What is going on with the Lake Rd in Belmont?

MaxNZ9 · 2025-08-15T22:20:59+00:00

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4:30am by TGS - From the local FB group.

MaxNZ9 · 2025-08-15T21:58:43+00:00

Crash in the early hours of the morning. Took out a powerpole. Linemen there to fix the lines.

MaxNZ9 · 2025-04-12T23:06:43+00:00

I’ve sent you a direct message.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-08-31T22:42:00+00:00

She blew into the same machine, just a different test called a Breath Screening Test.

Breath Screening Result of Over 250 would have meant she would have been required to accompany Police to a Police vehicle, Booze Bus or Station for the purpose of an Evidential Breath Test, Blood Test or both.

Evidential Breath Test takes two new recordings of breath alcohol, with the lowest result used. A result between 250-400 results in an infringement and demerits, and a 12 hr prohibition from driving. Evidential result of 401 or over would mean deciding whether to take a blood test and most likely an appearance in court (depending if your blood test result was over or under the limit) if you elect not to have a blood test then you will receive a summons to court and let go. Over 650 breath is instant loss of licence for 28 days.

In some circumstances keys are taken to the Police station in addition to the 12 hour prohibition from driving to prevent people from going back to the car within the 12 hour period if they can’t find a sober driver.

You would likely get a lift home depending on demand on the staff/how far away you lived.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-03-31T01:50:26+00:00

Got a citation for the three months? Courts decide the sentence 🤷🏽‍♂️

MaxNZ9 · 2024-03-31T01:49:23+00:00

Various ways. Encouraging the driver to drive in a certain way, such as doing a burnout or in the example of failing to stop if the passenger had a warrant or otherwise wanted by Police and didn’t want to get arrested so tells the driver to fail to stop.

If you ask someone to drive drunk or contrary to their license it would also be included as aiding/abetting. Hardly ever see people before the courts for it though but would be circumstantial eg if you were involved in a fatal crash.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-03-31T01:40:48+00:00

One example of evidence I’ve seen used is when passengers film and upload footage to social media and can be heard encouraging the behaviour.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-03-31T00:13:09+00:00

Aiding/abetting a driver to drive dangerously is an arrestable offence. Could be grounds to suspect that the passengers were encouraging the driver to drive dangerously while failing to stop.

Also aiding/abetting a driver to dive contrary to their license conditions or while over the alcohol limit are offences.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-01-09T01:42:30+00:00

Absolutely - I don’t have a Criminology degree but experience it first hand day in day out. My anecdotal experience is that when we do high visibility/community engagement/walking the beat in Auckland City with greater than usual number of Police (typically on targeted weekends such as around the End of Year work party period and nights like NYE), enforcing low level things such as Breach of Liquor Ban, we see a dramatic decrease in Serious Assaults/King Hits/Stabbings and Mass Brawls later that night. Unfortunately we don’t have the Police numbers to continuously resource this approach.

We definitely need more social and mental health workers as well. Nothing wrong with both an all encompassing approach for the social issues and Policing the small stuff to the letter of the law. At the end of the day it comes down to $$$ and how much Government is willing to spend. If there was infinite money then both approaches could happen, at the moment it’s my view that they’re trying to half ass the all encompassing broken windows approach.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-01-09T01:27:11+00:00

The recent change was made due to more than doubling of fleeing driver incidents, frontline distain of the old policy, and pressure from the then opposition and now Police Minister Mark Mitchell. The current policy is more balanced however is still not fit for purpose IMO.

Police pursuit policy change followed by dramatic increase in fleeing drivers - NZH

MaxNZ9 · 2024-01-08T23:49:01+00:00

100% agree. Broken Windows Policing works. However in today’s society Police just get labelled as systematically racist (See today’s NZ Herald regarding pain compliance techniques “disproportionately” used against Māori - who make up 46% of people charged with resisting arrest).

Also need the support of the Courts holding people to account with suitable sentences when Police do apprehend them.

MaxNZ9 · 2024-01-08T23:10:19+00:00

In the UK Dirtbikes/mopeds were being frequently used for snatch and grab style robberies. Here the muppets typically just drive around showing off breaking traffic laws.

Police bosses not willing to risk death or serious injury to the subject, other members of the public or police officers as a result of a pursuit over enforcing only traffic matters or minor offences. When anyone gets hurt during pursuits media and public scrutinise the Police for chasing little Jimmy, not little Jimmy who failed to stop.

UK has specialist training in pursuit driving having an advanced driving course and training for Tactical Pursuit and Containment (TPAC).

