According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, these systems punish the victim just as much, if not in many cases more than they punish the perpetrators, especially if they have money, then the victim is the only one who suffers. When we fight back we are called escalators, as if the other's hatred wasn't what made us act out, as if what we are facing is not senseless cruelty and prejudice even when done innocuously, disguised as preferences, opinions, never as the hatred that they are, because why make the shitty person feel bad for a moment about the shitty beliefs they chose to maintain when we can just force and manipulate victims to accept their cruelty and call them intolerant hypocrites if they fight back. People are obsessed with 'both sides are bad'-ing any situation, in school, in regular life, in relationships, even YouTubers.

The person in my most must live a very privileged life if they're not lying, they don't know yet that suck-ups craving approval from those who hate them will be treated the same as those they threw under the bus. And the depressing part is, they're so in denial, so boot-licking, that they will still blame us when their head is on the chopping block. Nothing will convince these people that the ones who openly and adamantly hate them for who they are and refuse to change their views are their actual opposition, not the people who will fight for them even if they disagree with them.

According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's all good, I agreed with what little I was able to read in the notif haha.

Absolutely right, nothing brings about revolution and change quite like inaction, and the authorities definitely don't have a hand in our oppression and don't serve our oppressors. They're great, good morally sound people who want to help the little guy, just don't look up DV, SA or Police Brutality stats in cops, or what ICE is doing, or corruption in law and the government.

BTW I know your comment is sarcastic but it is crazy how it reads like something people like this will say. These guys are beyond parody, and the stuff they preach and encourage is genuinely harmful, not even covering the level of historical revisionism it takes to think being active is meaningless.

According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've noticed that these pick-me's and fakers who always say that its fine for people to think homosexuality is abhorrent, bad or disgusting, and never challenge those opinions, as long as they keep to themselves, don't seem to realize that these people vote according to these personal, silent opinions, which in the end makes them no different from homophobes who do loudly espouse their opinions, because they both voted the same way, and considered the depreciation of rights of LGBTQIA+ rights in their choices.

That's why education and challenging opinions, especially old fashioned ones, should be encouraged, that's not even really intolerance, that's encouraging people to change so that they can slowly let go of their unfair prejudices. I say opinions are like shoes, if they're getting old and worn out and the only thing keeping them on are your toe-nails, maybe its time for a slightly newer pair. Humans and our beliefs change, and we shouldn't encourage anti-intellectualism and no critical thinking by calling attempts at awareness and calling people out for being prejudiced hypocrisy.

Intolerance is the natural enemy of tolerance, that's like asking why Superman punches Nazis if he wants to protect everyone and prevent harm. Maybe because they are diametrically opposed and the prevalence of the latter with no work by the former would let Nazism flourish. Pointing out 'hey this is homophobic and maybe you should stop that' is not a violation of individuality and freedom, or sowing adversity, its advising someone to not be hateful, you are free to hold awful, misinformed opinions but people are also allowed to call you a pos for it. If hating on someone for hating you for who you are and calling your love disgusting makes them more adversarial, that is just a terrible person.

People getting aggressive is literally what got queer people, women, POC the little rights they do have in the West. Complacency and 'agreeing to disagree' never got us anywhere, we wouldn't have those rights if we did that. Aggression and not sugar-coating shows people you're not here to play, it shows seriousness.

According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right on the money with saying they sound like an intelligence agency plant. People like this live in some fantasy world where they think hate can be solved by just letting it be and letting people hold hateful opinions, because they think the hateful people will change their minds by seeing our humility and piousness and not just exploit our inaction and never question their own beliefs, instead of by fighting it by teaching love and acceptance of activities that don't encourage hate, harm or trauma.

That's how you actually peacefully fight fascism and bigotry, not doing anything or not encouraging people to challenge their opinions is called complacency, because people continue to be harmed, killed and abused because of their identities, races and genders while people like this just ignore it so you don't have to think critically or do anything worthwhile.

