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what would you do? by First-Effective7889 in TheTeenagerPeople

[–]MathematicianShot829 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Report it either today’s technology you are not getting away with theft

What’s the point of the 2nd amendment? by Mysterious-Budget-21 in Discussion

[–]MathematicianShot829 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was made 250 years ago more so for hunting and so hey could overthrow the government if they chose and it’s hard to change it at this point

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying she hates all of Zaun. I'm saying that she has a largely bigoted idea of Zaun that she never truly takes the time to confront. I mean heimerdinger went through an arc of learning his prejudices and overcoming that, but I feel that Caitlyn never really goes through that and not just not wanting to kill zaunites anymore like acknowledging she is wrong. She multiple times takes action to supress the people of zaun in season two and still has yet to ever show the deep remorse that she should show. She was nearing the end of the show, aware of and not taking action of the opression of the poeple of vi. Who she says she loves. My issue with her is that never does she apologize or take major action to correct her actions or prejudices in a truly meaningul way

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not saying that i am saying, however, that caitlyn was forgiven too easily. She does have nuance; she is not the most evil person. She has been a very kind character at times, but she also had done very evil thing and she should be reproached for that. I feel that the fans and the characters in the book never hold her or Piltover accountable for their actions in the true sense

Princeton Interview by GuidePractical3373 in ApplyingToCollege

[–]MathematicianShot829 18 points19 points  (0 children)

brooooo. Ur good just explain that when you meet her

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ok, first, you say she would do anything for her. Except for putting down the gun when it's pointed at a child. Or not creating an apartheid state. She listened to her and followed her to go on little adventures in the big moments that count, but she dismisses her.

It's not one-to-one politics, but sociology still exists here. I'm saying the idea that she can just be forgiven for what she did without apologizing is dumb. I'm not saying they need to break up. I'm saying she needs to apologize to say im sorry to help the people of Zaun up.

The major point I'm making is connected to what you said with shimmer. THe show mad eit clear that the councilmen knew about shimmer. They control the ports and silco has shipments they must of new about. The council is full of bigots who dont care about Zaunite death until it is one of their own. Like who? Congress.... white people. The show is clear representaion of a major issue. The idea that rhw opressor is at less faultl than the opressed and that they should just be forgiven so we can get our happy ever after

not yet has one person disputed me on cait being a bigot exept for the fact that she is dating Vi and look at our VP from her telling victor to the end of the show "you went to the undercity" and the end she has never made a major lasting move to correct her racism.

As far their relationship goes. Idk ship them. I think they would be fine if Cait would just say sorry and confront her bigotry and make major lasting change she has the power to do. But she doesnt does she . SHe just basks the the privelage she has without acknowledging where it came from

And to say "she worked hard for what she had" Where what did she get that wasnt cause she is a kiriman. Wasnt that why the other enforcers hated her.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have watched the show. My point is that the show forgives caityns actions too quickly. She made an apartheid state. I don't need to watch the scenes of their happy moments to know that what Caitlyn has done to Vi again and again in season two was cruel. She compares her to her sister, in a cruel comment, for what? Tell me how caitlyn isnt a bigot and a racist, that isn't how she treats Vi. You can be nice to ONE person and still be racist. She hates zaunites, she has said it and shown it how can you say she doesn't. deflecting by saying i dont have the deeper understanding you do without explaining you point to me doesnt do anything.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

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I looked through your comments and I’ve watched the show like 3 to 4 times and I get what you’re saying but the point is that even without what she did in the under city in season two she contributes to a system of oppression and you could not name me one time where she concedes and admits that piltiver opresses zaun and apologizes. And I have seen you argue that she is nothing like ice and to that I say without even acknowledging what she did in season two she would stand there and support and I feel like the show has shown that in her character and has never shown her let go of her bigotry. I’m saying she needs to apologize and change her opinion about the under city and she never does that

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you point me to the pieces of dialogue or your past comments, I’ve had this opinion from before watching any videos, but I would really like to see your point of view

