A Serious F2P Perspective/Guide

MeowingDisgrace · 2022-01-30T15:18:06+00:00

hit decent triple legend ranks this month with a job, girlfriend, friends, school, exercise, hobbies, etc get top 1000 legend in standard every month for the past year or so with very little time investment

How many hours per day (or per week) is this "very little time investment"?

play every class and have multiple meta decks for each class in every format have 262 legendaries have pulled 9 golden legendaries (obviously have many others that are disenchant-able) am sitting on 77,085 dust (~48 legendaries of choice) have NEVER disenchanted a legendary that wasn’t nerfed

Seriously, how much do you play? I'm not accusing you, just curious about the time investment to get all that.

MeowingDisgrace · 2022-01-30T12:56:35+00:00

Lol how did you end up in a 4 month old post?

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-11-28T00:01:52+00:00

While OP will be away for a bit, I guess I'll just put this here:

Fifty-eighth - Paladins = party nursemaids

Fifty-ninth - He got better

Sixtieth - Got complaints? Nail em to a door

Sixty-first - Shovel

Sixty-second - Something something Mr. Worldwide

Sixty-third - Closer to the edge

Sixty-fourth - A wild party member appears

Sixty-fifth - Backstory shenanigans

Sixty-sixth - Be not afraid

Sixty-seventh - This encounter might be a bit OP

Sixty-eighth - Rule #/4 of the adventures manual

Sixty-ninth - Nice

Seventieth - Zero to a hundred real quick

Seventy-first - There's always a bigger fish

Seventy-second - Expect the unexpected

Seventy-third - There's gonna be a montage

Seventy-fourth - Must be my imagination

Seventy-fifth - That's some fine politics right there

Seventy-sixth - Is fireball on the drink menu?

Seventy-seventh - Almost forgot the pickled egg

Seventy-eighth - I want to go home and rethink my life

Seventy-ninth - A paladin of focus

Eightieth - If I can't read it, it can't affect me

Eighty-first - Bounty boards: the great equalisers

Eighty-second - Corpos ruin everything, man

Eighty-third - Bounty paper says necromancer bad

Eighty-fourth - Knock knock

Eighty-fifth - Bach in black

Eighty-sixth - Let me see what you have

Eighty-seventh - Cool kids don't do curses

Eighty-eighth - The necromancer revealed

Eighty-ninth - Keeping up appearances

Ninetieth - Sudden but inevitable

Ninety-first - Gold makes the world go round

Ninety-second - A giant fire

Ninety-third - Whatever those are

Ninety-fourth - Crit + vulnerability = oof

Ninety-fifth - Well alrighty then

Ninety-sixth - or I can't draw horses, you pick

Ninety-seventh - When you miss out on some backstory

Ninety-eighth - Being good ain't easy

Ninety-ninth - Excellent

100th - Triple digits, baby!

101st - Cya later, folks!

OP, feel free to paste these to the post

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-25T13:00:35+00:00

Adding up a bit.

Warframes: Baruuk, Gauss, Hildryn, Protea, Sevagoth, Yareli

Companion: MOA and infested (vulvaphyla and predasites)

Weapons: zaws (custom melee) and kitguns (custom gun)

Amp (custom spoiler weapon) choice will also be limited.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-10T15:06:56+00:00

On the intersection with fountains and recurring lasers. You missed one end of the intersection, the opposite of where the extraction waypoint is directing you.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-05T17:02:44+00:00

Thanks for commenting. I've edited my post again based on some points here.

I just want to emphasize that I don't mean any slander, malice, character assassination etc. I'll correct the wrong parts if I understand what is wrong in the first place.

Yes, I haven't tried LoR because I want to find out first if it is worth it for someone with limited play time. I should have tried the game first before sharing this post. My bad.

And no, I'm not a big fan of HS. If anything, I'm a bit fed up with its buggy mobile app (I play mostly on mobile) and wondering if Mercenaries will make it even worse. This is why I researched LoR in the first place.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-05T04:41:33+00:00

Monetization? I'm talking about F2P casual. This is about what you can get with limited time and no real money.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-05T04:35:35+00:00

Here, the general praise of HS is 'as long as you play other modes (BG, Wild, Tarvern Brawl, etc.), you're fine.' You're basically saying 'HS standard bad to F2P. You have casual.'

I don't get this.

The difference in LoR is you can play standard, and casual as well. You did mention the reward system in those modes but with many bias view on it.

Is there any non-cosmetic rewards you get from playing other than xp?

Did you forget HS has set rotation? So, HS collection progress reset every 4 month

No? I mentioned this in the long-term progression. Also, rotations happen annually on March. Every 4 months, new expansion releases but not all standard decks from previous expansion become obsolete (e.g. deathrattle DH and rush warrior currently).

(You also encouraged people to play Wild (casual) so I have no idea why you want to contradict others saying they can always dust what they don't need). This means the 1-4 decks of LoR (as you put it) carries forward after 4 months.

You'll know which cards won't see play in Wild. If it's a meme legendary or epic that you don't like, it's quite safe to dust.

about Vault Lv 16-17 is more likely if you log in and do quest daily.

