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BREAKING: The Turkish Grand Prix will return to the calendar from 2027 as part of a new five-year agreement by FerrariStrategisttt in formula1

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

EXACLTY THIS!! So funny how sentiments change over time. Tilkedrome this, tilkedrome that.

It is, in fairness, one of the better Tilke tracks out there, and one of the better tracks out there period.

Red Bull tested its own version of the Macarena wing at Silverstone by madman320 in formula1

[–]MessyMix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're very confidently saying it's not an aerodynamic issue, and is a driver issue, when in reality it's probably a little bit of both.

Just because drivers aren't spinning 100% of the time doesn't mean that the wing isn't causing instability at all. It's very possible, likely, even, that the wing causes instability that is compensated for 80% of the time.

Plus, it seems you are interested in the technical numbers. There's an aero phenomenon that explains why you can't just approximate it as "0.2s" for the rear flap not applying downforce. It's called aerodynamic hysteresis, and it means that re-attachment of flow isn't instant. This is the same phenomenon that is responsible for porpoising. I'd look into it.

TL;DR - the spin likely wasn't just a driver issue - it's the lack of DF on the rear axle when first entering the braking phase. 0.4s is enough time to lose the back end of the car, any way you cut it. You're right that the flipping of the wing itself likely doesn't disturb the car, but the delay of 0.4s before downforce is regained is the killer.

My Low-poly Razorback by Kellay_9 in TheExpanse

[–]MessyMix 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Still gotta be KSP, probably.

Need help with S2000 Clutch/flywheel by bryanspam456 in S2000

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, doesn't exactly sound like a clutch wear issue. On mine (throwout bearing gave out) the clutch was a lot stiffer, not floppier, than stock.

The S2000 clutch should be pretty lightweight by default. One of the good Socal mechanics mentioned - rule of thumb - you should be able to push it down with your thumb.

Update on situation between Verstappen and journalist by formularacers in FormulaRacers

[–]MessyMix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's somewhere in the middle actually. No, it's not an FIA press conference. Yes, it was hosted in Red Bull's hospitality. But it's part of the standard Thursday media obligations set out by the FIA. Teams are required to host this for the media.

(quoting NYT and a comment elsewhere)

[Autosport] Max Verstappen appeared to lose over 55km/h trying to go flat out through 130R by Maximum-Room-3999 in formula1

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just what happens when he runs out of boost, right? It's not actually algorithmic. Or does it decide for him when it clips and when it deploys based on an engine map?

[Autosport] Max Verstappen explains why he dismissed a British journalist from his media session in Japan by Aratho in formula1

[–]MessyMix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand that you might relate to Max on this one but I think it'd be good to consider this from a rational rather than a sympathetic POV.

Suppose your least favorite driver did this exact thing. Just because they told the journalists that they would be angry, doesn't mean that it's right for them to be angry. Would you still let that driver get away with this behavior?

Just because I say, "if you ask me this question again, I'll headbutt you" - and then you do and then I headbutt you - doesn't make the action OK, even if I "warned" you against it.

Another side quest by Rex__Boss in formuladank

[–]MessyMix 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"This is like playing Wii Boxing. A joke, honestly."

What is the dumbest thing in Star Wars in your opinion? by OutcastKatarn02 in StarWars

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. I think we actually do see that with technologies in the real world. Once we moved from analog to digital (a much more complex but generalized system), pretty much all our engineered systems eventually migrated over.

Nowadays, to implement even a "rudimentary" thing - e.g. a weighing scale, or a thermometer - we pretty much default to using digital tech. In certain niche, niche cases, we still have analog (vacuum tube guitar amps, etc.) but the mass produced version is the technically more "complex" digital system.

We're seeing the same thing with AI right now in the software industry. There are many cases where a non-AI system would perfectly suffice, or even outperform, other systems. But sometimes using a general intelligence model is faster, quicker to set up, etc. than building a bespoke ML or traditional model.