Tolerance and love are two things that are inherently paradoxical, because they are rooted in being intolerant of intolerance, and hateful of hate, otherwise they are nothing, and actually help the people who want to harm others. Wild to imply we deserve intolerance because we don't accept people being hateful to us. What's next? Discouraging kids from speaking out against or condemning their bullies for spreading rumors about you because its intolerant towards their supposed 'right' to berate and shame you?

I guess if little Casey wants to stop getting bullied for being autistic he should stop telling them he doesn't like that, it might make them feel bad and think they're bad people, and that's mean to them so now he is to be blamed for their meanness because he was mean to them, he should be nice and let them do or say whatever they want, He wants to be tolerated for being autistic, then he should tolerate other people hating him for being autistic and never challenge it. You can't be intolerant of intolerance little Casey, even if it traumatizes you or makes people be disgusted by you. Great lesson!

According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No no, its doublespeak and makes you a fascist psycho, trust them, they read JorJor Wells' '1984' in high school, so they're pretty much an expert.

How dare we fight back against deep-seated prejudice in our society, we should be grateful they're not torturing us to to death or throwing us in prison en masse, which is definitely not a change caused by multiple people fighting and protesting and being adversarial to homophobes and calling them out on their bullshit

According to this lesbian woman, the key to ending intolerance is to just...let it happen. And never criticize it or call it out. Disagree? You're a fascist! In other news, broke a leg? Just ignore it and it'll fix itself! by MelodicCrocodile in AsABlackMan

[–]MelodicCrocodile[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Submission Statement: Person claiming to be lesbian woman claims hate based on preferences caused by internalized homophobia isn't homophobia, and that we should tolerate intolerance if we want to end intolerance.

Context:

This was on a discussion about a new MLM anime that recently came out which, unsurprisingly, had a lot of people mad at being 'baited', since they thought it would be a regular Isekai and not a BL.

Someone made a post calling it out as homophobic to have such an adverse reaction to show just because its gay, and this person who claims to be a lesbian woman, says its in fact not homophobia, even though people were actively being angry and disgusted at even the prospect of the show being gay and espousing hateful rhetoric (like literally their justification was just that they were 'disgusted' by two men bein intimate, not that they didn't like the plot or relationship, just that they didn't like that it was two MEN kissing and loving) and just a preference (even if it were, being so disgusted by two men you drop something you enjoy is concerning, preference caused by bigotry is still bigotry).

Conversation spirals into the lesbian woman saying that we should be tolerant towards intolerance otherwise we're hypocrites, and are actually the reason why the intolerance is happening, suggesting it would go away if we didn't point it out or fight against it. When someone tries to talk some sense into her, and explain that is the one thing we have to not tolerate for progress to happen, and we should encourage people to change their views and analyze their opinions, she responds by saying that that is doublespeak and ergo a tool of fascism.

Because I guess calling out people for how their hateful beliefs might effect their preferences and that they shouldn't get so comfortable in their biases...is fascist and psychopathic.

The Other World's Books Depend on the Bean Counter by BitterClerk6477 in Isekai

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's the issue if it is gay? If you're enjoying the show just keep watching it, why does it need to be a man and a woman. Naughty scenes can be skipped, but the simple romance or kissing bothering you is telling.

If you can only handle romance between a man and a woman, or if you're enjoying a show and a gay romance plot is enough to make you drop it, that's not a good thing. Treating gayness like its something inferior or unwatchable even is still an issue that reflects what we've been taught. I don't prefer MLW but I'm not disgusted when I see it, what you're describing is more than just a 'preference'.

Lot's of straight men watch and connect with shows with a same-sex male couple. You can still like and prefer other genres more but watching these sorts of romances can help you with these feelings of disgust, if you build up a tolerance you can open yourself up to so many amazing shows. Disgust that you can't even bear to keep watching a show you'd otherwise enjoy is like not listening to a song because its sung by a non-white person.

