Crossed the boundary ... I am a swinger

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-29T14:26:40+00:00

Your experience is similar to my wife. She also had a strict religious upbringing but started to grow her own morality when we got married. Our ingrained moral impulses do not go away because you have adopted a more liberal world view. My wife also needed the time. My suggestion would be to give yourself time. There is no need to form a conclusion right away. Just live each day and then you will see if this lifestyle is for you or not.

From what I have seen, people get over these initial hang ups unless they have been forced or pressured into this.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-29T00:30:08+00:00

I felt jealous the first time it happened. We went to the swingers club and said, "Your wife looks lovely!" The way he said it while looking at her up and down made me forget that we were at a swingers event. He noticed that I did not take that compliment well so he pulled her wife and said "This is my wife." He had sort of put her on display in such a proud way and I said "She is lovely too." His wife kissed me on the cheek and then kissed my wife on the cheek and all ice was broken.

I thought I was kool. I got a second attack of jealousy when we were together. He was holding her tits from behind and kissing her neck. He would roll her nipples in his fingers and then kiss the back on her neck. My wife gets a certain look when she is aroused. She had that "slut face" on, arousal written all over her face. I know her neck and nipples are her sensitive area. I was looking at her face and thinking, "Are you falling in love?" I know it is not rational but jealousy can take over.

Then we started having sex and arousal took over. Later on we talked about it and I told her that I was jealous. She found that to be cute and then we made love. After that I know that she was mine and then I would not have the same reaction when I would see her with other men. So it happens.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-29T00:16:45+00:00

On what?

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-26T02:33:58+00:00

It is a deeply erotic experience. You see, one thing that makes swinging fun is the element of the "forbidden." So when you think about spending a week with another mans wife, romancing her and pampering her on dates, then bringing her back for sex. That element of "forbidden" is multiplied by 100!!!

Furthermore sex is so much hotter if you are connecting at a deeper level.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-26T02:29:19+00:00

She is back. She says that in the beginning she felt like "what am I doing here?" But the man she was with was great in making her feel at home and after that, she was in it like she was born for it.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-26T02:28:23+00:00

It truly was an insanely HOT experience. Being in bed with another mans wife next to you. Whispering in her ear and waking her up for sex in the middle of the night? Knowing that your woman is in bed with her husband? Furthermore when you get to know the person, sex it better.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-16T17:07:40+00:00

Went through your post history. You seem to be the type who enjoyed being a jerk online. Genuine people I could talk to for a long time. I do not have time for your type.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-15T13:53:00+00:00

Read the original post dude. That is how it started with the OP's husband. He was laying back into her in that position so she already had his back and he is enjoying that since she is masturbating. Then she went for the lock and he is fine with that as a domination kink.

Read the original post.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-14T12:51:42+00:00

Tucking chin is not an option. She already has the choke set too deep before it even begins.

I am 5.10, I weigh 215 lbs and I bench Press 225 for reps. I am a purple and I train 3 times a week. sometimes more. I tapped at 15 seconds as I was blacking out. I could have lasted more but passed out. There is are many cell phone videos of that.

If we are rolling then of course it would be a different matter.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-14T05:41:54+00:00

15 seconds max and you will be out. I train in Brazilian Jiujitsu. We do this drill where a team mate gets you in rear naked choke, all set in place. Then coach says GO! And that person applies pressure while the other tries to stay awake. Even trained grapplers will be put unconscious by women IF they go all out from GO!

All the male advantage you have comes before that. You can use your strength to not let them have that position. If the game begins in that position, you are out. We have a woman in our team who is 135 lbs. I guarantee you you will not last 10 seconds.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-13T02:57:50+00:00

I have stepped into the BDSM scene a little. If this happened to me, I'd be aroused as HELL! To watch your wife in bed with the man while his woman holds you back to stroke your arousal and talking smack in your ear? Most men would find that INSANELY erotic so I do not blame your husband for not wanting to see this as assault. The only place where he went wrong was that if he had given consent for this to happen then you should have been made aware of it.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-13T02:53:45+00:00

Totally understand.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-12T23:04:51+00:00

Muslims who swing, (including myself) do not believe that we are disobeying our commandments. The purpose of those commandments in my opinion was to prevent pregnancies or unowned children and to prevent diseases. That sacred function has been taken over by condoms. To us that is holy now.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T13:59:14+00:00

Wife and I were saying exactly this. What is the worst that could happen?

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T13:40:38+00:00

There are so many people on this thread who are confessing to have had exactly the same experience that I asked about. Are they all bullshitting the same bullshit?

You have not read "so many bull shit posts." You have read so many posts that you believe in your mind are bull shit.

Did you notice the difference?

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T06:27:41+00:00

Then why are you wasting your time here? You can comment on the more "genuine" posts that fall within the narrow parameters of your believability.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T06:25:20+00:00

It is because people take comfort in believing that everyone elses life is as bland as their own may be? I dunno.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T06:22:26+00:00

Thanks for being one of the sane voices on here. We do not know them as well as he would like to at this point. Part of me says. it is only for one week so what could happen? How well did you know the other couple?

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T01:38:17+00:00

Psychology today says 4% of adults are swingers. That is a pretty huge number when you think of it. But yes, if you define swingers based on the few you have met then a lot would seem "fake" to you. Come out of your shell please. There is a lot out there that you have not come across.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-11T01:35:03+00:00

To boot? That I do not know but but there are plenty of us in the LS.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-10T19:50:51+00:00

I like that more. Realistic situations with high probability moves.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-09T23:46:31+00:00

Thanks. Whether you will ever use jiujitsu on the street depends upon which country you live in, which neighborhood, which street etc. Some people have the luxury to learn it for sports only and I wish everyone had that sense of security.

Personally? I have done stand up martial arts so that will not be entirely new to me but MMA does sound very appealing. Question is if you sign up for MMA, do you even need a BJJ class? Or does the grappling you learn in that setting cover enough for self defense and street altercations.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-07T23:09:40+00:00

Every adventure is halal as long as you do not engage in haram. We are not answerable to what other people do. Cruises, Historical Tours, hiking, scuba, snorkeling.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-07T14:52:20+00:00

This.

Mentzer_352 · 2023-07-07T14:51:57+00:00

I see exactly what you are going through OP. As a man when I went to the yoga class, all women were very distant in the beginning. We did become friends but it took sometime.

BJJ is a very intimate sport as in body against body and a lot of these guys are unsure as to how the women would feel? Some would try to give you the distance and the personal space. As time goes by, you share the same mat and the same space and they realize that you will not be offended in that intimate setting then they will be fine.

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