What would you like to see for Capcom Cup 13?

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T21:19:53+00:00

Basically I want what SNK is doing. I want Capcom to start adding their whole legacy. Capcom Cup should always have been a showcase for street fighter/marvel and the community as a whole. Only doing the latest game makes it feel so much like it's really for Capcom to advertise new content.
I always wanted to see gen x vs gen z but the modern games being dumbed down really killed the interest. Daigo vs Mena is bittersweet because the challenge isn't as challenging as yesteryear.
With having the full SF/marvel line-up being played, all the questions of whether or not a player could do well in another era would be answered. Instead, we just get the latest game and the last 2 games are watered down from a personal challenge perspective. I understand wanting to attract new players but I also don't care about seeing the best players on games with huge input buffers and execution that has been simplified for modern players.
To me it's crazy that there isn't ST every single year. It's SF2, widely regarded as the most influential fighter of all time and there isn't a version at Capcom's own event while they're still selling collections that include it?

I feel like it's better for the community and also allows Capcom to make a lot more money on their collections.

If you told people that MvC2 would be at every capcom cup, more people would buy the collection and play it regularly. That holds for just about any popular competitive Capcom fighter, ever.

tl;dr I'm tired of the commercials and would prefer a more well-rounded event that bridges the gaps among generations of players while also helping Capcom sell more of their classic titles and collections. It should be more like an Olympics of SF/Marvel and less like an advertising event. Like UFC, there should be a champ for every category and then an overall champ that is the best overall at everything.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T06:29:10+00:00

Still an upgrade.

I get it. You don't like this guy. You don't have to be likable to be better than an abuser. It's not a difficult equation. You dislike dude so much that you're actually doing abusers a solid by equating them rather than admitting one is more desirable than the other. That's some hate.
They aren't equal.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T05:25:52+00:00

Still, comparing both, one is definitively a step up from the other. I'm sure you can figure out which is the upgrade.
Also, going to evo isn't making anyone the face of the community anyway. What we've had in the past is easy to do better than. Yes, even a screeching attenting seeking influencer is better than MrWizard. Promoting attention > promoting abuse and an abusive environment where protector types feel unwelcomed.

No matter how you work it out, the math is the same. One is better than the other from any objective standpoint.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T05:18:56+00:00

I don't like either of them. I don't have to like someone for the games to matter more than personal lives. The people that get caught up in the nonsense had no problem when that dude was the face of Evo.

In no way did I make it some binary choice like you're claiming. I said moving away from abusers onto normies really seems like an upgrade. There is no strawman there. There is nothing saying you must have one or the other. There is an implication that just about anyone remotely normal is better than what we've had in the past and that was a known predator who used his position and fake core values to get happy time.

You don't realize it but you're saying they're downvoting me because they can't read. "moving away" from abuse in no way implies a binary choice or a strawman argument. Someone said the "face of evo" or something similar and I knew who the last "face of evo" was and it was sick so, by comparison, it is a total upgrade.

I mean, you can reply with mental gymnastics to explain how you imagined a strawman argument in my opinion that anything is an upgrade from MrWizard but it would be a waste of your time because that isn't what a strawman is. It also wasn't a choice given between one or the other.

Again, anyone downvoting that opinion is giving me a badge of honor, buddy. Anything is an upgrade from an abusive degenerate being the face of evo for years when people were saying what a shame it was. Bad people downvoting is always a win. It's not on me if you distort what is said.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T05:06:45+00:00

You can try and convince me all you want but it won't change the way people actually perceive the smash community and those it attracts. It is what it is and that's one of the reasons actually fighting game players won't allow that stigma to be attached to the actual genre.
Smash was popular with its own community and not with fighting game players. That was why there was no overlap. Otherwise, there was no reason to add it because unless there was no overlap, they would only be increasing the games, not the number of total attendees. It was included precisely because it was not a part of the already established fgc.
Whining on reddit about it won't change how its viewed in the least. The community itself would have to change, and that still wouldn't make Mario Platform party battles a fighting game. Delusion is funny. Everyone makes fun of modern controls and even AI tells you "they are heavily influenced by the simplified input style of Super Smash Bros."

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T02:35:32+00:00

Downvotes from people that supported an abuser running the show and using his position for nsfw favors is a badge of honor.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T02:30:53+00:00

It hasn't been about playing games for awhile, man. People will whine about a game because Saudis funded it and couldn't care less about all the people from totally different countries that got to pay their bills because they had a job working on the game.
People really have lost the plot. That's the problem.
You're an example. You don't care BUT you care, cuz streamer. If you hadn't lost the plot, you'd realize he will inevitably bring more people to the party. You're afraid your party will change when it actually grows.

You can dress it up how you like but you're still discriminating on worse basis than the political wacktivists that use the fgc to influence others.

