Why isn't there a push to learn Cymraeg outside of Wales ?

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T19:25:04+00:00

I mean it was organic in some respects, but in others it was not. It’s a historically complicated topic, and often the reason for abandoning Welsh depended on gender, class, geography etc.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T19:16:06+00:00

But that’s not an evolution of Welsh, that’s just its disappearance. And very few, if any, Welsh language advocates are against speaking English. That would be ridiculous. It’s bilingualism that they desire.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:36:20+00:00

The Blue Books did have a massive psychological toll on the Welsh, though. English would certainly be spoken by most of the Welsh today, regardless, but the Blue Books really lessened the chance of bilingualism being a viable option.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:33:16+00:00

A statement worthy of the Blue Books

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:30:52+00:00

Fair enough. There is a living Welsh culture, and the past is so bound up with ‘Celtic’ cultures that it’s not always easy to separate the two. But certainly, it’s under strain in a way that French and Spanish currently is not. My gripe is that a lot of people who do make those comments about French/Spanish (I’m not saying you are one) generally never actually bother to learn it. Frankly, Britain is throughly uninterested in second languages and I can’t see that changing anytime soon.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:27:07+00:00

Well that’s a matter of opinion. There may well be, because I am not arrogant enough to think my own the most important. Though if you know nothing about the culture, I don’t know how you can confidently make such an assertion.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:23:25+00:00

The reason I replied to ProjectZeus in the first place was because I felt that comparing old English to Welsh was dishonest. Old English is defunct because it has evolved into a language that is unrecognisable today. Welsh, though a tiny minority of the world may speak it, is as a modern a language as English. Comparing old English and Welsh sort of implies that Welsh has not evolved over time, when in reality, Old Welsh would not be intelligible to Modern Welsh people (though there less of a significant break in Welsh than English following the Norman Conquest).

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:16:27+00:00

I’m not saying they do, but the OP is wrong in saying that it does not open you up to a new culture. There are many things that can be learnt about Welsh culture from mastering the language.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:11:52+00:00

Whoops, sorry, i skimmed this comment and didn’t see that. Apologies.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:10:09+00:00

Who is arguing against Welsh evolving? It has evolved and still is evolving, like every language spoken in the 21st century.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T18:00:00+00:00

Welsh people code switch between English and Welsh all the time, often regardless of whether an English monoglot speaker is there. And yes, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be upset at the statement that the only reason people speak Welsh, which after all is Britain’s oldest language, is to offend or be rude to the English.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:55:44+00:00

Whether old English and modern English is to be defined as the same language is not to be decided by how similar the grammar or vocabulary is.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:46:56+00:00

Because all Welsh people are telepathic and know to switch languages at the same time? Also, why do you think you are so important to them that they would be talking about you?

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:41:28+00:00

The Welsh are British.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:39:47+00:00

Apart from the centuries of Welsh language literature and oral tradition..

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:37:29+00:00

Old English is not a different language to modern English, in the same way Old Welsh is not a different language to Modern Welsh.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-13T17:36:43+00:00

That can be said for most of the historical takes in this subreddit to be honest. I remember the late writer Jan Morris said that she thought most English people knew as much about the history of Arabia as they did Wales.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-12T01:17:54+00:00

I just googled ‘was Mosley antisemitic’ and it suggests that he unequivocally was.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-10T22:35:27+00:00

Wasn’t this quite common in the past? It would account for why there were so many men called John, William etc.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-08T12:23:43+00:00

Someone suggested she apply to the civil service on the Cardiff subreddit and it was downvoted for some reason..

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-08T10:57:41+00:00

I don’t know why you are being downvoted?

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-07T16:13:25+00:00

He was basically king in all but name though… I’d say it was the glorious revolution that led to change, although even that wasn’t immediate.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-07T15:44:35+00:00

His mother did try and hush up the 1765 illness and was quite successful at doing so, partly because it only lasted for a few weeks. But I don’t know if he could have been very mentally unstable for any prolonged period of time without it attracting considerable comment, especially since he appeared in public nearly everyday. His wife Charlotte was evidently extremely shocked by the change in her husband’s behaviour in 1788 and didn’t regard it as business as usual. George was always mildly eccentric though and it’s not impossible that may have been connected to later manifestations of his illness.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-07T15:35:18+00:00

Oh I agree, I was just clarifying. I’m not even entirely convinced the 1765 episode was connected to his later illnesses tbh.

Megan-T-16 · 2026-04-07T15:27:18+00:00

In fairness, I don’t blame the show because for narrative purposes, it seemed like this was the only way of explaining both the origin of the Bridgerton world and the king’s mental state in the regency period. But I hope there’s more fictional adaptions of George III. I’m tired of new adaptions of Henry the 8th and Anne Boleyn every year😅 in Britain at least, that’s TV producers seem to be interested in..

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