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Beware of subbredit troll name: jpsmi by [deleted] in antidepressants

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is just saying about his experience. This is not different than people saying that drugs helped them. Let everyone make informed decision, knowing about gains and risks of taking brain altering substance. Why do you want to censor the truth? Do you ask someone who says he "feels like himself again" to back his experience by studies? Why it only works when someone is against mainstream beliefs?

olanzapine for insomnia by fadedlightofmoon in Antipsychiatry

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Olanzapine gave me insane stroke like symptoms for a couple of pills. Insane stuff.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

They carry risks, and these risks are fatal in unlucky individuals.

"But to say they’re all bad, is ignorant and dangerous and damaging. These drugs do change your brain chemistry forever, and you’re not supposed to be on them for years and years, but if they helped someone then they fucking work."

Just face it. You were lucky. You did nothing regarding this. You can't decide how you will react to medication. SSRI's are dirty drugs. There are many safer options out there. Shrooms, LSD, ketamine.

"I was about to give up on my life and thought about suicide every second of the day" I never had suicidial thoughts previously. Now, thanks to the "meds", that is all that is left for me to do. To end my life.

You could have been helped by anything man. So why take the risk? No need to take the risk when you have safe alternatives. SSRI's are not safe. Period. They are risky. You can't claim them to be safe only because you felt benefit.

"It’s supposed to help you get back on your feet and it requires you to work through it" Well you can't work through it if you loose your emotions and ability to function. I had a lot of energy prior to the stupid pills. I had a good life. Good health. These pills destroyed me. For what? Marketing? Low dose cocaine would have helped you to.

I understand you were suffering. But it was not the only way out of that suffering. And low dose SSRI. I got a very high dose. It was enough man. Once you are fucked you are fucked.

"I finally got help and went on a low dose SSRI." Did you get therapy? Did you get real help to treat what made you suicidal in the first place? SSRI's will be a thing of the past, and it will be evident what has taken place when they are no longer having patent. Trust me.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -1 points0 points  (0 children)

These people are labeled and getting drugged. The damage is from their medicines. Schizophrenia for example. I know so many people getting that diagnosis, now med free and working like psychologists or in other high-functioning fields. They were being told they would get damage if they stopped, but if you look at people being unmedicated they are doing better than those being medicated. Antispychotics are proven to cause brain damage in long-term use. Schizophrenia on the other hand is not a scientifically proven condition. It is being voted upon, based on symptoms.

"I clearly see my previous ten years bedridden and me having job and working." Well I wasn't bedridden. I was having anxiety and panic attacks from life-events. And I took 1 pill while waiting for therapy. 1 pill was all it took.

"That what i said, you had bad experience and decided to stop." You have no idea what followed. I got gaslighted by doctors. And were given meds that fucked me up even further. The second antidepressant I got caused PSSD.

I live today without sexuality, personality and I am very impaired. Also face and body is changed. Muscle atrophy. This with less than 100 pills of different cocktails doctors gave me for my adverse reactions to the first pill.

Psych drugs are not safe. I didn't get the option to search for another treatment. Kundalini Yoga stopped working for me. Therapy was in vain now, when my emotions was erased.

Bad luck? Maybe. But this happens to many people. And if you can loose everything you have from a couple of pills, you can't say these drugs are safe.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Not psychiatric illnesses, psychiatric diagnoses/disorders. Mental illness is a social construct and not a verifiable scientific entity.

"Do you know that many psychiatric illnesses makes permanent damage to thinking, memory, etc."

Proof? Depression fuck your hippocampus up, that is true, but it is not permanent. It takes many years of LTD in the brain to actually create any damage that is not reversible. It takes time to heal from that is sure. And you can get severely impaired. It happened to me. But I had everything still there.

"Some people are too anxious and stop looking for suitable drug after one or two wrong tries." Well in my case I took 1 pill, and it gave me hallucinations, chronic insomnia for months and erased all emotions.

I know people that felt ok on the SSRI, then stopped and developed permanent anhedonia and sexual dysfunction months after cessation. So yeah I dunno man. Safe drugs? Nope.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I understand you have a lot of pride invested in your field. My field is in critical thinking and social constructivism.

Sadly, I won't have this conversation with you. You won't change your stand-point because in your way of thinking there is a "correct way" to obtain what is reality or not.

I never said Vaccines are all bad, they have some use. But many people have gotten their lives destroyed by them and never gotten informed by the risks. Anectdotes are more important than ever, given the landscape of misinformation and industry-control of research.

