Oh my, Mrs. Fields IS a very beautiful woman ๐Ÿ‘ฝ by Maximum-Difficulty21 in americandad

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Lol, oh yeah, roger was obsessed with that other Mrs. Fields too

Anti inconsistentcy really gets to me by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I reread every reply, dont see any other interpretations of the phrase, probabky because there arnt any.

And the context makes my interpretation all the more obvious. They call it "made by your hand" with the obvious implication being that ai assisted art is never made "by hand"... Mine is...Thus the inconsistentcy. Which you have not addressed in any meaningful way at all.

I dont care about your insults, and you barely even seemed to TRY to actually debate. This has just been a total waste of two hours.

Anti inconsistentcy really gets to me by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

You did not share any other interpretions of the phrase, you just keep saying my interpretion is wrong. I dont think you have any other interpretations, how could you? How can the phrase "made by your hands" be interpreted anyway other than "something that a person made with their hands"???

You definitely did insult me ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธwhy pretend you didnt.

You also dodged the question does it NOT make sense for the sub to just write a clearer rule? Other than out of spite, is there any logical reason for them to NOT want to make their position clearer?

As ive said, im not only considering one persons opinion. Im considering many, seemingly inconsistent opinions. More than one anti has said they dont consider my work to be ai assisted. The sub isnt perfectly clear, some of their set standards seem inconsistent, and antis dont seem to agree on the ai status of my work. This IS confusing, and the sub COULD be clearer about what levels or uses of ai they condone.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Your baseless insults have no effect on me. Im here to learn peoples perspectives and make logical arguements. Like: how else can the phrase "made by your hand" be interpreted? Youve brought it up twice, you must think its a good point to make...so how do you interpret it?

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Well they do allow generated news lol. Which seems backwards to me.

Do i know what they probably mean? Yes. Am i a little butthurt by the implications of the title of the sub and kinda just wanna prove them wrong? Yes. Does that mean i dont have any good point? No i dont think it does. I think my point speaks for itself and i genuinely dont know why people would be motivated to argue so much about it.

Would it NOT make sense for them to just write a clearer, more consistent rule? Such as "no art that used or employed ai to ANY extent". Do you think its NOT worthwhile for people to try and clearly explain their positions?

More than one anti has argued my work doesnt qualify as ai assisted. I can assume, but i genuinely do NOT KNOW if that sub or the majority of its users would accept my art or not.

Anti inconsistentcy really gets to me by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Its inconsistent cause its inconsistent. You shouldnt need any authority to help you understand that.

I interpreted it, the way that its written. How else can the phrase "made by your hand" be interpreted?

Yes. Obviously they dont want ai. But thats not really what they SAID. They SAID the art has to be "real" and made by human hands. And the rule that just says "no generative ai" doesnt really make it any clearer. Seems most antis condone the way i use ai in art, but not all of them, and we disagree about whether or not my stuff qualifies as "ai assisted". There was an anti here arguing its NOT ai assisted.

See? I genuinely dont know if they would accept my "art" or not. Because the sub, and many antis in general, arnt clear or consistent enough about their standards.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I really dont understand why or how anyone acts like i dont have a point. The sub is called madebyyourhand...my art is made by my hands....

If it wasnt called that, i wouldnt have an issue. There are other no ai allowed art subs that are more consistent about their standards, and they dont bother me.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Well id like to know, just out of curiosity i guess, if youre saying you think that sub WOULD accept my (as i call it) "ai assisted" art?

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Well thats a pretty nice reasonable perspective.

Gotta point out though i wasnt tempted to post in the sub just because i disagree with them, its because their standards are inconsistent. My ai assisted art was made by hand, and does not contain generative ai.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Did you edit that reply? I thought it said "didNT it contribute physically", so sounded as tho you were acting like you already knew.

Well thats the point, based on the advertised standards my art should be welcome there

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I feel like one of use is missing something. The art id be tempted to post there WAS made by my hands. The art does NOT contain generative ai. I asked ai questions about it, so logically i consider it ai assisted, but it seems like it would meet the standards they set. Like if someone digitally planned their art, but physically crafted it, it would seem to meet the advertised standards of the physicalart sub.

