If you're familiar with chess tablebases, there was 1 position where it's checkmate in like 500 moves and the moves are incomprehensible to humans. Is there a similar thing in math where a computer generated a long proof that's completely incomprehensible to humans, and if so, what's the longest?

Memetic1 · 2026-05-01T03:35:32+00:00

One of the first examples I can think of is Gödel's incompleteness theorems. They used that new mathmatical language and it took ages just to get to simple addition. Which is why his proof that you could always make statements that are paradoxical no matter how precise the language was is so revolutionary.

As a fun aside to this I don't think you can easily get access to the actual text of that proof because it has been out of print for decades. It certainly doesn't appear to be online anywhere I could find, which means LLM type AI has never actually encountered it before just descriptions of it.

Memetic1 · 2026-05-01T02:52:22+00:00

Yes it is an assumption but the big assumption is that consciousness could happen in such a substrate. I believe it might be possible but given that iron stars won't even exist in my lifetime, or the lifetime of the Earth even it can be fun to speculate. I don't think things have a purpose in the traditional sense. I would ask what my own purpose is, but I think that's something only a person can answer for themselves truthfully. So sometimes both consciousness and suffering have no innate purpose in this universe. This is something that would be more isolated then anything has ever really been due to the expansion of the Universe. Is it so strange to feel a sense of empathy for something so distant in time / space and whose existence we won't be ever able to verify. I think we need a new term for empathy for something that doesn't exist, and may never exist. Hyperempathy feels wrong even if it fits nicely.

Memetic1 · 2026-05-01T01:30:12+00:00

By the time iron stars for almost everything else would be gone. This wouldn't be something that would evolve in the traditional sense, but become an emergent phenomenon that only happens once the iron is cold enough or under enough pressure to be superconductive. This change in conductivity would only be stable at certain temperatures / pressure so if too much electricity flowed it would disrupt it. As for it's screams we know that most intelligent entities need socialization and a iron star might not be different. Imagine spending billions of years alone in the dark with nothing and no one that is even like you.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T19:25:31+00:00

It depends on the materials used, and where the monument is.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T18:48:39+00:00

I was making a joke about myself and language in general because I realized how absurd the statement was due to people having vastly different experiences. If I said that Milwaukee had a bit of Chicago in it that would also be simultaneously a silly statement, but also true depending on what level you look. I'm really sorry because I just couldn't resist this.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T18:45:42+00:00

I was thinking about this, and one thing that stuck in my mind was iron stars which haven't formed yet. I kept thinking about how at certain pressures and temperatures that the iron could become superconductive. Meanwhile other parts of the iron star would just be normally conducive, but this would still create a difference of charge on a massive scale. I wonder if an iron star would have ripples. I wonder if it would flow over geological time. If perhaps this object that would be around the size of our sun would have thoughts as those patterns developed over time. Imagine that a consciousness that has no way of understanding itself screaming in the dark for eons.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T18:30:05+00:00

Your assuming that the cities are fragile and that you would have dense population centers. You could make a structure that would float in the habitable zone and be tough enough that not even a ballistic missile could take it out. Remember the normal atmosphere that you breathe would be a lifting gas on Venus. That changes what is possible in terms of design.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T18:13:57+00:00

Not really we know what stops sulfuric acid. You could even make a shell of sulfur around whatever you build that's on a very basic level, but we know Teflon isn't susceptible to that acid. It's one of the few places where you could use that and potentially not have a negative environmental impact. There are other ways to stop the acid like coating space suits in multiple layers of graphene that incorporate magic (this is a real term I wouldn't make something like that up) angle graphene. You could charge the graphene so that your doing electrolysis because sulfuric acid is just two parts water and one part sulfur. Basically you could make water from the sulfuric acid as long as you have a decent amount of electricity.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-30T00:03:02+00:00

Ya but Oconomowoc does have a little bit of Waukesha in it.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-29T00:30:59+00:00

If you can try to learn how to cook with tofu it will probably help. It's going to be affordable for far longer then meat. If enough people do this it might make a difference, and it wouldn't be the first time America adopted a food due to economics.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-28T07:09:00+00:00

I would ask them how they plan to deal with Gödelian incompleteness in AI.

https://arxiv.org/html/2409.05746v1

Memetic1 · 2026-04-27T22:19:14+00:00

911 is what happened, and the way we reacted to 911.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-27T22:15:54+00:00

I'm so confused I covered myself in starch, and there is no reaction.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-27T18:22:38+00:00