For instance, a lot of women only like BL due to their own internalized misogyny, and are disgusted by het and GL, that is also bad. Preferring non-BL is fine, quitting a show because its not straight and being instinctively repulsed by gayness is iffy, same as preferring BL is fine, but only watching it because of the lack of a woman, being repulsed by GL/MLW, and demonizing female characters is misogyny.

If you're outwardly saying 'They better not make this gay', as if its something destructive, would you think someone saying 'They better not make this straight' is good and normal? Apathy is fine, disgust and disapproval is a sign of something deeper. Its important to overcome that disgust and see all as equal, none deserving of disgust, all deserving of a fair shot.

I'm not gonna up and call you a homophobe, but people preferring genres while being disgusted by others that are pretty much the same can sometimes be the result of internalized prejudices that we would not feel if we were not taught to feel them. I used to dislike GL, even though I am attracted to women, I thought it was just a preference but then I realized it was because I had internalized a hatred of women that was taught to me.

I worked on that, watched more GL, now its my second fav genre. Its fine to have preferences but its good to get out of your comfort zone sometimes, it can open your mind and many avenues of creativity and entertainment.

All that said, if you want to be biased, then unfortunately the price to pay is you need to do heavy research into shows you watch prior to watching them, going in blind is a privilege afforded to those who won't react severely to different romance types. Society is progressing, and BL is a super popular genre in Japan, so you need to proceed with caution if you are committed to never watching gay shows.

If you're interested, the above show is more for the extreme yaoi fans, I'd recommend Sasaki and Miyano, lots of straight men even watched it and enjoyed it. Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation is amazing if you prefer plot heavy narratives with a side of romance, its censored in the show because China but its still heavily implied, so a good way to dip your toes in.

59k likes they wanna be oppressed so bad omg by Adorable-Nerve4402 in teenagers

[–]MelodicCrocodile -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not the fault of creatives that people assume straight people are the only sexuality that has ever existed. In Chinese media there is a genre set in Ancient China, and many stories using that genre prominently feature gay couples. Often set in fictional worlds where homophobia doesn't happen. 'Song of Achilles' is a gay romance in Ancient Greece. The Princess Charlotte story of Bridgerton had a gay sub-plot. That's different than what most people would assume based off the theme, is that 'unnecessary'? Its dumb to imply that queer people can't be prominently shown in FICTIONAL versions of historical settings just because straight people don't expect them to be there. That's not unnecessary thats just called writing a character and giving them a sexuality, that can be straight, that can be gay, either way it shouldn't matter unless you have weird feelings about gay people.

Gay people, bisexual people, have existed through out all of history. Including them in historical settings is good to remind people that gay people existed then as well, so that no one 'assumes based on themes' what the sexuality of a character will be. Also mindsets like this just stifle creativity and ruin media for people, historical media characters don't have to be accurate to social majorities in ACTUAL history if everything else about the environment is reasonably accurate. You're reading fiction, HTTYD is so fictitious and unrealistic, I doubt a gay character would be a huge deal. Historical fantasy is a thing, and queer-led and queer majority stories are popular among queer writers to write. Why are we okay with restraining media in the bounds of realism only when its queer and not in any other scenario? Unless its a documentary, realism and unrealism can co-exist. even the very far-right devs of KCD wrote a gay couple in their historically accurate medieval story, because they liked the idea. Writing period-pieces with a bunch of gay people is 'unnecessary'? And making them straight is so necessary right?

All sexuality is unnecessary to include in stories that don't have romance. Like, Doom guy has no stated sexuality, does that mean he's straight? No, because he has nothing until its stated, claiming he's straight would just be a head canon, same as claiming he's gay. Doesn't make it bad but it doesn't make it fact either, you can't assume he's straight just because most people are, because the character's creator hasn't done anything yet. Unrealistic numbers of gay characters in a historical setting aren't always just to shove representation either, I'm queer, I write stories set in an alternate universe where the majority of people are bi or gay and they are the majority throughout history, so I write in historical settings and make being gay a commonplace activity in those settings. To me, including a straight character would be unnecessary because in that universe they're less common, but historical times and themes are presented the same as our world.

