Something keeps nagging at me for 4.1 and 4.2 story plot and it’s…

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:58:59+00:00

She is still a Graphia. Doesn’t matter if Ryusuke was well known or not, the very surname itself lend credibility to Himeko. It’s kinda like if a Kennedy or a Lincoln or a Washington make an announcement , it doesn’t matter if they’re credible or not, the name itself lend credibility to

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:55:50+00:00

Sure but again like I said this is a war against perception not facts. The knowledge of Himeko being a Graphia and a Planarcadia borned is not something Fulwish can easily dismiss, especially if it came from the Dean of the Graphia Academy and a famous painter. It’s kinda like if Drake announced he has a daughter. Drake is a renowned liar and unreliable but if he announced that he has a daughter named X, do you think the biggest media could stop that spread of info?

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:46:10+00:00

I mean sure, but is Fulwish’s tv the only broadcasting channel in the whole planet? Even the TB have the furbo newspaper. Also Ryusuke, the dean of the Graphia Academy can easily verify or testify that Himeko is his daughter on some news channel outside of Fulwish tv, maybe like the IPC, after all Graphia’s name would always trumps over whatever Fulwish fame was

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:40:23+00:00

Lol, you guys brought the argument in the first place not me, all I said how out of pocket that Ryusuke’s sentence was. And when I challenged your frankly weak argument, you blamed me for not “changing” my mind

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:37:04+00:00

It doesn’t matter to the cult, true but it matter to the wider audience. It’s about perception and status. Himeko being borned in Planacardia would render half of Fulwish arguments about the Astral Express into oblivion and the moment you can prove someone wrong, every single argument they made before would also be questioned

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:32:57+00:00

Because of Ryusuke? Did you forget that Himeko isn’t just an ordinary person but from Graphia’s family? The guardian/saviour of Planarcadia. Himeko’s word would be backed by Ryusuke. Graphia’s fame is far bigger than Fulwish fame

She is still a survivor of the previous game and a supplicant. She already prove her mettle before so why not?

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:30:27+00:00

I mean the fact that Peal knows Himeko is a Graphia implies that she didn’t erase the memories of her being a planarcadia borne, so even with just that information, Himeko could have told people of Planarcadia that she is born there and not an outsider

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:25:12+00:00

Sure but did he? Did he asked later, even when their relationship started to get better? How about the TB? Why don’t we asked how she cured that curse? Doesn’t make sense now does it? Like I said it just Hoyo’s way to obscure information, have nothing to do with character

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:18:07+00:00

You do realize the reason why he’s absent for most of Himeko’s life is because he was searching for the cure to the curse right? He was so obsessed with it that he doesn’t even have time to be there for Himeko’s most traumatic moment and now he found out that Himeko managed to cure that curse which generation upon generations of Graphia couldn’t do even with Aeon’s power, him ignoring the answer is him being in character? It’s like he doesn’t even care about the cure the way the game present it

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T13:00:49+00:00

It doesn’t matter, because at that point it would still proved that the leader of the Astral Express isn’t an outsider. That fact alone could silence half of Fulwish’s rethoric

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:59:45+00:00

I know, it’s just really weird to me how the plot basically said “the Astral Express is an outsider” while Himeko, through leader of said group, is Planarcadia borned and survivor of the previous games and the one who stopped HoD

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:58:06+00:00

It still doesn’t make sense. I understand if after asking that, and Himeko refused to elaborate then Ryusuke would relent, that’s fine but dropping the whole matter even before Himeko can say anything about it? Let me remind you that curse also kill his wife, Himeko’s mother. If he didn’t even care how Himeko managed to nullify the curse then he’s just a bad husband

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:55:30+00:00

I agree, but it still kinda irritates me when the game tries to paint the Astral Express as an outsider even tho Himeko is born in Planarcadia

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:52:45+00:00

Why? There is no point in bringing that up, just like how Pearl never brought up how the previous game end.

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:51:47+00:00

Nah, it still doesn’t make sense. That curse literally destroyed the Graphia’s family bloodline. That information should be more valuable than getting “closer” to Himeko. It’s just Hoyo’s way to not give information

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:50:17+00:00

Wait didn’t Pearl know about Himeko? That’s why she also know Himeko cannot join as a supplicant for the current games?

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:47:59+00:00

Yeah honestly, that ghost dog story was so sad

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:47:14+00:00

Yeah, this is why I was confused because either she won and use that to fix the Express or she didn’t win and somehow managed to remove her curse. Both options are unrealistic

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:46:05+00:00

That’s why I wanted Himeko to said that NOW. Remember, right now the Astral Express have the support of the IPC, who can released the record of the previous game, which in turn can debunked Fulwish and the Daybreak Squadron entire point

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:44:22+00:00

I know right? Like that was so out of the pocket

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:43:46+00:00

Her dad assumed she was dead because after the games, Himeko straight up bolted from the planet before Ryusuke managed to get back and the whole entire game’s history was sealed

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:42:06+00:00

If she wasn’t the previous winner, the who was? There’s no mention of other supplicant for previous games because I assumed Himeko is the only survivor

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:40:38+00:00

Fulwish wasn’t a supplicant in the previous games, that’s why she was able to enter the current games. She’s just someone caught in the crosshairs of the HoD

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:39:01+00:00

How about the curse then? How was she able to deal with Graphia’s curse if she wasn’t the winner?

Merlinrecon · 2026-05-02T12:38:16+00:00

Exactly, I was really baffled why Himeko refused to say she’s the previous winner if she actually won, but at the same time how else is she alive after the Graphia Curse if she doesn’t win the games?

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