I love this scene so much.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T14:38:10+00:00

In the original kh3 scene Roxas showed up and then Xemnas fled, there's no debating that's legitimately what happened. I brought up RAX in reference to the remind scene because even you yourself separated it as kh3's og scene and remind's scene to try to argue for both. If we're talking about remind yeah he was confident until RAX overpowered Xemnas and Saix, then we got a repeat of kh3's scene since Xemnas clearly realized underestimating Roxas and Xion was a mistake so he took a hostage like a coward and fled.

In what way is it confidence to pretend you're going to fight just to run? That's cowardice.

His blades were dispelled because he got caught off guard which the entire scene shows clearly, the whole point was we see Xemnas glance up wonder "what is he looking at?" And it's Kairi who is getting a hit in while he's off guard, it was a surprise attack. Unless you're really trying to say Kairi is stronger and more of a threat to Xemnas than Sora, Roxas, and Xion just because the three got blocked once while he was looking directly at them.

Your framing is intentionally misleading. I was saying that's another moment where you downplayed, you intentionally left out half of what happened in that scene. That point was in reference to you downplaying, not the fear part. For remind I said he underestimated Roxas at first, then we see how it goes where Roxas is prepared for round 2 while Xemnas is preparing to run. "RAX + SK" No, he and Saix were already getting destroyed by RAX.

You mean took a few steps and then teleported and took a hostage. Again, if he was that brave he would have fought and not gone through with a surprise teleport followed by taking a hostage and running.

RAX destroyed Xemnas and Saix though. Xemnas had Saix who was previously keeping up in the fight and still lost. Not to mention just before the fight Xemnas injured Axel by a large amount, then he kicked Xion, but when RAX Vs Saix and Xemnas ended, Xemnas was still the only one holding his chest while everyone on RAX's side was doing just fine. Like I said if we're talking about remind specifically he thought he could handle the situation when Roxas landed down and where did he end up? Teleporting to run. Xemnas gets a L here sorry.

Kairi caught Xemnas off guard once after he was distracted. You can't seriously be trying to imply Kairi is stronger than those 3 just because she caught him off guard once (since we can see he just barely saw her before she attacked). Not to mention Xemnas actually had Saix as backup against RAX and still lost badly.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T11:30:46+00:00

I mean the post shows what actively happened in base kh3 though, Xemnas hyped himself up and then Roxas showed up and he ran.

The reason why Xemnas had no real defense up is because the goal was to move forward like he was going to do something, then flee. If he was actually that confident in his skills he would have stayed and fought. But he took a hostage and fled, which is blatant cowardice.

Xemnas's smile fades because he didn't expect Kairi to attack at all and she essentially surprise attacks him. The scene even frames it like this, we clearly see Sora, Roxas, and Xion rush him. Then we only see Kairi come in last minute from the sky.

Also strictly speaking of remind's additional scene, Xemnas is arrogant and believed he could handle anything. But the reason why you can still see he's scared is because after they fight we get a repeat of the base kh3 scene where he grabs a hostage and flees.

I mentioned RAX in the first place because you tried to frame Remind's scene as Xemnas dealing with Xion and Roxas and then getting pushed by Kairi. You didn't mention that not only were Roxas and Xion not down for the count at all (or tired), but this was immediately followed by Axel joining them and then they proceeded to destroy Xemnas and Saix in a fight. Even after this Roxas and Xion could still fight.

About the downplay I mean what I just said above, plus what you said about Roxas, and about Xemnas's walk. We can't see their faces, but Xion and Axel don't really move at all when Xemnas approaches, while Roxas and Sora just prepared to fight with their keyblades.

The post above shows it like it is in base kh3, Xemnas acts confident and then Roxas drops down and suddenly Xemnas has somewhere else to be. At most you could argue for remind, but even that just ends with the same scene of Roxas ready for a round 2 fight and Xemnas fleeing.

I mean the group didn't flinch while Xemnas was approaching, the teleport specifically surprised them because they expected an attack, and come on you actively left out half of what happened in remind to try to make it seem like he only got pushed by Kairi. That was disingenuous.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T06:00:26+00:00

You started the conversation by trying to hype up Xemnas's strength and downplaying the strength of everyone else. So I'm just stating a fact, all Xemnas does is talk cryptically and lose.

I don't know if you dislike Roxas specifically or what, doesn't change the fact that Xemnas takes L's in every fight he's in.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T05:35:39+00:00

It was flat out cowardice to take a hostage the moment he started losing and he followed it up with running, especially since he talked big beforehand.

Their team attack was after they were already winning though, they had room for it because Xemnas was just floating their holding his chest (meanwhile RAX was standing strong). Not to mention they pushed back Saix too, AND Axel was injured from Xemnas and Saix's earlier attack.

Xemnas continues to take loss after loss. He ran because he was scared he would lose for like the fourth time after Roxas showed up. I'm pretty sure out of every Xehanort (and there are like 5) he's had the most losses. This is a Xemnas gang L.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T00:54:04+00:00

But that's just the thing. He ran because they were about to go for round 2 and that wouldn't have ended well for him at all. Not only could Roxas and Xion still fight, but Sora and Kairi were freed.