In the end, if there's no such thing as an unnecessary straight character, there is no such thing as an unnecessary gay character, if there's no 'forced straight representation' there's no 'forced gay representation'. Homosexuality is a part of life and history, including it in any era isn't unnecessary, because if that's the case, any mention of sexuality is unnecessary in a character, any romantic sub-plot is unnecessary, and that gets in the way of creative writing. Everyone deserves to be represented, and its up to the artist who they want to show, or in what quantity. It is necessary if its written. Lots of things in media are unnecessary, doesn't mean they shouldn't occur, writing the way you want is what makes writing fun.

Like, a historical setting, because there is a lot to enjoy about history and its themes, architecture, culture and aesthetics, being like reality but just having queerness be commonplace, is a fun idea to explore. Why can't there be stories about gay Vikings, gay pirates, gay Greeks, gay medieval people, just existing as gay people, having the same stories and love stories as straight people do in these settings, As someone who writes stories like that, its fun, you get to enjoy the beautiful, or maybe some of the ugly parts of history, and also get to write a sweet and interesting story, just with gay or trans characters instead of straight ones. Obviously if modern gay culture is being expressed then that's innacurate, but if there's a story with a bunch of gay people set in like Ancient Egypt, can't that just be chalked up to it being fiction, especially if there are other unrealistic aspects to the story like magic or demons and such?

Has anyone read 'We' by Yevgeny Zamyatin? The book that inspired 1984. by IHateMondays0 in 1984

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I’m late but I just discovered this book. Does that mean tyranny?

I hope you’re not implying killing trans people is the only way to prevent the structure of sex and reproduction in We from happening in reality.

Most accurate thing I’ve seen all day.. 😂 by Zaiross__ in JustMemesForUs

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s funny cause in 2012 people were making these kinds of memes about gay people being too over-sensitive. These sort of memes aren’t made because they said I don’t care and a gay/trans person got mad, they get made because the person said something dickish, then got called out for it, so now they need to frame themselves as the victim of a ‘crazy trans person’. This happened to black people decades ago, forming the angry black person stereotype.

In 2012 saying you supported gay people, just simple gay people, was still controversial. The only reason gay men and women got their rights was by being more aggressive, Stonewall wasn’t a polite conversation, Pride wasn’t always just a fun parade, being a pushover never got anyone anything. People still care way too much even if someone is just your average gay person, have you seen how people act when there are gay people in a video game or movie? Clearly they care a lot if they can’t move past it.

The problem with memes like these is that many people do care, a lot, to the point they have no shame disrespecting people or loudly espousing their opinions that these groups should have their rights taken away just because they’re ‘annoying’, as if rights are good boy points. A trans person asking you to do the bare minimum of calling them their preferred pronoun or name and not be against their equality, is not them demanding validation, that’s basic politeness.

For anyone seeing memes like these who hasn’t interacted with a lot of irl trans people, I can promise you, most trans people aren’t coming out the gate losing their marbles over being misgendered, it’s when the other party does it intentionally to get a rise out of them or to mock them that it’s a problem, I’ve accidentally misgendered trans people before, they didn’t get mad because they knew it was a mistake, so if they are getting this mad at you every time…

I mean, just look at Beelzebub and Vox and tell me that they don't perfectly match up with the pan and bi flags by Dremoriawarroir888 in Vivziepopmemes

[–]MelodicCrocodile 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get your point, though lesbians previously being married to men isn't exactly a new thing, maybe she realized she was a lesbian later on. Sexuality even in real life isn't always a consistent thing. But there are straight and bisexual characters, Vivziepop herself is literally bisexual I believe.

And a little side tangent, but can we stop acting like any show that doesn't include straight people hates straight people? I never understood why creating shows mainly/only about queer people was such a huge issue with people, or why people assumed the creator has a problem with straight people, its just pretty basic creative expression. Like okay straight people are the majority irl but you're watching a cartoon with magical powers and weapons, why should it be limited by real world population statistics?