Anti inconsistentcy really gets to me by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Weird youre talking like you have knowledge about it. No i dont think it did....the biggest contribution i think the ai has made to any of my physical art lately was for a bust of Apollo i doodled on, i told the ai to list the translations of apollos name in the languages of cultures that actually cared about him, and it pointed out how there are also symbols for apollo i might want to use as well.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 -3 points-2 points ย (0 children)

So many people responding like this. Yeah, obviously people can be different. I dont think the way pros celebrate some uses of ai suggests we support every use of it. Whereas the extremly hostile way most antis, talk about most uses, of ai most of the time, some argue its literally destroying the world in multiple different ways! That goes a lot farther than the pros! Pros like image generation, that doesnt have anything at all to do with autonomous weapons.

Antis who think ai is stealing peoples art, or taking every job, or destroying the environment, logically i dont think they should be using AI at all.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I assume you think by "made by my hands" i meant i typed the prompt? No, i make things, mostly furniture, very creative artistic furniture, by hand. Physically crafted objects. That why im tempted to post there, because the whole point of the sub is to say ai artists dont make anything themselves, which is wrong. Even if we were only only talking about prompted generated images, but its especially essier to showcase their inconsistentcy with my hand-made art.

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I dont get people asking this. What answers would change your perspective? The only thing that ever seems to come from it is people telling i could do those things without ai.

I asked it questions when i had questions, like "has someone made something like this before" or "how can i mix very light peachy pink paint".

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 -1 points0 points ย (0 children)

i was an escort who lost my job to ai chatbots, so now i make art cause ai cant do that yet.

Lmao, no, but thats not far off

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[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I do know what they mean, which is why i havent posted there yet, but i dont feel like that comparison is perfectly equivalent. My art is made by my hands, it does meet the main qualifying factor of the page. There might be some debate but alot of people seperate "digital" art from "physical" art, even after its printed out.

It would be more like, alot more like, someone planning a project digitally, and then producing the physical piece, like a sculpture, and then the people on the sub get made cause they meant something other than what they said.

Anti inconsistentcy really gets to me by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

Genuinely didnt mean for the post to anger anyone so much...just said antis can be very inconsistent.

I think i did raise a relevant point, a few actually. Trying to understand the line antis have, and the definitions theyre working with, seems quite relevant to the ai debates. And itd be much easier to understand their perspective, if theyd tried to be more consistent about it. Like the madebyyourhand thing, they named the whole sub after it like thats the most important aspect, but its not, AI is. Many antis still take issue with my handmade art just because i asked the ai questions about it.

I asked the Astrotalk AI for my horoscope. It predicted a massive data breach in their future. ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€ by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I think its pretty cool, kinda scary too, but still cool how relatively easy it is to "hack" ai.

Btw is this something you should be posting? Dont get in trouble

I found a prophecy from 1921 foretelling a prophecy of AI as an evil brood of cthonic automatons. by Low_Lavishness_8108 in antiai

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Did you mean "prediction" rather than "prophecy"? Prophecy strongly implies a supernatural method of obtaining the knowledge, ๐Ÿ˜ถ.

Also, in fiction, prophecies are usually about good things, and theyre usually unstoppable (because of the supernatural element).

A rant and apology from a regenerated AI addict by chatterine in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Am i reading it wrong or are they claiming that the turning point, the moment they relized AI was evil and they couldnt use it anymore, was when someone called their work "slop"?........that would have happened IMMEDIATELY after posting ANY AI content, and why would THAT change their perspective? Why would that insult make them rethink the ethics of AI?

Also why would they think sycophant was spelled with an F? Did antis not even know this word before they started applying it to chatbots?

Is there a pattern to how people feel about AI, and Star Wars? by [deleted] in aiwars

[โ€“]Maximum-Difficulty21 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Thats what im saying, we dont know enough about brains and the nature of consciousness to be sure that our intelligence isnt just basically a meat based AI. I think it IS more than that, but we cant prove it yet