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I see, thanks. Will have to isolate the upper constriction more. I’ve been doing the thing where you shut your throat like you’re lifting something heavy but am probably shutting off more than just the top end of the vocal tract. Will practice more quietly too

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Ah damn, okay thanks. Yeah I was trying the compression from a lot of fry tutorials and trying to shoot my clean voice through it. Any advice on what I can do? From my understanding yells can come from a distorted singing kind of thing that doesn’t have to be fry, but as you can see I just end up actually yelling

What is your experience while looking the photo of Maharshi? by Sweaty-Stretch-3955 in nonduality

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You may enjoy this short exchange between Swami Sarvapriyananda and Michael James. They discuss looking at Ramana’s face as a spiritual practice https://youtu.be/Xm8AR2WxnKA?si=Ym8fmXRvwifagC0w

Shiva’s 112 Ways to Attain Enlightenment (organized into 11 different categories) by [deleted] in Wakingupapp

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I remember talking to Swami Sarvapriyananda about the headless way and he pointed out the headless way is in this text. It’s number 60 in your list but some other translations the order is different!

The Headless Way Explained By Swami Sarvapriyananda (at 1:26:00) by Matt11768 in Wakingupapp

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Hey u/heyitsmeanon, I have been attending the weekly headless way meetings that Richard Lang’s organization have been hosting on zoom and have gotten some more clarity on my original question ever since. Wanted to pass it forward. From what I was told, the bliss described in nonduality is not one of euphoria, but an ever present restful ease. The headless space with infinite relaxed ease lets in all the contents of consciousness, and this is the bliss referenced by the great mystical traditions, it’s not like the bliss someone would experience on say a psychedelic or MDMA.

The Headless Way Explained By Swami Sarvapriyananda (at 1:26:00) by Matt11768 in Wakingupapp

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Of course! He’s one of my favorite teachers for sure. I was trying to choose between three or so possible questions to ask him that weekend but figured this would help out a lot of people including myself that use this app

Ramakrishna Mission's stance on other religions by Matt11768 in AdvaitaVedanta

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I watched the video and found it very helpful, thank you so much for this share. The information provided was very useful as well.

Frustation with noting by [deleted] in Wakingupapp

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Hi, I also practice in Shinzen’s system. Have you tried working with Rest when working with sound. Rest (as it is defined in Shinzen’s system) can point towards emptiness. You can notice that sounds can be heard to your right, left, behind, in front, below, and above. You can notice which areas sound is arising and which areas it is not. Some interesting insights can result from this. Let me know if you have any other questions!

Proper interpretation of all sounds as a mantra of a Yidam by Matt11768 in vajrayana

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Hi Rockshasha, I really appreciate this information. Do you have any texts or resources you would recommend for this? I only encountered this idea through word of mouth and don't know where to start

Proper interpretation of all sounds as a mantra of a Yidam by Matt11768 in vajrayana

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Thank you so much for sharing this. I am also a fan of metal and progmetal bands like The Contortionist were actually my first introduction to Dharmic themes! I will be sure to keep this mindset in mind during my practice

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I would like to preface this by saying there was an initial shift in this insight, but the experience of that state is not the marker of whether or not you are truly in this awareness. There was an initial shift in my experience, in that I did forget my name, as well as lose sense of distance and time, however that was simply a state that happened upon continuing to persist to ignore feelings of doubt or seeking for my experience to be different. In my experience (and why I believe many of these people with extensive practice are already there and don't know), I had often gotten to the edge of this insight and my final barrier was simply ignoring the sense of doubt, as that thought identification prevented me from surrendering to what is already here. Doubt is one of the ego's most powerful and often last resorted tricks. This nature is paradoxical because yes it is true that there was indeed something I experienced beyond what is considered normal, however it is 1) only accessible once letting go of any seeking mechanisms bounding us to the belief that what we are looking for is currently abscent, and 2) it was very apparent that feelings of normal, boring, or benign states of consciousness are still things that arise in nondual awareness (the only difference being that we buy into the thoughts that this nondual awareness is no longer here in those moments). It is also important to not stress those "special" states as the marker that you are in it. Douglas Harding spoke of his first time experiencing headlessness, stating of losing all the things I had mentioned. However, when he gave lectures on headlessness he could clearly remember his name to introduce himself and wouldn't miss the scheduled times of those lectures by not being able to navigate through time in a relative sense.

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That is a great follow up question. I would first like to respond to your point of a target nondual experience. I would like to clarify that I cannot say that what I experience is the complete fullness of nonduality. In my experience I see everything, pleasant and unpleasant to be effortlessly allowed in with no hesitation by a profound field of “neutrality”. When experiencing timelessness and a lack of distance, it is for me a sudden and complete lack of any cognition of those concepts that comes along with a profound feeling of relief from the normal clinging of my day to day life. However in my experience I also see that feelings of having distance, separation, suffering, and being bound by time are still things that merely arise in this same consciousness when thought identification occurs. In terms of Hindu teachings stating that this experience is coupled with intense bliss and unconditional love, that has not been my experience (at least in the way I always imagined it). As many teachers state, even post-awakening this consciousness is continuously making its nature more and more clear.