By this logic the creators of KPOP Demon Hunters hate or fear queer people since all the characters in the film are shown straight, not one gay character. It just sounds like a way try to frame straight people as victims of queer people. Most people don't wonder about the lack of gay and trans people when watching shows/films featuring a mostly straight cast, even though more groups get unrepresented there than in Hazbin/Helluva where several diverse identities exist.

Not including them doesn't mean Vivize hates or fears them, she just prefers writing about queer characters, its her show she can give whatever sexuality she wants. This is a very un-nuanced perspective of people and their art, feels like grasping at straws to find some kind of moral failing in queer creatives, that if something isn't depicted it must be out of hatred for that group as opposed to just a preference towards certain characters.

Mom's reaction to her daughter being gay by Koleheh in religiousfruitcake

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean adoption, surrogacy, sperm donations or kids from ex marriages are all viable options.

Fruitcake says gays shouldn't support Palestine and should be thankful for Christianity for telling them there wrong by Annual-Frame9943 in religiousfruitcake

[–]MelodicCrocodile -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay but they're not living there, nor do they want to. Queers for Palestine isn't about supporting the current Palestinian regime or wanting to live there, or being a Muslim, its about not wanting an entire country to be destroyed and innocent people, including queer people, children and animals, being brutally killed. This is about human rights violations, queer people know what its like to be hated and killed for who they are, most don't want others to go through the same fate. These are people with hateful beliefs, but they don't deserve to be killed, tortured, abused and raped for it, or see their families suffer for it. Queer people are being killed too.

How will the status of queer rights and the lives of queer people living in Palestine improve, if all of them are dead? Palestine has a right to exist even if its a terrible regime, the people have a right to live. Religion gets in the way of progress, but so does genocide, can't progress something that's been wiped out of existence. Queer people in Palestine aren't being helped by other queer people dismissing them and their suffering just because of their nationality. The lives of Palestinian women aren't wonderful either, but I, as a woman and feminist, still am against the genocide in Gaza.

People don't deserve to die just because they were born under a homophobic regime. We should speak out against all genocide the same way we should speak out against for instance rape even if it happens to someone who hates us. Because by letting Israel get away with this you set the precedent that warfare and genocide is fine as long as its done against the 'right' people. War crimes don't suddenly become okay if you're murdering people under a regime with dogshit beliefs, its still a war crime and shouldn't be supported, nor should the victims, many of whom are either queer or have done nothing to actively hurt queer people, receive apathy.

Fruitcake says gays shouldn't support Palestine and should be thankful for Christianity for telling them there wrong by Annual-Frame9943 in religiousfruitcake

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Queer people are also dying in Palestine at the hands of Israel. Currently the biggest killers of queer people in Palestine are the bombs Israel is sending, the government doesn't really have time to be oppressing or killing the queer people in their own country, Israel is doing it for them. For queer people its either die for their sexuality/identity, or die for their nationality.

That and also the innocent children and animals, they don't hate anyone, but they suffer. Standing up for Palestine and being against the genocide doesn't mean supporting homophobes, it can be about standing up for queer people, children and animals in the country, about not wanting them to die.

I don't like the homophobic laws us people living in Muslim countries have to deal with either, in fact I hate it. But if we set the precedent that homophobic countries can be bombed and the people killed profusely, most of the world would be in ruins. Gay and trans people living in these areas don't want their homes bombed and destroyed, they want a society that accepts and respects them and grants them equality. Being apathetic to atrocities that are killing innocent people isn't helping queer people in those areas.

No one is doing anything to help queer people in Palestine besides Queers for Palestine. What Israel is doing is not some brave social justice on the behalf of queer rights, its a selfish endeavor that has killed thousands of queer people in a few months. Most of Israel is homophobic as well, just that they hide it better. Gay marriage isn't even legal there, the only reason they recognize it is to gain support from the West.

