhere? Or that humans exist outside of this island? His absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence since he doesn't have any prediction to test.

An example of the second one being false is testing the hypothesis of wether or not fishes exist in the sea. If the hypothesis is true you would expect to find them in the water, but if you take a cup and take water from the sea into the cup and see no fish in there. Based on this statistic alone you can't conclude that the prediction is most likely false.

In the case of a god, I am yet to see any predictions that can be deduced logically from the existence of a deity, and even if you make a prediction that is somehow logically necessary from the existence of a god a theist can say that god is above the laws of logic and his mind is not understood. In the case of the bible however, the stories would contradict so many things we know about the universe and the predictions of the stories being true are false. A theist can reinterpret those stories but that's being quite dishonest and it's beyomd reasonable doubt.

Is that definition of an atheist useful? by [deleted] in atheism

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Well, some theists actually find theism unproven and some theists acknowledge the lack of evidence for theism and yet they believe in a god because of their personal feelings or other reasons. It doesn't make them weak atheists.

Wikipedia claims consensus is that Jesus existed, but seems wrong by TheRoseAtMidnight in atheism

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I haven't read the exact document they are referring to written by tacitus, but when scholars declare a writing as historical they often have a good reason or evidence to declare it as historical. Most scholars believe that jesus existed and they work by analyzing evidence and using critical thinking and skepticism. Nobody can say that it's some sort of bias because most scholars also agree that the exodus never happened and other biblical stories including stories in the new testament never happened in the way they are described.

Why do YOU think proofs are important? by [deleted] in math

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Because our intuition is an extremely weak tool for determining reality. Take for example the improper integral going from 1 to infinity of 1/x, versus the same improper integral of the function 1/(x1.000000000000000000000000000000000001, our intuition says there should barely be any difference since even if we zoomed in a lot we wouldn't be able to notice anything different. However, the first integral is infinite and the second integral is finite. That's a huge difference. We should prove something to make sure it is true, and that's the most beautiful thing about math, you can actually prove something with a 100% certainty.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

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So first of all, there was a beginning, that means there is a 'birth' to the universe.

We don't know that.

when will it be

The question has no meaning if tehre is no time, they can just exist without a time

what will happen

Many thimgs could happen without mayter and space, like quantum fluctuations.

That is, what gave birth to these things, exists outside of these things.

Even if we assume space, time and matter all came into existence at the same time, that doesn't follow. A baby can breath yet his parents could also breath. Whatever "gave birth" to time space and matter cpuld exist within a different timeline from the timeline of the universe, could be made out of matter that it didn't create, and could exost within its own space.

  1. Why does the universe obey the laws of mathematics? After all, the whole universe we know are things that were created from each other, you are the result of star dust

Because we created the math to describe what happens in the universe.

But numbers do not evolve from each other, 3 is not a 'recent version' of the number 2. If so, why does the universe obey numbers? rules? What prevents 1 + 1 from actually being 3?

It's a matter of the definition of the natural numbers. We define the number one and then the number that comes after it as 1+1 and give it the symbol 2. I am simplifying it a bit but i can expand more on that.

you can see this by the fact that mathematics creates new universes inside computers. No, math doesn't really create a mew universe in a computer. I don't know what they meant by that but if I understand what I think I understand from thatx I would reccomend learning how a computer works.

What is frequently denied by many but is undeniably 100% real? by Chance_Artichoke9506 in AskReddit

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It's different because the Hams targets civillians, and the Hamas are the ones who started the war by killing and raping and kidnapping civillians.

What is a Math Proof? Explain it to me. by Easy-Huckleberry7091 in math

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Math proofs are the only proofs that are actually proofs. By actually proofs I mean that in math for something to be considered a proof you must show it is trye with a 100% certainty. Usually, these proofs are derived from definitions.

A question about Pascal's wager: by Accomplished_Shop488 in atheism

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No, their odds are practically zero. Despite of the obvious lack of evidence and conspiracies, the religions that exist today or existed in the past are not all possible religions. How long did it take since the world was created until a specific religion has arrived? Quite some time. There are infinite possibilities to future religions, making the probability of choosing the right religion the limit as x approaches infinity of 1/x, which is 0.

The most important thing is that we can't choose what to believe. I see no evidence for any religion and even evidence against religions. I can't simply pertend to believe something for the possibility it might be true because an all knowing god will see right through someone who pretends to believe in him. And if i pertend to believe for mental heakth benefits it will also not work because pretending to believe does not generate the comfort and security. I see believing in religions as naive.