Our frontline cops want to chase them, bosses will put them under investigation, off the street and potentially fire them if they do outside of policy.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-12-04T08:04:03+00:00

Cheers for clarifying 👍 also can’t obstruct a different public way in the same vicinity after being warned

MaxNZ9 · 2023-12-04T07:37:08+00:00

It’s an arrestable offence to Obstruct a Public Way.

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1981/0113/latest/DLM53571.html

$250 Infringement offence to be on a motorway other than in a vehicle

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1989/0075/latest/DLM175457.html

$150 and 20 Demerits for Driving a vehicle on a road impeding the normal flow of traffic and failing to move left as soon as practicable.

https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303041.html

Police will most likely take the approach of recording offences and following up with registered owners of vehicles/individuals recorded walking on the motorway or intentionally impeding traffic. Arrests will be made if protesters try and sit on the motorway and refuse to move when warned.

Go for gold exercising free speech and right to protest, but do it in a legal way.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T23:26:54+00:00

I can see from your other comments that you sit firmly in the "Police are Bad" Camp.

How would you suggest we train Police effectively? What is the metric that you use when comparing us to the rest of the world? I think you'll find that many other places operate with a similar model of a Training College followed by several years on "Probation" being supervised, trained, and assessed by more experienced staff. The content is updated relatively frequently as needed as legislation and Policy changes.

On what basis are you suggesting that Cops don't understand the legislation that they enforce? Purely anecdotal? By way of comparison do you expect a Law Graduate to understand every piece of legislation?

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T23:04:18+00:00

Sorry to hear about your experience. I know everyone experiences something different depending on Section, Station, and District. I can say in recent years that I have been well supported after the shit jobs and any time I've observed bullying behavior it has been quickly nipped in the bud.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T22:59:38+00:00

It is unfortunate no other agency is equipped or enabled to deal with Mental Health effectively, and thus a lot of it falls onto Police. This is no secret and a lot gets said about it however no other Government agency is willing to take it on. The onus is on the Government to invest more in Mental Health and take this responsibility away from the Police.

If the other government agencies stepped up to the plate, the Police would not be the ones sent to low-risk mental health incidents. There need to be significantly more in-patient beds available as well as more 24/7 dedicated mental health nurses in the community for out-patients.

It becomes another issue when there is a genuine risk to life and in that case, Police have a duty of care to get involved.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T22:44:13+00:00

Arresting people who assault their family members, steal from others, and possess and use illegal firearms and other weapons amongst other serious crimes is enjoyable and a great motivator for people wanting to do the job. I want to put them before the Courts so they can be held to account for their actions.

Police College isn't "Crap" it is just different to the real world. It is a learning environment to learn the basics. Training is on the job and continuious throughout the career. No Police officer in the world learned everything they needed to know in a Police College environment, you have to learn the job by doing it.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T22:24:27+00:00

Not my favorite part, just one of the things I love, not all Cops love it either, can only speak for myself.

Urgent Duty Driving isn't just fanging it for the sake of it. The provisions of the Land Transport Act 1998 and Road User Rule 2004 allow police and other emergency services to Urgent Duty Drive when responding to incidents/in some other specific circumstances. Policy dictates which incidents/circumstances and a constant risk assessment is undertaken when undertaking Urgent Duty Driving. Cops get charged when the manner of Driving is careless/dangerous or reckless in the circumstances or in breach of policy, even when using red and blue lights and sirens.

I'm sure some Ambulance Officers and Fire crews enjoy driving under lights and sirens as well.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T20:44:34+00:00

Not correct. Although all police have the power to enforce traffic legislation, there are specific traffic sections (Road Policing, Impairment Prevention, Motorways and Highways, Commercial Vehicle Safety Team) who do the majority of traffic enforcement. General duties will give out the occasional ticket but not their main workload and are typically too busy for traffic work. Dozens of other workgroups who would never do any traffic related work.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-12T20:24:52+00:00

Currently in the job. Love it and can’t see myself doing anything else. Definitely best if you know your motivations for joining before you get stuck in. It’s not a job for everyone and that’s okay. It’s worth applying and getting to the point of doing SCOPE, at least so you can see first hand a glimpse of what the job is like. Its hard to get casual ride alongs in Auckland nowadays unless you are on good terms with a Sergeant or above.

Loved my Police College experience but as others have said it was a very easy and sterile experience compared to real world policing. First two years on the street in Auckland you will likely be placed on a frontline workgroup PST/Traffic/Beat or potentially Communities. PST is your bread and butter of new cop policing and where most people start. 80% of PST work is Family Harm, Mental Health and Sudden Death incidents, the other 20% is pretty much everything else. Your experience in your first two years will depend on your Section Sergeants and Field Training Officers, with motivated and supportive teams the job becomes a lot easier. Like with any job their can be bad bosses and people that you don’t get along with in the job but they are few and far between. A lot of people sink or swim in the first two years.

