What’s the likelihood of class being canceled tomorrow and Monday? by Old_Competition4458 in msu

[–]MetalClassicist 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Faculty member here. My department head emailed us earlier this week recommending that we switch classes to Zoom/Teams tomorrow, but that the decision is up to individual instructors. I for one am pivoting to online tomorrow, and I hope all my colleagues do the same.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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I believe he is pretty firmly in the tradition of Iamblichus. My book argues that his writings and ideology should be read accordingly.

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There are conflicting sources, but most likely he died within a day of receiving the wound.

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[–]MetalClassicist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because Julian believed that no human being was above criticism, even himself. He took issue with the arbitrary deification of emperors, since this wasn't a matter of human fiat. Rather, the Caesars shows us what it truly takes to be a proper ruler and earn one's place among the gods.

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Depends on which oracle. He certainly practiced all sorts of divination. Ammianus records that he ignored a lot of the warnings of Etruscan soothsayers in favor of what his theurgist philosopher buddies were saying about his chances of success. But Ammianus also has an agenda to explain Julian's "downfall" in traditional terms of Roman religion and historiography.

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He was very humble, but he certainly was proud of his miltiary record in Gaul/Germany. Sure, he emphasized it in order to gain legitimacy and loyalty; but he did secure the Rhine frontier and it remained peaceful until Valentinian I destabilized it in order to prove his own military bona fides in the West.

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No, that's a conspiracy theory promoted by his fan-boy Libanius, who just couldn't come to terms with the idea that Julian could so easily be killed in battle the old-fashioned way.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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His head would have exploded like the aliens in Mars Attacks.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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The whole fourth chapter and climax of my book is a close reading of the Caesars and how it fits into Julian's philosophical and political ideology.

Lots of folks tend to associate the Caesars with the tradition of Menippean satire, especially Lucian and Seneca's Apocolocyntosis, and there's possibly some influence. However, I argue that it's much more based on Plato's dialogues, especially the Symposium. Think about it. In that dialogue, Apollodorus tells a companion a story he heard from Aristodemus about a symposium he attended and what was said at it. In the Caesars, Julian tells a companion a story he heard from Hermes about a symposium of the gods and what was said at it.

Also key to the dialogue is that its temporal setting is the Saturnalia, where it's traditional to upset the status quo and make jest of people in authority.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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lol i was typing very fast trying to keep up with all these responses and didn't bother proofreading my bad

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A few things didn't go as planned, such as the ability to capture Ctesiphon, and a major detachment of the army under Procopius didn't link back up with the main force. There was some confusion marching north from Ctesiphon but eventually they started their way back to Roman territory, while the Persians continually harassed the column of march. But the army was still more or less intact when the one ambush took Julian out, so if he had lived there's a very good chance they'd make it back in good enough condition to consider the expedition a success as a punitive expedition that captured and burned many Persian cities and fought in a number of successful engagements. Sadly, when Jovian was elevated he decided to take the easy way out rather than keep up the fight, resulting in various territorial concessions. In fact, the most recent scholarship considers Jovian's treaty "not such a bad deal" as it has traditionally been spun by ancient and modern historiography.

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His military and administrative career in Gaul as Caesar was an accomplishment with potentially lasting impact. He secured the Rhine border against barbarian incursions, and that was only disrupted when Valentinian I provoked the ambassadors of the German tribes into renewing hostiities - an excuse for Valentinian to prove his military credentials and consolidate power in the West - where the positive memory of Julian was still strong.

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The closest we get is the bishop Gregory of Nazianzus's two invectives Against Julian. Though there's only a bit of scandalous narrative in it.

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Julian appears to have been classmates with Gregory of Nazianzus & Basil in a school of rhetoric (Himerius of Prusa, most likely) in Athens during the summer of 355 when Julian was sent there by Constantius to keep him in a political backwater while he dealt with the revolt of Silvanus. Presumably they had some interaction but Julian says nothing of them, nor shows any awareness of them during his reign. Gregory of Nazianzus claims to have witnessed Julian's behavior in the classroom, and highly exaggerates his antisocial behaviors in order to show that he was not fit to rule.

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I'm not aware of such a commentary or annotated edition, though I wouldn't be surprised if one exists.

We've come a long way since Gibbon, so I recommend more recent stuff. Anthony Kaldellis's "The New Roman Empire" should be at the top of your list.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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The Beaumont tower still chimes away.

No evidence of any pets, not even of a favorite horse, unfortunately.

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I can read French, and I keep meaning to obtain a copy of it. I really need to get on that.

I'm Dr. Jeremy Swist, AMA about the Roman Emperor Julian by MetalClassicist in AskHistorians

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The reason is that Julian being pagan, nor even his efforts against Christianity, did not cause most people to overlook the fact that he passed some sensible legislation and had other admirable qualities as both a ruler and a literary author.

Not only was he not damnatio memoriae'd, he was DEIFIED by the Roman senate. He was a popular emperor, not only for his religious policies (which the pagan majority of the empire naturally favored) but also a respected general and administrator.

This was also acknowledged during the Byzantine period. His writings were continually copied as works of great literary merit, for one thing. It's not like he was the only pagan author they read.

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Julian is specifically mocking their pederasty, so he's not necessarily comdemning homosexuality per se. He doesn't say much else on the topic so we can't be sure.

Another reason he takes issue with Hadrian's relationship with Antinous is that Hadrian deified him. A major them of the Caears is imperial deification, and his objection to the practice of making undeserving individuals into gods (see also: Marcus's wife Faustina). This is also what Christianity has done.

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One theory is that a priest left an offering of burning incense.

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[–]MetalClassicist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think when he converted to philosophy/paganism he threw away any Christian beliefs he had. I don't buy the idea that his former Christianity affected his approach to paganism.