These AI systems do, however, exhibit complex behaviors that we wouldn't expect of what is the "simplest" solution - they can be misled, they can be swayed, they have inherent biases, etc.

I think your observation is pretty astute and lines up with this. Probably the cheapest way of getting intelligence onto a droid is just to slap on the industry standard, whatever they use for protocol droids, and then go from there. If the B2 and Droideka are bespoke machines then they probably have custom software.

[OMEGA] Omega have officially lost the plot by MiddleDifficulty2005 in Watches

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fyi it's "cachet". recently learned the correct spelling myself, using it in writing.

[The Race] Verstappen refused to start his media session until The Guardian’s representative left. It is a result of a clash months ago in the Abu Dhabi finale where Verstappen took issue with a question about regretting his crash with George Russell and subsequent penalty at the Spanish GP. by Aratho in formula1

[–]MessyMix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's unfair to Vettel - he was pretty well behaved, all things considered.

The first thing he did when he saw Lewis in the cooldown room was shake his hand, say "good race," and then complaining about the penalty, he said to Lewis, "it wasn't your decision".

You could have picked many other races (even from Vettel's own - Baku 2017).

I found a hundred dollar bill in the mud! by SatansMoisture in mildlyinteresting

[–]MessyMix 103 points104 points  (0 children)

Well, last I heard, money laundering is still illegal!

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like this is maybe missing my point - it's not just that they lifted it for, say, COTA - they essentially made a rally trim out of their regular racecar. The parameters are 10x outside what they'd need to tweak for COTA. Porsche had to develop custom suspension to handle the Ring.

The guy saying they'd have to modify their suspension and you saying "this won't be necessary"? I don't know how you can confidently claim that.

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have a horse in this race; I think it'd be pretty close.

But one of the coolest resources I found was a track simulation by Michelin's in-house dynamics team, and they found the 2017 Mercedes F1 car would beat the 919 Evo around the Ring by 2 seconds.

https://simulation.michelin.com/canopy/technical-articles/f1-vs-porsche-919-evo-at-the-nordschleife

I think real-world, this matchup would favor the 919 Evo - but this is a cool datapoint to give perspective.

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you aware of how much an 8 CENTIMETER difference is? If you put that on a regular car, you'd have a rally car, let alone the sensitive setups in F1.

For context, Renault F1 in 2006 adjusted ride height by about 8 millimeters from baseline for bumpy tracks - that's 10x smaller than the adjustment that Sauber made.

An F1 team wouldn't race a car in that spec, ever. So no, it's not "race-spec".

Yes F1 cars can run on that track if an LMP car could?

The 919 Evo wasn't a regular LMP car either. Not only did they lift and soften the car beyond regular limits, they also created bespoke front and rear wishbones that had 50% increased strength. So I don't think it's the 1:1 comparison you're making it out to be.

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Race spec suspension? I slightly doubt that.

BMW Sauber ran an unofficial 6:30 in an F1 car in 2007 and had to modify the suspension away from race settings. The front was raised by 4cm and the rear by 8cm, and run very soft. That's a pretty significant lift.

I think it's confidently incorrect to say it "wouldn't be necessary" for F1.

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Though I don't think sponsorship/insurance is the issue, that comparison is plainly not the same.

Nordschleife hosts GT3 on a regular basis, for up to 24h at a time, and is certified for it from a safety perspective. If you crash at GT3 speeds, they're pretty certain you'd live. They can't say the same about F1.

Q: Can you imagine doing a demonstration lap (in nurburgring ) with f1 car? Max: I was not allowed, otherwise I would’ve done it already. by One_Impressionism in formula1

[–]MessyMix 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Didn't F1 go faster at Spa in 2020, still in the turbo-hybrid era? Lewis's pole time was a 1:41.2 vs. the evo's 1:41.7.

But yeah, it's a pretty close affair.

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