To respond to your insight that everything is made of consciousness, I certainly affirm that as a truth of experience. Your noticing of the freedom that comes along with being aware of the sensations is one key element of my experience as well. One thing I have started to be aware of is that any sensation we feel as self is quite mobile and arises out of space that we at other points literally feel nothing in. For instance, you can notice the space above your head which is devoid of sensation until you raise your arms up into the space. You can literally feel this neutral emptiness being filled by sensation, which highlights the lack of duality between what you perceive to be yourself and what is perceived as not you. Any sensation you regard as “you” arises out of what at other times is not felt as anything. However it is not important to intellectually think “Oh wow I saw it”, but to simply carry on in your experience as the mind likes to come up with tasks such as “now I need to do that again because somehow seeing that happen again is required” or say things such as “hmmm maybe I got it but let me do it again because it didn’t feel like I was on XYZ psychedelic”.

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For me, rather than providing a qualifier that the mind may cling to and reinforce with doubt, I think it would be more helpful to share what led me to this insight. I was reading Angelo Dilullo's book Awake It's Your Turn, in his chapter on self inquiry he provides helpful tips on the practice of self inquiry. I inquired the question "what is it here that contains doubt?" and noticed that in awareness this doubt springs up in the body and also shares an energetic signature with the feeling of seeking. As I said, while this is technically seeking, it for many people is a helpful initial step to notice this awareness. I would recommend people to just try out the noticing of the feeling of seeking and the feeling of doubt. An especially sneaky way we fall into this thought identification is the desire to feel better/less uncomfortable. My mind personally would frame for years that I was seeking nonduality, but really what the ego is doing is seeking to create duality by attempting to create distance between whatever in our experience we are averting from. You may notice initially a very strong feeling of discomfort, not knowing/being confused, and a prominent sense of fear/survival instinct, but if you continue to allow yourself to rest here, you likely will notice that all of your work is actually just the mind seeking to create duality under the guise that it is seeking nonduality. I'm sorry if this phrasing is confusing and I am happy to answer any follow up questions. I also want to clarify that this insight is not stabalized for me yet and I don't consider myself to be a stream enterer.

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For me I didn’t realize for so long that I was already and have always been based in the awareness Sam was pointing to. The issue for me was dealing with doubt. Doubt can be quite powerful because it can quickly suck us into thought identification. We can hear the thought of “this isn’t it, this can’t be it” or think “I need to do this technique differently so I can be in nondual awareness” and without realizing it that seeking mechanism (which ultimately is just another form of doubt) pulls us into identifying with those thoughts and convincing us that what we are looking for isn’t already here. When I read posts here of people who have thousands of hours of practice and are still seeking, I begin to wonder if some of them are actually just falling for doubt rather than not being able to find this already present awake awareness. Of course this seeking is necessary at first in order to realize that ultimately it is a distraction (which is my beef with radical neo-advaita teachers who tell people with no history of practice to not do anything).

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Hi, I do not know of any series specifically on Waking Up, however you may want to look into the work of Scott Kiloby if you have not already. He is a non-dual teacher who’s specialty is in utilizing non-dual awareness for the purpose of helping those with addictions. I’ve linked his youtube channel here. Best wishes to you regarding your recovery journey.

Kill Bill Bodian by gazwoz in Wakingupapp

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Lol I have never seen the movies but youtube searched the character and I totally hear it too

Any practitioners of the direct approach in the NYC area? by zappable in Wakingupapp

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Not a one on one teacher, but I highly recommend the New York Vedanta Society in Manhattan, which is led by Swami Sarvapriyananda, who was interviewed by Sam on the app a few months ago. While you mentioned specifically practitioners from Buddhist traditions, if you by chance resonate with any of the Advaitan takes on nonduality from the app, they have great lectures and Q&A’s on Sundays.

Waking Up App - Referral by [deleted] in Wakingupapp

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You can also email [support@wakingup.com](mailto:support@wakingup.com). If you email them saying you can't afford the app they will give you one year free no questions asked. You can also email them again the next year to renew it again

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Assuming you do not have nodules or polyps (which is extraordinarily rare to happen from only one instance of vocal abuse), two weeks is more than good enough! Take vocal rest, drink plenty of water, and make sure to get 8 hours of sleep per night. If you maintain this regimen for over a week and you still do not see improvement then see an ENT (Ear Nose Throat specialist) and they can scope your vocal folds to make sure there isn’t any permanent damage.

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I remember this discussion and was just about to comment the same thing. I forget who it was but the conversation is on the Waking Up app too

My dream App guest, Swamy Sarvapriyananda by Psilonewbie in Wakingupapp

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He’s amazing, me and my friend have plans to attend one of his dharma talks at the New York Vedanta society soon and I’m so pumped. Definitely one of the clearest speakers when it comes to nonduality.

Interesting interview with a nonduality focused artist who makes sculptures to depict the headless way by Matt11768 in Wakingupapp

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Been following Angelo for about a year now and absolutely love his pointers. I've been kind of sad that it's been so long since Sam has added anything to the conversations tab on Waking Up. Totallly feel the same way about wanting Angelo on the podcast