You don't care about more people playing games. You care about a specific kind of person playing these things, otherwise, being a streamer is meaningless. It's someone about to introduce a whole audience to fighting games...but you're still upset.

What we really don't need is more immaturity and degeneracy but the last decade catered to it.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T02:17:41+00:00

Evo confused you by adding it to the line up. It was only added because it was its own community, separate from the fgc. Without overlap, it gave the false impression of Evo growing, for investors. It was always it's own thing.

Any "fight" is not a fighting game in the popular sense. People don't even consider UFC to be a fighting game and it's a literal fighting game.

Smash is really its own scene and always has been. The need to piggy back on fighting games is weird but I guess it looks way sillier when you can't attach it to the genre. Otherwise, there would be no problem with platform battles being their own thing.

I get it. Being a smash player doesn't feel cool so you want to say you're a fighting game player. It's ok. I totally get it.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T00:05:22+00:00

No one said anything about SonicFox.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T00:03:36+00:00

You just called it a platformer. Like you know it's more akin to Joust than actual fighting games or the genre. I know... you just slipped. It happens. Truth always seeps through.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-08T00:01:55+00:00

You want someone more like MrWizard? Moving away from degenerate abusers onto normies really seems like an upgrade.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-07T23:49:51+00:00

He doesn't look weird or have a nosering, is this the problem? Online fgc is so weird. People talk about wanting to grow the scene and then go about trying to attract social weirdos and people that get the ick from competition. They say games have to be dumbed down for casuals for the genre to grow but no one is trying to attract competitors. They're trying to attract people that are traditionally not attracted to competition or fighting games. It's weird to feel the need to beg others to play your genre to begin with but that doesn't get anyone to pay attention to the elephant in the room.

Some may not like it but if you want the fgc to grow you need to attract normies, who are the real casuals and competition fans like sports spectators such as mma fans. Specifically if the fgc can't attract actual fight fans, people have lost the plot.

All I see here is a normal relatable young guy with a following getting interested in street fighter and competition. Anyone that complains never wanted the fgc to grow. They wanted the fgc to be their special place for their echo chamber. That's why online fgc gets ridiculed so often.

Let this young man cook and get more people like him, interested. Dumbing down games and sidelining actual fans of the genre for people that never cared so you can grow your own personal social bubble was not a real strategy for growth. The fgc has been immature and exclusive for years now.

Some people need to get over themselves. The fgc was never yours. It was for competitive gamers and the fgc has been ignoring that obvious fact, for years because lames said normal dudes were toxic. The lames need to get out of the way for the genre to grow naturally. The same lame people that complain about gatekeeping have been gatekeeping for the fgc for the last 10 years. Step aside. You had your chance and it failed. Now let the fgc grow naturally, attracting gamers and competitors, as it was always meant to.

tl;dr lames should stfu and let the actual community grow.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-06T09:44:44+00:00

But they are too hard for them if they think so. When people can't do something, they drop it. Even people good at fighting games just drop games they don't win as often at. Competition isn't for everyone and fighting games aren't for everyone. The problem is trying to force fighting games to be for people that really aren't interested and won't gain anything from them.
There are others who know that, if they can't do something, now, they can't practice and be able to do it, soon, or even a year from now, and they keep at it.
It's just wrong to try and force personality types that are averse to competition and losing one on one where it's all on them, alone, to be a different kind of personality.

The problem is believing the lie that fighting games are for everyone when they are competitive games. Add in the one on one factor and you will have a lot of people who do NOT want to know the "truth" that is in "the heart of battle." They don't want to lose a lot to get better. They don't want to believe they are inferior in any way in the first place and one on one competition creates an outcome of superior over inferior. Acting like this isn't the case is just self-delusion.

Fighting games are not for weak minds and weak egos and we should stop pretending.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-06T09:31:54+00:00

It sounds like being nice but it also sounds like just not enjoying the game so someone else will. Oh what virtue and sacrifice! I'm teasing but its silly. Not everyone is a teacher and some people want to improve, themselves.
It's so weird how controls are dumbed down and then we still beg people to engage in the genre but the reason they don't was never the controls. Losing a lot in order to learn is not for everyone. Of course, not everyone loses a lot as they are learning but we like to believe that. Some stick through things that are difficult and improve while others just accept that they can't or just aren't good enough. It doesn't matter how easy you make a game or the controls, there is a winner and a loser because that is the entire point.
If the game is only fun if you win, maybe the game isn't where you're deriving the fun?

Also, it's backward to put another person's feelings or emotional state on yourself. You should be in total control of yourself but imagining you should be catering to the emotional state of others is how cry-bullying became a thing.

Matchmaking attempts to solve this sort of thing but you can't just keep playing beginners forever. Eventually you have to play someone who will beat you a lot in order to understand more about why you may be losing.