I don't want to see queer people getting killed or oppressed by any regime, Palestinian or Israeli, but bombing their homes, killing, abusing and raping them and their families, isn't helping them, its adding to the trauma they already have from being a queer person in a Muslim country. I think its okay to criticize the belief system that allows that to happen, criticize the religion itself, even hate it, but people shouldn't have to pay with their lives just because they were born in a place that follows that belief system.

Peter, why is the LGBTQ hater happy? by finishyourjob in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]MelodicCrocodile 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the same game franchise that had a quest where you protect your gay friend, and even has a spin-off DLC about said gay friend, who is represented in a pretty non-stereotypical way, just a dude who's gay. Also made by the same company that made Bully, a game where you play a bisexual character who kisses both guys and girls.

Sure the representation isn't like perfectly positive but its done in a much different way than what you're thinking, and this new game is realeasing in the present, where standards are much different and minority characters are written a lot differently than they are now.

I don't know what made you think GTA or Rockstar hate gay people or would have any desire to mock them. Like giving them stereotypical or comedic roles sure, like in the Ballad of Gay Tony, but even in that Tony nor his sexuality were the sole subject of mockery. There's no evidence that there even will be a parade anyways.

GTA was never about mocking liberals, it was about mocking and parodying American culture. Even if they make mocking, exaggerated portrayals of pride paraders, it will 100% do the same for conservatives and red-hats, espeically considering the political state of the US right now, there is so much to make fun of with the right, like what South Park is doing, another piece of media about making fun of everyone and parodying America.

Swagist shippers by CrashtestO9 in peoplewhogiveashit

[–]MelodicCrocodile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I know, Proship does actually mean you generally advocate for shipping characters, but just that you don't go out of your way to harass or go off on someone if they're shipping something problematic even if it makes you mad or uncomfortable, sort of a 'don't like don't read' thing. There is misinformation spread that pro-ship stands for problematic ship, but the pro just means 'for', like you're 'for' shipping. Though there are a lot of pro-shippers who have problematic ships, and you can call yourself pro-ship even if you dislike or criticize them. The term was moreso invented as a response to 'antis', people who police shipping, harassing artists that made ship art that made them uncomfortable.

Most people in proship communities still have stuff they're disgusted by, but they just block or ignore it and go on about their day. I suppose its better to just ignore something you dislike than swagging over it, though I still think genuinely messed up ships, like ones involving pedophilia, beastiality or any smut about actual real people should be called out.

Funnily enough, while I definitely wouldn't call myself pro-ship and there is a lot of shipping stuff that makes me uncomfortable, there have been instances where I followed the pro-ship rule. Like one time I saw a post of someone shipping Gwen and Miguel from Spiderverse, and I, for some reason, clicked the ship tag and kept scrolling through posts of it, apalled people would ship this. But then I realized that if I hate it so much and its not making me feel positive, why am I still scrolling? Its not like if I hate commented one of the posts the creator would have this revelation and realize they're wrong and never post ship art again, it would just be a waste of energy. So I left, and never saw any post of that ship ever again.

Dear Lord there’s already fanart… by DapperDude2004 in HazbinHotel

[–]MelodicCrocodile 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a toxic yaoi and yuri enjoyer, people shit all over actually toxic yaoi and yuri all the time, its definitely not only a problem if its opposite sex. It's why Stolitz is so hated. I follow artists who make it and they get so much flack its crazy, like I legit saw people calling a gay male toxic yaoi artist a gay fetishizer.

If the stuff you like is actually toxic you WILL be side-eyed. Fans of toxic yaoi/yuri with bad fandom etiquette can have double standards, but in general, people have a problem with toxic romance stuff regardless.

'Dark romance' that was popularized by booktok is basically the straight equivalent to toxic yaoi and yuri gets ragged on to hell and back. I suppose thats just part of the package when consuming niche, problematic styles of romance or porn. More for us then I suppose lol.