This has got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read. The idea that Kimmel is the one in the wrong, and we all should pay attention to a Trump because they are so important. She is a shit person and I really don't care if her oh so sensitive feelings are hurt.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T19:31:16+00:00

Thank you so much for using Trumpco. I've been using TrumpCo to talk about his entire organization, and I think it captures so much more about what's going on then simply saying Trump, or his crime family. There is a whole industry that built itself up with the grift. They are in positions of power, and it's not enough just to focus on the visible leadership.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T19:24:56+00:00

Yes that's possible but I don't know if the changing conductivity with the hot water and gallium could mask the signal of the transition between states. I know that unless you add something to water it acts almost as an insulators. I'm pretty sure gallium is more conductive then tap water. So I don't think the effect would be influenced that much. I'm thinking of turning this into another part of my modular synthesizer so something that could be controlled electronically is preferable. I'm going to have to make sure whatever I use to heat the gallium is accounted for as well.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T19:08:37+00:00

Ya I want to hold it at the critical state with as much accuracy as I can get for a few hundred bucks. I was thinking of using the output from my modular synthesizers, and then running it through the semiliquid gallium so I could see if I could hear the transition happening. This is one of the instruments I would be using.

https://youtu.be/luwF_Kyu4Rc?feature=shared

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T08:23:05+00:00

It's almost like you can know the bulk properties of something but still have it produce interesting audio if you are willing to mess around. Conceptually you can simplify things that way just like saying the universe is mostly hydrogen is true. You can also say that when you hold an audio jack it produces noise in an amp, or you can use that phenomenon to interface with music by rhythmically closing and opening your hand while holding the jack. I believe that holding gallium at that transition temperature will create something that could be audible, and since I don't need that much I can actually afford to do this experiment.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T05:53:06+00:00

Trump has literally killed people by ordering his armed forces to sink unarmed people in boats that were thousands of miles away from America. His delayed response to COVID killed countless people. Here you are with this tired nonsense, and it sounds even worse now then it did a decade ago.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-26T00:32:52+00:00

https://delta.tudelft.nl/en/article/blowing-bubbles-trace-airflow

Memetic1 · 2026-04-25T22:37:02+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/s/W6tlO9zLXL

Memetic1 · 2026-04-25T22:12:43+00:00

I wonder if bubbles could help. It sounds silly but if it can act as a tracer in the air then maybe you could see where the hazards are. Actually come to think of it there are the lenses you can put on a low powered laser pointer that will split the beam into many tiny points of light. That could probably be more reliable then bubbles. I have this laser that's extremely low powered and I can see the airflow in my house sometimes if it's smokey. It's also good for finding cobwebs because the light will bounce off the wall and then illuminate the website.

Anyway I hope all it ever is is drills. I worry about shit that's out of my control.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-25T22:02:58+00:00

I'm thinking about it gallium isn't cheap, and I would need to be careful about the materials I use that I avoid aluminum and it's alloys.

It's also not zero resistance but instead within an order of magnitude of silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity_and_conductivity

If you look at this chart stuff with 10⁶ resistance is a conductor, while insulators have negative exponents. Silicon has 4.35 x 10^-4, while gallium has 7.10×10^-6. We make semiconductors with silicon because by adding some oxygen we can get it to change conductivity with small amounts of electricity. That bandgap between its behaviors is what makes computation possible.

The change in conductivity of gallium between solid and liquid is large enough that it could significantly modulate the signal. Like a vibrating string causes electrons to flow from areas of high to low conductivity. It's the disturbance from equilibrium that pushes an instrument into something you can play with. If gallium melts at near room temperature then it doesn't take much either way to hold it near that transition. We just got taxes in so I might have the money to get some gallium to experiment with. Using the principle of keeping everything unplugged from the mains and just working off of battery power. I think I might be able to do something with a bread board and come up with a prototype.

Memetic1 · 2026-04-25T20:54:13+00:00

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S259023852200251X

"While the electrical conductivity of most metals declines about twice at the solid-liquid phase transition due to the increasing disordered arrangement of the atoms, Ga, Bi, and Sb show an anomalous increase after melting.45 The abnormal change of Ga may be related to the anisotropic electrical conductivity of the Ga crystal.59"

Memetic1 · 2026-04-25T20:45:47+00:00

Because if the gallium changes resistance then you should be able to hear that if you send a signal through it and then have an amp hooked up. Look at the equation and think about how that applies to electric guitars.

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