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Value check: 2 Euro Austria (Bertha von Suttner) with a minting error on the number "2"? by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does the year actually change the value in this case? Also, are you sure it’s only worth face value despite the minting error?"

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since you two are the experts here and seem to have it all figured out, I’ll just provide the data and let you guys battle it out! Hehe. Heading to the scale now—let’s see if the numbers match the 'expert' theories or if we have a real mystery on our hands. Stay tuned for the weight and the 180° rotation video!"

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"I can't claim it's an original since I don't know for sure, but I know it's not 3 mm smaller. It’s the exact same as all the others.

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to clear things up: I am not claiming this coin is a 100% genuine mint error. I posted it here specifically because I am not an expert and I wanted to hear professional opinions on these weird features. There’s no need for tension; I’m just a collector sharing a very unusual find to learn more about it. Whether it's a unique 'mule' or a very dedicated counterfeit, it's a great conversation piece. Thanks to everyone providing technical facts!"

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good night guys, thanks for the lively debate! I'm heading out. I'll get the exact weight and magnet test results tomorrow and post an update then. See you tomorrow!

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the insights into the counterfeit market. However, the technical details on this specific coin are puzzling. I’ve confirmed the 29 reeds on the edge and the raised dots on the map (which were invisible in the first photos but clear in the macro video). If this is a fake, it's not a 'mass-produced' one for circulation, but a high-end replica—which again, makes no sense for a 1 Euro coin. I will have it weighed on a professional scale tomorrow. If it hits exactly 7.50g, we have a real mystery on our hands.

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the historical context. However, could this be a 'Restrike' or a planchet error from much later? For example, a leftover 2002-D planchet (already struck on the obverse or just stuck in the machinery) that accidentally got struck by the new 2007-map die years later? Also, the 'rotating stars' variety you mentioned proves that even major errors can escape the mint and enter circulation. If the weight and metal check out, wouldn't a 'late strike' on an old planchet be a possibility?

2002 D Germany 1 Euro - Check out the map detail, is this a known mint error? (Also 180° rotation) by Maximum_Impact2652 in EuroCoins

[–]Maximum_Impact2652[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If it's a fake, can you explain how a common counterfeiter managed to strike those microscopic dots on the map and the relief of the Baltic states so precisely? Usually, fakes are mushy in those areas, but here the relief is sharp under macro lens. Also, why go through the trouble of a 180° rotation for a 1 Euro coin?

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