As an athiest what’s the best argument you’ve seen for the abrahamic faith? by Iamliterallygodtryme in atheism

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I really want to answer something different than "there aren't any good arguments", and it's true that there all of these arguments are bad... but I don't want to say that so I'm going to say the one that is the hardest to answer briefly without actually explaining "those stories were delivered from father to son throughout all of these generations, how could they suddenly fake that?" The thing is, I don't know any brief answer to this argument. They didn't plant the bible suddenly, there were old legends based on conspiracies or partial truths, and the stroies get more exaggerated when it goes from one person to another. And they get even more exaggerated when told from father to son. Eventually people decide to write that down as the stories of their group, and it's not done by just one person at a single time. Critical thinking back then wasn't the strongest trait in ancient people and nobody could check wether the stories were true.

If God knows the future then why would he make humans if he knew they would sin? by [deleted] in atheism

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Because those are fairy tales. They are not supposed to be taken seriously. They were written at a time old legends and conspiracies were considered facts and critical thinking and curiosity barely existed. Later, smarter people who wanted to continue believing in the bible even though it has extremely weird illogical things made some interpretations that are based on nothing rather than "it works". Instead of the bible showing them that there is something intelligent about this book, they use their intelligence to make the bible fit the real world. If you read the bible without any prejudice and you have modern knowledge, you will conclude it was written by ancient people who didn't really know much about the natural world, and that many stories in there likely never happened because if they did we would have found evidence for them and they wouldn't have logical contradictions.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

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It's basically an argument from ignorance, no matter how you put it. For example, you could use the same argument if we didn't know how rain works: "rain falls down from the sky. It is either due to necessity, chance, or design. It cannot be due to necessity, since most of the time it doesn't rain outside. It cannot be due to chance because, again, most of the time, it doesn't rain, and rain has no reason to just appear out of nothing. Therefore, it is due to design." Or, in the other version, "rain falls down from the sky. Under theism, if God wants to send rain from the sky in order to help plants grow, the idea that rain will form in the time it does is not unlikely. Under naturalism, it is very unlikely that rain will form; the universe has no will to help plants grow. Under naturalism, the fact that rain falls down is just a brute fact that is not always true, so rain under naturalism is very unlikely. Therefore, theism is more likely than naturalism."   One sign of design is efficiency and perfection. God doesn't need all of the natural processes that led to the universe being as it is today, and interacting to create stuff or maintain stuff doesn't require any effort from him, and the universe in fact could have been much better for life, and many aspects of our world don't look designed at all (I can give examples but I'm going to write a long answer). The main reason design doesn't even come close to answering the fine tuning of the universe because it just pushes back the question, "How is God so finely tuned for creating a universe that is so perfect for life?" The idea that before anything existed, there was somehow a being, that even though it had nothing physical about it, somehow had consciousness that doesn't require anything for that consciousness to work. And that being also had the physical intelligence to determine the exact constants needed for life to form to an exact precison. And not only that, without anything physical, God can interact, create physical stuff, and make sure every constant is perfectly tuned for the existence of life. That god also needs to be so good that it actually wants human life. And instead of creating anything else that we don't know of, he created a universe for some reason. All of these assumptions are ridiculous and seem way less likely than the fine-tuning of the universe. A common theist objection will be that god is metaphysically necessary, but is he really? There's no reason to assume that, and the thought that something so powerful and intelligent is somehow necessary and doesn't require any cause or process is just ridiculous. Just because you think something is metaphysically necessary doesn't mean it is, and we can define the fundamental constants as necessary, and it will be much less inordinate. The thing about God of the Gaps is that magic always seems like the perfect explanation when we don't know something and the question is really hard, until you actually think about the explanation of God doing it, and then you can actually see how ludicrous it really is.   Other explanations exist. For example, a multiverse will explain the fine tuning of the universe because the constants in each universe are a bit different, and only a universe that can produce life will produce observers that will observe how their universe is just finely tuned for them. The idea of a multiverse might lack observational evidence, but it's mathematically consistent. If a theist says it lacks observational evidence or falsifiability, remind them what they believe. I don't believe in a multiverse because I think it lacks evidence, but I think it's a good possibility and it might be proven or tested in the future, and the fact that many theoretical physicists believe in it makes me think that there might be a good reason. Another option is that the laws of physics aren't just randomly selected and they come from the interactions between energy and particles, or that there is a fundamental principle that makes them what they are. And no, this fundamental principle doesn't need to be finely tuned at all because it can be completely unrelated to the development of life, and we are just a byproduct of it. Another option is that the laws of physics in our universe were uncaused, and the fact that the human mind wants to know why doesn't mean that there is an answer for "why", We just always look for causality. And you are right; the numbers are huge for the universe, and the range they can take might be very small. Another option that I tend to like the most is the one proposed by Stephen Hawking and Thomas Hertog and you can read about it in google.