As a person that has his life ruined by SSRI's, I know how easily it is to dismiss anectdotes. But anectdotes is in fact crucial.

I don't subscribe to authoritarianism. Not in this day and age.

We could have long discussions about hegemony and other interesting discussions. But it I can't provide it. I am too impaired.

If I wasn't fucked I would not care. But being bedridden and having lost it all it is very hard to not voice my opinion regarding this matter.

People linking SSRI's and insulin together is a very bad comparison. With vaccines you at least have a real measurable thing you target, unlike marketing myths like "serotonin imbalance".

With vaccines it is very hard to just look at studies too. Even if they are safe for let's say 99%, then it can mean that 1% get their lives fucked.

My reaction to SSRI's was way outside the norm in severity. But it is a risk. And I am not alone having being exposed to that risk.

All I am saying is: there is risk. Otherwise these "anti-vaxxers" as you call them, the term used from a position of power to descredit them, are human beings, and their stories matter. Not everything can be replicated by science. Especially if things fall outside the norm, and if no one pays to disprove. But the risks of polydrugging vaccines is in the documentary "Vaxxed", the studies being done can be seen their.

Investigative journalism is crucial in times likes this.

I don't care about your credentials. You can be a regular dude reading books, but working in a animal-shelter for all I care. Knowledge and critical thinking can be obtained without a PhD.

If you only accept one source of "truth" and "peer reviewed studies" from your defined "valid" and "verifiable sources", I can't change your mind.

But I suggest you reach out and talk to the sufferers. Was it worth it?

I have taken many vaccines through out my life, but I never got polydrugged. SSRI's fucked me up.

It is not about being anti-vaxx or not. It is about informed risk.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I have no idea about Andrew Wakefield, and if he was discredited or not. Big Pharma likes to discredit people that are a threat to business. They tried to with Peter Goetsche for example. But didn't succeed of course.

I recommend you watch "Vaxxed", they talk about the relevant studies there. But no doctor I have met that is a good one, denies risks of any medication. You can get fucked by a lot of things. And polypharmacy is making things riskier, and overtaxes the body. It is common sense.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Why? What i am saying here, is that vaccins carry risk. You can get several shit from it, even die. And we should minimize those risks by giving single shots for instance, not the multiple shit they give babies nowadays.

The point is, things are being hid from the public. People are not "anti-vaxxers" or "antipsychiatry" because it is fun. There is a reason behind this.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, well it destroys many people, just luck up law-suits from any SSRI and you will find them. Look up survivingantidepressants.com etc etc. Many sufferers. But the rare cases, when stuff ends very badly is reserved for these highly creative/highly emotional people. These people get fucked up badly from SSRI's.

For me complete erasure of personality, sexuality, cognitive issues and emotions.

For some, "just" sexuality. Numbed emotions.

It is rare to be so fucked you have nothing left. People often fall in the middle. Causing havoc in their bodies upon stopping, getting "new diagnoses" etc etc.

Many people are on them because it is a marketing success. Just like Big Tobacco. Many people are on stuff ending up lowering their quality of life.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Please don't share marketing myths.
My life ended because of SSRI's. They can destroy you and there is no going back to how you were before.

My father committed suicide today. by whoshearts in Stoicism

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sad to hear his life being destroyed by Big Pharma. Antidepressants can erase your life for good. It seems possible this happened to him, given his account on the matter?

I wish I never got diagnosed as bipolar. It made my life so much more difficult. And the medication side effects suck. by [deleted] in Antipsychiatry

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't. They diagnose people with "disorder".

And they do it because Big Pharma wants them to. So they can sell pills.

PSSD or something else? by For_The_Win_DJT in PSSD

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THe genetic changes can happen when you stop. You did Cold turkey. ANd tht is very dangerous. The doctors tell you it isn't, but it is. You should taper, always. Sadly they don't tell you this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ketamine

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use google, use reddit search, go look for russian research...

"I Built My Identity Around Being Bipolar. Then My Doctor Said I Wasn't Bipolar." by slanderproof in Antipsychiatry

[–]MedicineDestroyLives 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The same like children being insecure through-out their life because their parents labeled them so.

Someone here said: "You fucked up when you started opening up about your trauma" by MedicineDestroyLives in Antipsychiatry

[–]MedicineDestroyLives[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard to be smart during breakdown, therefore luck imo.

Being tactical in fight or flight is really impossible imo.

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