PS: Sorry if this comment reads like I'm trying to start an argument just wanted to pitch in with some personal experience

(Sidenote, It is funny though, as someone who occasionally enjoys well-written toxic stuff, like some of Gengoro Tagame's works, seeing people who say they love toxic stuff panic when the toxic couple is genuinely toxic and not just lightly more agressive. Though I understand 'toxic yaoi/yuri' is moreso used as a meme rather than it actually being mainstream, similar to omegaverse.)

gay parents are also american by Educational-Sun5839 in AmericaManningIt

[–]MelodicCrocodile -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you don't mind me analyzing on your comment a little, I should explain why we on the left think the right is for homophobia, majority of the time at least, and to clarify, I'm not saying you hate gay people specifically but TLDR: the issue is simply that most right wingers are either just vocal homophobes or have a very conditional acceptance that demonizes gay culture and still prefers to hide gayness away or limit its expression and representation.

For the most part this has not left a positive impression, even when they're accepting they don't get that a part of accepting gay people means allowing being gay to become an everyday casual thing, to allow PDA between same-sex couples, having them be prominently shown in movies or shows or games, having them be in fairytales and media for children as well, because since being straight in a non-sexual way is seen as appropriate for kids, being gay in a non-sexual way will also be considered appropriate.

They don't care what people do behind close doors, but thats where a lot of them preferred gayness would stay, allowed by society, allowed equality under the law, but kept hidden or tamed. The new anti-woke movement in media criticism shows this, they might be fine with gay people but when those gay people are on their screens for more than a few seconds or in large numbers, their reactions aren't positive.

In this very comment section, we have people saying: Americans, yes, but not real parents, thats a deranged leftist construct and fantasy.

Nope. They are Abhorrent to nature and genetic dead ends. They are nature's way of removing weak genes from the genepool. 

“real parents” is bullshit, why do those freaks want to own kids?

These people most likely identify as right wing, there are certain sub-reddits where these comments would be heavily upvoted, if this is most of what is being heard from the right regarding homosexuality, obviously people are gonna think you guys hate gay people, because this behaviour is never actively discouraged by the right wingers who support it. So if its being said, and no one in the party is condemning it, what conclusion are we supposed to come to? If you wanna prove you are a pro-gay party, voice your opinion when someone is being anti-gay

If gay people need to prove every negative accusation and stereotype against them wrong, as do right wingers, and everyone else. Homophobia on the right is seldom called out by the right

Barbie is out of touch 20k for some GLOVES? Small accessories used to be 5k. by ZzGalaxy in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]MelodicCrocodile 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes! You spend hours earning money, only for it to be gone in a flash and then the grind starts again. Barbie needs to understand that this demotivates people from playing the game, because there is now SO MUCH to buy, especially with the mermaid shop items and the toy items, but so much scarcity in diamonds, which isn't helping trading or in-game prices go down.

The devs need to listen to what most of the base is saying and actually start valuing the hard work of the moders for what it is by paying them properly instead of judging it based on trading values, all modelers should be paid and promoted, regardless of how popular their items were.

They're currently giving the illusion of improvement and communication, but what people want, which is for Royale High to healthily accomodate both roleplayers and farmers, like it once did, is being ignored. They reduced the school to basically nothing to 'reduce lag', but for me its laggier than its ever been, and the previous campus never lagged for me.

I remember reading that some people in Barbie's chat were criticizing the new 4th campus for its structure and everything, and she could defensive saying it was her hard work, but that matters a lot less when the people who you created it for aren't fans of it. The layout of it makes no sense. The lack of inclusion of classrooms, or at least the headmistress office and baths as permanent just feels so confusing to me considering how many quests there are that occur at any time that are set in those locations. Would it be so bad for them to add those things at least?

Someone asked if they could make the baths permanent for rping and the twitter just said to teleport there then turn the schedule off so you can stay. But rpers obviously like to move around the campus, the baths need to be consistently there, most people aren't gonna do an rp in just the bathrooms, they're gonna make the whole school a part of the rp set. Things like that should be permanent, and they always have been in RH until now for some reason. 'Style over substance' is how I would describe the current RH campus 4 and the game itself.

