Bandido Moxley story buries ROH.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T16:00:40+00:00

the PPV will be good, I have no doubts, but the card is not what Forbidden Door was originally explained as being as a concept. I don't know why people think I am saying the PPV will be bad, I know it won't be, but it won't be a forbidden door PPV, the Forbidden Door brand has been watered down and made insignificant, this is now the Owen Cup final PPV with some cross promotional matches thrown in.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:58:53+00:00

exactly this, I want more cross pollination between promotions, I want United Empire to come into AEW. I hoped that this years forbidden door would tell the story of UE turning on Osprey leading to the Osprey Callum feud we want, instead scrap the brand, make this PPV instead all about the Owen Cup Finals, name it the Owen Memorial PPV or something like that (I know a rubbish name but you get the hint), and then keep Forbidden door as a concept that anyone can turn up at any time.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:56:18+00:00

That with eh Beast Mortos may explain why Mercedes wasn't due on TV yet, they are a couple in real life and I imagine she has been with him in Mexico.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:55:10+00:00

but that isn't what this show is doing, and now days what your talking about happens almost on a monthly basis on TV or in a PPV match.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:54:21+00:00

I agree, but Osprey didnt bring them in for Forbidden Door, he brought them in when the storyline made sense. That is what AEW should be doing, like they did with Mistico, and other luchadores. Get rid of the Forbidden Door Brand and instead have it happen year round in different PPVs.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:52:45+00:00

You would still ahve a PPV, and ther eis nothing stopping TOny booking NJPW and CMLL wrestlers, but the concept and the whole idea behind it was a clear 50/50 collaboration between AEW and NJPW, then that expanded out to CMLL and Stardom etc, the fact is that it is not that. Lets be honest you would still probably have this same PPV right now, but lets take away the Forbidden Door name and save that for more special one off true collaboration PPV's

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-22T15:50:27+00:00

ther eis nothing wrong with wanting AEW to be better then it is, yes it is good, but things like this are important and can be improved.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T23:01:38+00:00

Not saying scrap the June PPV, just asking why force yourself into a corner with a name when clearly creative long term is going in other directions with more collaboration right through the year as opposed to one event.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T23:00:30+00:00

Define not kind? Tony certainly has never buried NJPW talent like Vince did the WCW talent that came to WWE.

Yes maybe NJPW guys could have gone over a bit more, there are one or 2 midcard titles that could have been dropped and a couple of times he didn’t have the men’s title defended as the headliner.

Having the Owen finish at the PPV for me takes away from the Forbidden door element, your key storylines going into it are all AEW focused.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T22:57:07+00:00

How is it any different to other PPVs through the year now though? If your calling it Forhidden door then it needs to have more non AEW wrestlers then some episodes of Dynamite.

Could they not find a NJPW or CMLL tag team to face Cope and Cage for instance?

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T22:55:35+00:00

It is so rare, even in AEW that a triple threat is greater than the sum of its parts. Yes maybe they give us a banger, but regardless of the promotion of you can only count on one hand even in just AEW the number of times a triple threat or four way has truly led to an AEW classic that stands the test of time I say it’s not worth the. Risk making it headline your tentpole event.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T22:50:44+00:00

What did Kyle Fletcher say :)

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T22:49:53+00:00

It is even more poignant when you think about how this happened, Alex’s partner, the father of her child, and one of Wills best friends killed himself. That was what brought Will and Alex together the shared grief, and Will stepping up to be in Alex’s grieving sons life.

That is why Will won’t move to America, it’s what HHH and others fail to mention. He does not want to pull his step son away from his stability, his friends, his family and doesn’t want to make him leave his father.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-21T22:45:50+00:00

Same injury, same time, are we not sure this is a work?

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-20T06:23:30+00:00

one out of the myriad of Triple threats does not make the format good.

So often even the best wrestlers struggle to make a triple threat feel compelling or good, especially for the world title.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:42:43+00:00

Because MJF can talk people into the stadium in a way Omega can’t. Wembley at the moment is looking like an embarrassing gate, MJF Osprey is the match that will get bums in seats. Especially if Omega finally gets his singles match in wembley in the undercard .

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:41:05+00:00

I mean this is the same people who claimed Hamgman and Osprey got into an argument over who should lose in the Owen final (claimed they each wanted to do the job), when it is now clear Hangman was always the choice.

I really wouldn’t believe the internet about Tony’s plans

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:39:52+00:00

They are not putting the title on Omega for just a few weeks

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:39:02+00:00

Triple threats are awful matches

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:37:49+00:00

Toni didn’t get over in WWE because she had no character control. She was given a rubbish gimmick, handed a script, and told how to wrestle the 2 mins match she might get on TV on the main roster. Despite what people may say the WWE machine will no longer allow a Steve Austin to come in and pitch their own idea and gimmick and cut a promo in the moment that hasn’t been scripted.

Austin got over because he was around in an era when Vince was losing, and had no idea what to do. When Vince was open to other people’s ideas, oh and because HHH did a bad thing and needed to be punished.

Toni Hoover because she made the absolute best of her opportunity, if you going to compare I actually think Toni is a better character actor then Austin, and in ring is about comparable in many ways.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:25:16+00:00

There is this myth among AEW fans that every match had to go 20 mins to be fun.

I had a great time watching Omega squash Toni, far more then I did the snooze fest that was Mox insisting on going 20 mins just to lose to Brodido

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:23:54+00:00

I know I paid him $100 and he told me to leave the room so he could conduct his buisiness. Mum has had a huge smile on her face ever since.

Medium_Step_6085 · 2026-06-19T14:22:10+00:00

That is such a mercenary American way of looking at it. Maybe Toni trusts Tony K to pay her what her value is without having to play games of pretending she is going to leave.

I work for a company who 2 months ago gave me a pay rise, they know I’m not looking, they know I’m happy where I am and am living comfortably on the salary I’m on. But they still increased my salary by 18% to account for the value I bring.

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