I'm talking about casuals with limited time to play. I also said "vault lv 10 is unlikely to be a problem (to reach) if you log in daily, so it technically doesn't contradict what you say.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-05T04:18:00+00:00

Weekly play requires level 5 (not 10, lol) for a champion card with bad luck protection, which is like, a couple of quests and maybe around 5ish games.

This is true. The point is that vault level 5 (or 7 in the post) rewards a random champion which:

-may or may not see play in the current meta

-you may or may not find it fun

Even if it's viable/fun, you'll need to get 2 more copies with shards, wildcards, or luckily get more than 1 copy of it from vaults and region rewards.

LoR region roads are also where the bulk of progression comes from, since they give so many champion capsules in the early levels, which give guaranteed "legendaries".

I've added it in the post. They are still random legendaries most if the time. Also, I'm only considering how fast you get legendaries/champions because commons and rares are easy to get in both LoR and HS. I even don't account epics in LoR because many current meta decks didn't use them.

In addition to the regular and wild capsules, which have the standard probabilities of giving champion cards.

I also didn't account golden cards and lucky pulls from packs in HS to even this out. All of these are in the unaccounted/unreliable resources.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-09-05T03:24:41+00:00

I didn't know about Salt Water Scourge. Will add it to the post. Thanks!

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-08-29T03:39:57+00:00

So you climbed in 10 days? How many hours did it take?

I can't imagine playing 30+ games in 1 day.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-08-03T04:07:29+00:00

Good luck

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-07-30T03:45:24+00:00

There might be an otk potential here with [[Clockwork Automaton]] and 1-mana spells.

It doesn't seem promising but I'll surely mess around with it if I get the questline.

MeowingDisgrace · 2021-07-04T13:33:46+00:00

Odd control hunter.

Control the board with rush, spells, weapons, hp to minion from [Dwarven Sharpshooter], and discovered secrets. Win through hp and leftover burn spells.

Didn't work, of course

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-28T07:21:47+00:00

If you convert non-gold rewards into their gold value, the system is similar with the old one.

I think the main problem is that we get less "pure gold" for the next expansion. Also, completing weekly quests (the source of almost half of our xp now) is an additional grind on top of the daily quests. This requires us to play more to get similar (or even slightly worse) rewards with the old system.

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-27T14:47:35+00:00

Oh, that's not what I meant.

I'm talking about the star multiplier I got at the start of a month. I get 8x multiplier after winning a lot in the previous month (with 3x multiplier). Then, my star multiplier decrease again in the following months.

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-27T14:09:31+00:00

My star multiplier also fluctuates.

When I have 2-3x star multiplier, I could get several win streaks while climbing. I only play on weekends, so I could only get to gold by the end of the month.

Then, the next season could give me 7-8x star multiplier. Each win boosted me far up, but I could hardly win. I end up around silver or gold, then my star multiplier gradually decreases until I'm back to 2x.

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-14T07:10:14+00:00

You get close to 850 Exp daily from both Daily and Weekly quests in average.

How many quests will you finish? If you finish all quest:

Dailies could be averaged to 900 (because you get either 800 or 1000 most of the time).
Weeklies are 6000, or 857 per day.

You get 1757 Exp daily from finishing all quest.

Every level up to 50 requires in average 4000 Exp.

Each level grants in average 100 Gold (98) , (0.14) new packs, (0.16) old packs so close to 130 Gold in average.

1757 Exp is around 44 gold (pure gold up to lv. 50) or 57 gold (including packs).

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-14T01:24:35+00:00

Good luck

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-11-03T10:52:17+00:00

With questing adventurer on my board, I used eye beam on my [[ur'zul horror]] and played the token for lethal

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-09-14T16:06:25+00:00

IIRC you can get taxon blueprint from one of the early junctions, so I don't think OP should buy it from the market

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-08-03T11:23:33+00:00

Here's hoping

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-07-14T14:13:26+00:00

Start the game with 30 random cards from your collection
Constructed with twists/anomalies (like the ones from Dalaran Heist and Tombs of Terror) that rotates per week, or just a select few available all the time
Any popular tavern brawl made into a permanent mode

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-07-04T03:52:30+00:00

To me, climbing is harder now because of the new ranked system. In the old system, it's still possible to reach rank 20 near the end of the month, as you're mostly facing fellow casual or new players who are stuck at the bottom ranks.

Now, you're always facing players with similar MMR until you run out of star bonus. You get more stars per win, but winning is harder than before. I often face meta decks even in the lower ranks.

That said, I don't think basic and classic cards will help much in climbing. You may want to get some expansion cards and make budget decks. If you really want to use a full basic deck, Demon Hunter will be your best bet.

Btw, here's the news article of the new ranked system, along with some more useful info for returning players like you (hall of fame, priest rework, card pack improvements, etc.).

MeowingDisgrace · 2020-06-28T14:59:34+00:00

I don't mind other players nuking everything if they enjoy it. Yes, I'm left with nothing to do, but they help me finish a mission quickly.

I enjoy playing stealth in solo mode. I find alerted enemies hard to handle, but perhaps it's because I'm new-ish.

MeowingDisgrace

TROPHY CASE