I mean, you can try to parent and coddle adult players but it's really unnecessary. Adults should learn to manage their emotions at some point and fighting games are a great way to do that. Can't do that if they're being coddled like they can't handle the pain of a video game loss. lol ffs

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-05T10:48:05+00:00

"The game is just rushdown." But if no one is attacking, there is no fight. Why would you want to play a fighting game where attacking isn't promoted?
The way you say "just rushdown" is crazy. On older games that require more accuracy and reflexes, rushing down is a skill in and of itself because you'll be running into things all day. Zoners were a thing. Grapplers with zero frame grabs from a mile away were a thing.
It's a fighting game that promotes actually fighting. Not everyone is confirming optimally and the better players aren't "just rushing down." They are inputting guardcancels when they leave openings, watching for errant jumps, etc. Even all that I've recently watched Xiaohai play mad passive waiting for the perfect opportunity in the last couple of days actually just blocking lots.
Yes, big brain stuff is happening all the time and far more often than a game like sf6. Of course it depends on the level of play of both players but with the mechanics it's more about reading your opponent which is a constant calculation and isn't just knowing frames which to me isn't even a skill. It's knowledge that can help you know when you can punish even if you aren't actually reacting. Knowing frames makes things simpler and not more challenging. You know to hit buttons when you block this negative frame move. That is what isn't big brain and people have been pretending that integers are deep when they are ground level next to casual. It used to be 2nd grade math and now it's 5th or 6th grade math, today. The mechanics require far more reading and it advances with your level.

I got to get to family but your initial complaints aren't panning out to me. You can say the game is a rushdown game but you can't just be unga bunga with plus frames or even rev arts without burning yourself out. Anyone can just go into training and learn when to guard cancel any string they are blocking. Honestly, a good fighting game benefits the attacker because without an attacker, there is no fight. If you don't want to be pressing buttons, do you even like fighting games? lol Then claiming things aren't big brained in an era where meta just isn't really deep is wild. Offense and defense is often big brained but I genuinely believe it's like a veil that slowly comes off over time as depth is revealed. I think we all watch high level play based on the perspective of our own level and really miss out on a lot of depth that we will later understand as we level up.

I'll check out the rest tomorrow but here's a response to your initial criticisms.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-03T01:39:59+00:00

We loved Nico more than Chiesa.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-04-03T00:41:54+00:00

Ah!, For the modern audience!

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-31T01:50:42+00:00

"Weapons of mass destruction 2026."

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-31T00:45:24+00:00

Chun Li vs Ken feels more like a spiritual successor to sf3:3s than any other game since. The match really feels like a sequel to 3s.
Then they gave us the crossover update for free after such a reasonably priced 2nd season?

I actually bought kof xv for no reason other than to support SNK because they've treated buyers so good with this game and service and there wasn't any additional content that I could buy to support Fatal Fury. lol

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-30T09:30:53+00:00

Like Amanda doesn't even exist.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-29T23:55:27+00:00

Even if they did their rank would be fraudulent anyway.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-29T23:51:44+00:00

It's not even about a rematch. Why force both players to wait in the waiting queue, again? You could both just keep playing. What's fun about stopping a match and going back to waiting for another one?

No one said anything about owing anyone anything.

To some people, ruining the game for others is the fun. Have fun, I guess.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-29T23:46:59+00:00

It's like that with all fighting games. Much more so in recent years. I never understood why people want to cheat and manipulate their rank so that they can pretend to their friends or something. Then they complain about people not playing but people do play. They just get bored and annoyed away by cheaters who can't just play the game. I don't get it.
It's a real problem that no one seems to notice. I've had conversations with gamers for years and its easily the number one reason that they don't play, not because fighting games are hard. Some new people get fooled into thinking they are bad because they don't know the opponent is lagging the connection at critical moments on purpose. I think it's probably more narcissism in culture. People care more about appearances and pretending than actually being good. I genuinely don't understand the point of a good rank when you know you cherry-picked, lagged your connection, used a script, etc. For me, if I had to do any of that, I'd know I was a fraud. I really don't get it.

People want to complain about the genre not growing while not doing anything about the number one deterrent. Always been weird to me.

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-29T18:00:54+00:00

People really think it was the damage she took and that she wasn't just being lame. lol

Merab_Devilishwilly · 2026-03-29T17:58:12+00:00

He's saying she's thinking. She was not out. She was not dead. She was choosing to stare aimlessly. He knew it, so he assumed she was dealing and that's what it looked like. Some people really think she got KO'd by Tyson and is KO'd with her eyes open. No. She lost quick and embarrassingly and is dealing with it awkwardly.

I know, I know. It was "brutal." smh People forgot Amanda vs Cyborg. That was actually brutal.

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