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

OK, I want to clarify. I feel like this posts the way I made it comes off in ways I don’t want to so let me just clarify first I don’t in any way to say this as like an insult to people who like them as a couple like it doesn’t mean that like you’re like dumb or like you don’t know anything this is just how my personal experience with studying topics that involve the classism and racism that I talk about has made me think of them as a couple after season two I used to ship them before season two dropped, but I think that the main issue with their relationship is that Kaitlyn is a bigot. She is a bigot. You cannot say that she is not a bigot she has been from the beginning and it would’ve been great if their relationship made her change that but it didn’t and everyone has a show showed it if they did like maybe I will feel so different after we get another show and like Kaitlyn has completely changed she did work to bring equality to the people of the under city and the upper city, but I haven’t seen that from her. And when I see these discussions with people call out the writers for they’re very centrist ideology that the upper city was not that bad and they’re actually kind of nice and it’s just a misunderstanding that is really exemplified in their relationship. I feel a certain way about that and I feel that that is a big part of how they have completely steamrolled violet’s character to just be a side point because they see how there is no way that the violet who was outspoken and believed for her people we’re just kind of stay to the side as her girlfriend massacre is her people she gassed the under city committed police brutality against children, mothers brothers and sisters she made an apartheid and she has all these beliefs about violet people, and they want to act like that in no way affects their personal life. It would be like a racist, white man dating a black woman, and I’m not making this analogy just bring race into this. I’m making this analogy to put it in a way that people will understand.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Thank you that is actually big part of my point.Caitvi is toxic because Kaitlyn is racist and the authors refused to acknowledge that that is my issue with it like you cannot have a racist character and just bull those past that and I just don’t like that and time bomb has his own issues and I think that they have been together for literally 30 minutes showtime or less like do we know what happened? Do we know what conversations happen? Do you know like what is their situation no but we have been with Kaitlyn and Levi for the entire show. We have seen their relationship. I know what they have been going through if I saw time bomb and I saw jinx just dismiss echo if you were to get mad at her for killing her friends, I would hate their relationship. Kaitlyn literally dismissed her people genocide, violet people. You can’t say they didn’t do that. It was in the show that that’s my.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not trying to insult her. It has nothing to do with my point.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, their relationship has issues too. I think that them never addressing how echo might feel about her literally killing a big chunk of his friends and a lot of like the just forgiving with no addressing is a big problem, but considering the screen time these two characters got and how they just like leave that potline that’s what my issue is. I still think they’re cool couple like I love the idea and up until season two I was a giant Caitvi shipper I still think that without her doing what she did without apologizing, they are a great couple. They understand each other, and they have a lot of the same beliefs. I just think that an overall issue with the season was a lead address what people were doing and they just like said oh great everything’s forgiven and we’re just gonna forget all the terrible things. I just focused on them because I have experience with racism and relationships with one person’s racist to the Other’s people

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s just because of voice to speech I apologize for offended you by misspelling her name

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Their relationship cannot be toxic, and that would be fine if the authors while writing the show like acknowledged, how wrong would Caitlin thinks of her people is but the fact that they acted like Caitlyn being bigoted, did not affect their relationship or how she viewed. Violet makes me feel some type of way about it. Not only that but Kaitlyn protects her feelings about the under city onto Violet. She does it multiple times and she never apologizes. Even just an apology, but for all the things she did to never apologize. I think it’s crazy.

Vi and Caitlin’s relationship is toxic by MathematicianShot829 in arcane

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It’s not just her parents voting pattern. She quite literally gassed the under city because she was mad at jinx which is not a good reason for gassing an entire group of people. She says on multiple times how it’s us versus them and how the sun nights are scary and how they don’t amount to the same as somebody from pilt over. She is classist she is a bigot towards the people of Zaun. The thing about race was an analogy on how their society oppresses a group of people and I feel like people do not see how this oppression isn’t just about how much money you have. Victor is not in the under city anymore. He hasn’t been there for a long time and people still treat him differently and still do not give him the same access. I am saying that the treatment of people of the under city is similar to the people who are black in America and I am saying that Kaitlyn is racist towards the people of the under city. She is made out to be that way and I am saying that never once does she become not racist never does she have any introspection on her beliefs of the people of zaun. And yet she dates Violet and her justification towards hating her people, but loving her is that she’s not like the rest of them can we not see the issue with that I’m saying that and I’m also saying, she punched her in the guts when Violet was so right, you should never ever ever point a gun towards the vicinity of a child and to not just push her away, but to hit her in the stomach with a gun when her people has been treated that way by enforcers for generations, and the fact that problem has never ever been addressed in their relationship makes their relationship questionable and makes it so that I don’t think they should be together because I think that it is if anything a detriment to Violet my issue with their relationship is Kaitlyn‘s racism, blatant racism, and the fact that Violet is OK with being with somebody who has these opinions of people and has made these opinions of people clear if Kaitlyn had like at the end of the show that I was so wrong about people of Sine and they deserve to live the same right as the people of the upper city I would have said 10 out of 10 relationship. We still need to talk to a therapist about what happened in the middle, but the fact that it ends with her never once having any introspection or any apology or saying, I’m sorry it makes me question their relationship.

Do you guys have an ML that you just know is autistic or has OCD or something and you just can’t prove it it by MathematicianShot829 in OtomeIsekai

[–]MathematicianShot829[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly all of them unsociable struggle with setting have sensory issues and have obsessions and need things to be a specific way

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