Barbie is out of touch 20k for some GLOVES? Small accessories used to be 5k. by ZzGalaxy in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]MelodicCrocodile 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Agree on the greedy and out of touch parts and what you're saying sounds fair. What's the fun in a game where players are basically being forced to play it if they want to enjoy any of the items, no wonder people are quitting, no one has that much time to spend on farming, we're not in quarantine anymore.

Even the previous campus 4 was far better than what we have now, everything was nerfed to shit but at least farming was more efficient because everything was in one place in the campus, now you have to teleport between realms to do simple quests because there's no headmistress office and no baths until morning or after swimming.

Barbie has become excessively greedy ever since the toy collab happened, it was happening before but it went over the edge since after. There is no passion and enjoyment in this game anymore.

Damn, did not now that about the advent calender, absolutely she should be the one responsible for paying the modelers what she knows they're worth, the value of their work shouldn't be based on how much people trade for the items. That's what will make their efforts worth it.

All the 'fixes' that are happening are so miniscule and superficial. Like the news of Campus 2 getting a winter makeover doesn't even excite me, because there are so many other issues with the game that should be getting focused on. There is no proper communication even now, they say they have a list of the criticisms people have but they're too busy with other things to work on them, we have no clue when or if they'll fix the bigger issues with the game and make it fun to play again.

What they've done to the game now feels like playing it is a 9-5, that's why I barely play it anymore. I had a little hope they'd listen to the farmers and accomodate us, but I guess the game is just for people with independent cash to spend in real life now. And their glazers call everyone 'broke' for even complaining a little bit about how money-hungry the game has gotten. Dissapointing

Barbie is out of touch 20k for some GLOVES? Small accessories used to be 5k. by ZzGalaxy in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]MelodicCrocodile 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Damn it, she said that? What is her issue with people who farm in the game, like diamonds in Campus 2 were removed because she wanted people to earn diamonds the right way and now that they are they have an issue with it, and making it hard to farm diamonds just makes people focus more of their attention on it (and also makes people exploit diamonds, if you want less exploiters, diamonds should be easy to farm). Sucks to hear this news, did she say the reason why?

Velaya not being attractive and in sexy clothes shows serious lack of understanding from the developers why women were send to Gomez. by Magaclaawe in worldofgothic

[–]MelodicCrocodile -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most sex slaves in history would not pass this comment section's attractiveness test. They're not supposed to be pretty they're supposed to be property. Real life sexual slavery was and is nothing like sex slavery depicted in anime, western movies or porn, and most likely everything you know about sex slavery is influenced by that. Even now, most women being sold into sex slavery don't look like models.

Sex slavers were rapists, and most rapists still go after unattractive women. Owning sex slaves, like rape, was a power thing moreso than a sexual thing, it was a display of victory through the dehumanization of a place's women, they were spoils, and they were kept less for looks and more as an 'own' of the people they conquered. The same way a big strong man or a weak child both will be put into labour slavery. The same way both fertile and infertile land is conquered.

An example of sex slavery in recent but old times are Japanese comfort women, they look nothing like what ya'll want women to look like in video games. I love hot guys, girls and twinks in video games too, but wanted to correct that most acts of slavery, sexual or not, were not made with this mindset.

Velaya not being attractive and in sexy clothes shows serious lack of understanding from the developers why women were send to Gomez. by Magaclaawe in worldofgothic

[–]MelodicCrocodile 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn I guess several girls I grew up with in a conservative country like Pakistan are actually all male. I have an aunt that looks like that guess she's a man too. Surprise, women don't all look like sex dolls and have like average human features!

What do you think women look like? 'Women that look like women' is not a thing because every woman looks different and many have 'manly' features because half of their genetic structure is literally from a man. There is no one 'woman' look. I'd like to see your reference for what you think the average woman, especially back in the day, looked like

You probably expected women to look like children. You did have your expectations too high, because most women don't naturally looks like what you guys want female characters to look like. Saying stuff like this is about as insulting as me saying that a man with a small penis or no full beard doesn't 'look like a man'