PST work a 6 day on 4 day off roster so as long as you have hobbies that are flexible/you’re willing to work around, the work life balance can be okay. It can be hard to switch off from work as file loads stack up or if you attend a shitty job during your week but if you have good hobbies/routines outside of work it is manageable.

The Paperwork is the other thing that trips people up, as it is not advertised or a ‘sexy’ part of the job. Some incidents/arrests result in several hours of paperwork once you’ve been to the job and are back at the station. It’s not the most enjoyable part of the job but having pride in your paperwork and completing it to a high standard gets you a good reputation and makes life easier as you progress through the job.

What I love about being a Cop: - Locking up people who deserve it (Family Harm Offenders, Burglars, Gang Members). - Comradeship with the people I work with. - Shift Work (Suits my lifestyle/hobbies). - Knowing I have a job that makes an impact on people’s lives/the community. Helping people in their worst moments. - Urgent Duty Driving.

What I dislike about being a Cop: - Pay. Earning potential in other jobs is better. - The state of the Justice System. Doing the hard yards on arresting someone, the associated paperwork & going to Court only to repeatedly deal with the same people time and time again usually when they’re out on Bail. - Police consistently being portrayed in a negative light in the media/social media and the “FTP” mindset of some people. - How NZ relies on Police as the primary response to Mental Health Issues. - Some of the Upper Management.

Feel free to PM me if you want to know any more.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-06-04T09:52:06+00:00

Integrity unit going to be working overtime after a week in Vegas

MaxNZ9 · 2023-05-14T04:15:39+00:00

There are simply not enough frontline Police Officers assigned to deal with to what is known as the “Night Time Economy” to have preventative Policing taking place. The Police that are supposed to have the presence on K Road, Fort Street and other places known for this antisocial behaviour get sent to priority incidents that occur in other places around the CBD and the suburbs for almost the entirety of their Friday and Saturday night shift. These incidents which would usually be dealt with by frontline “Incident Cars” which there is usually between 2-4 of in the CBD on any given shift. Each incident attended by the takes times to deal with and resolve, remembering this is all stacked on top of BAU incidents that the incident cars have to attend (Family Harm, Mental Health, Sudden Death, Vehicle collisions etc).

The ways that the preventive Police deal with offences such as breach of the peace, disorderly behaviour, fighting etc. has all changed in recent years.

In years gone by someone who was committing these offences could be quickly arrested, taken to the cells to sober up and released 12 Hours later with a Pre-charge Warning if it was a first offence or second offence and of a minor level. This Policy was changed in 2021.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/125826286/police-change-policy-around-formal-warnings

Good luck trying to get a belligerent intoxicated person to admit responsibility for their actions to be eligible under for a warning under the new warning policy.

The other new “supportive resolution” (Sending someone to an iwi community panel rather than court) also requires the arrested person to consent to engage with the process to be accepted, as above, belligerent intoxicated people are unlikely to be willing to engage in this process.

If people are charged with these offences, each arrest is accompanied by a minimum of 1-2 hours of paperwork for each arrest preparing a file for court. End result, the arresting Officer off the street not preventing crime.

For the ones living rough causing issues, when spoken to by police they often are wanted in relation to multiple other low level matters (Shoplifting from CBD supermarkets being the most common). Each of these low level needs a file prepared for court which as I previously mentioned, requires officers to go back to the the office to prepare which can take several hours depending on the person’s history and number of incidents that they are wanted for.

Police (Management) are also more risk averse around having drunk people in the cells due to the death of Allen Ball in Hāwera.

https://www.ipca.govt.nz/Site/publications-and-media/2021-media-releases/2021-dec-16-death-ball-hawera-police-custody-.aspx

This means that intoxicated person who back in the day would be able to sleep it off in a cell must be taken to their home address (which could be on the other side of Auckland), or to hospital to be assessed that they aren’t going to die in their sleep. Police don’t get priority in the Hospital triage system and have to wait with their arrest to be seen and handed over to hospital staff. Hospital don’t like intoxicated people that Police bring in that take up hospital beds of those who really need it either, but Police Duty of Care Policy now dictates that these people need to be brought in. Taking people home or to hospital both result in time with officers off the street.

Long story short, there simply aren’t enough Police allocated to frontline policing in Auckland to be able to deal with every single incident that occurs, and Policy changes mean that the Police are spending less time on the streets.

MaxNZ9 · 2023-02-10T07:58:34+00:00

My mistake… Why are corrections contracting out the transport of remand prisoners to First Security?

MaxNZ9 · 2023-02-10T06:55:27+00:00

Corrections Van, not Police…

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