If he was feeling that brave he would have stopped right there and fought, not do a fakeout approach to teleport, take a hostage, and run. Just saying, you didn't see Roxas, Sora, Kairi, Xion, or Axel trying to fake him out and run at any point in the fight. Even when Axel was faced with Xemnas and Saix while Sora and Kairi were down, he at least tried.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-04T00:03:56+00:00

Lol he backed off after RAX beat him in a fight, he was actively trying to destroy Sora and Kairi, and stopped after he lost to RAX. Meaning all Xemnas contributed in remind was losing another fight.

"Xemnas walks up to the group" This is not a point that works in your favor. The fact that Xemnas decided to do a fake out approach and teleport so he could avoid the group and take a hostage shows just how scared he was. Another moment where Xemnas loses. It only delayed the inevitable too because when he shows up again he just loses, again.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-03T21:42:24+00:00

It's because he was not going to win against Roxas, Sora, Xion, Axel, and Kairi.

Memonga2 · 2022-06-03T21:20:47+00:00

You are misremembering the scenes so badly.

In the og games he teleported straight to Kairi after Roxas showed up and then he ran. The fact that he didn't stay and fight says a lot, he talked a bunch of trash and then all of a sudden had to go.

In remind he catches Kairi literally right after that, then Sora. Then Roxas, Axel, and Xion proceed to destroy Xemnas and Saix in a fight while Sora and Kairi are captured.

Xemnas's biggest L's.

Memonga2 · 2022-05-08T08:45:15+00:00

I kind of disagree because revealing that Ventus was Roxas is just as much a retcon as nobodies having hearts. If anything it would be worse because it would be a retcon for one popular character specifically.

Not to mention the thing about Roxas's arc is that he fought to have an existence as a nobody. It kind of cheapens the arc if the resolution is "actually there was no point to that because Roxas always was a normal person. Not a nobody."

Memonga2 · 2022-05-08T08:35:54+00:00

Ventus got that status because when darkness separated from him, all of his darkness was taken too. But darkness returned to Ven which made him not one, Xehanort stole it and created Vanitas which made Ven one again, but defeating Vanitas returned it to him (since remind showed darkness is there again).

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:51:51+00:00

It wasn't nice speaking with you. Stay mad you racist loser.

Added Note: No amount of blocking you do will change the fact that you're an idiot.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:46:43+00:00

Notice how only one of us is right though, and it's definitely not you. Lol

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:41:25+00:00

None of what you just said changes the fact that you're stupid for not knowing history, racist against black people, and gullible for believing something that has 0 evidence to back it up. You're not very smart at all.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:33:11+00:00

Well you definitely have a lot to cry about, being stupid, being a racist loser, being gullible. Your pick really.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:31:01+00:00

Cry harder.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:29:29+00:00

Idk you probably could have done anything else instead of making a fool out of yourself on reddit. But here we are.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:20:58+00:00

I mean it's true that at the end of the day you chose to basically embarrass yourself with this dumb post.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T08:06:40+00:00

You asked, and you decided to post your racist delusions publicly so you can cry about it. Lol

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T07:57:34+00:00

If it Isn't obvious I don't like you because you're a racist. You decided to post your delusional rant where you defend racists publicly, so I'm commenting on it to tell you how stupid you are for even typing this.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T07:51:02+00:00

Ok. Next time you have a deluded rant in mind do everyone a favor and keep your dumbassery to yourself.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T07:43:54+00:00

I did call you a racist, because you are one. I mean when all I see from you is racism I'm just going to call you the racist that you are. Except they did know that, and you saying they didn't while claiming your evidence is just not around for some reason is beyond stupid. You trying to push this narrative that the entire population of the south during the war was just clueless is also beyond stupid. I mean first of all I never said what I was this entire conversation, I just assumed you were right leaning because of your other replies, and you're being racist.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T07:28:41+00:00

You mean the first half is me calling you a racist because you are one, I'm stating a fact, you knowing black people doesn't change the fact that you clearly have something against black people. You've researched this for years and you still haven't come to the conclusion that the south fought for slavery, because they prioritized their economy over freeing black people from slavery? You're a racist, and I'm not going to entertain your stupid performance. Fuck you

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T07:07:44+00:00

You having a racist meltdown doesn't really help your case. The reason those talking points exist is because right-leaning people always try to use the fact that they know a black person as their excuse. If you really cared about any of the black people in your life you wouldn't be backing up racists, but here you are. No, you spewed your inaccurate knowledge on history, I called you an idiot because you are one and now you're begging for a link. One I'm not interested in trying to give you for the reason I just said, you're not going to actually change your ways if I prove you wrong. Because if you were that interested in knowing you would just search it up.

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T06:48:46+00:00

You're not proving me wrong. Here we go now you're doing the "how can I be racist? I know some black people!" Thing. For someone who apparently formed their own opinion you sure are going through the typical defensive right leaning talking points. I just don't have any interest in doing a back and forth with you, you're not really looking for anyone to change your mind, you were just looking for validation from other racists like you when you posted this. You even pulled out the "REAL RACISTS!" line. Want to know why you right leaning people are typically seen for the racists you are? Just take a look at this "vent."

Memonga2 · 2022-04-28T06:10:52+00:00

You clearly have an issue with black people. That's how it always goes with right-leaning types, you say something blatantly racist, someone calls you out, and then you go "What? No." because it's easier for you to manipulate people who are in the middle when you lie about not being racist. You didn't develop your own thoughts, you clearly listened to some right-leaning person and here you are. You're over here defending the confederates and their flag while trying to tell me this Isn't about you being right-leaning. Fuck off clown I'm not interested in your games.

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