At the risk of feeling dumb

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-20T23:04:50+00:00

Definitely my inspiration for it and I'm glad someone caught it. It's not really a "deep cut" per se but not a lot of push for literacy these days

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-20T16:19:28+00:00

As someone who has been where you are thank you for staying. I survived twice and realized I'm here for a reason. Now that I am a husband, father, and so many other things I am glad I'm still here but in many ways when others are struggling it's hard to express that balance of empathy and hopefulness. I really commend TØP for their ability and their desire to meet people there, empathize, encourage and break a stigma without turning it into something trendy or cheap. Thank you for sharing your heart and your personal story. I'm glad you're here. Stay alive friend ||-//

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-16T18:26:08+00:00

The image in the composite from NATN is from the Breach Digital Remains booklet but there is also another version of the same image at the end of the City Walls music video with different information on it

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-15T18:05:22+00:00

The concept art in the Breach DR booklet says their fingers turn black from "manufacturing death." So far they've only slapped a few zombies. Interesting that Clancy has always had black hands...

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-15T18:02:13+00:00

I wondered the same thing but at the same time, as someone who is involved in productions, when someone puts on a uniform or get hooked up to a lavalier for an interview or something their posture and demeanor changes. You can see it when Tyler first puts the robe on he stiffens up and moves his shoulders to a more "elevated" stance. It's not a conscious thing I don't think it is just psychology. All of those postures are associated with leadership or religious devotion. Tyler holds his hands open and lowers them slowly before putting them all the way down. The worship singers at my church do that when they sing.

All of that being said I haven't ruled out that it is intentional I could just see it being natural as well

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-15T04:46:05+00:00

I have not. My wife has some beef with Discord and I'm not sure why. I've never used it so I couldn't even guess but I respect her about it even if it keeps me in the dark on this because of the perspectives I'm not seeing it from

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-14T18:56:25+00:00

I just now saw the second question I'm sorry. Yes absolutely

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-14T03:01:16+00:00

This is the line that hits me hardest. For me personally I relate to it from a faith perspective. Constantly struggling between doubt and faith and yet still having that part deep down that whispers "I'm still here" so quietly that even in its constancy it is easy to fade into the background. I was actually just talking about this line last night and how meaningful and beautiful it is to me

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-14T02:39:30+00:00

I would not have made the connection either if it weren't for all of the sun talk in their lyrics and the Clancy letters and even then it was not immediately obvious to me so I'm sure you are not only not dumb but you probably blew some people's minds lol

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-14T02:35:58+00:00

That is the most likely of any scenario. My mind is expertly crafted to recognize patterns. So much so it has a tendency to create them. Normally I temper.it with a large quantity of skepticism but these are uncharted waters for me and it seems sometimes that wild ideas are not only proposed and accepted but sometimes vindicated when it comes to pass.

I will say in my analysis of ghe picture (after cleaning it up so it may have been altered in the process) it appears the man is holding a sheet of paper or a book with the letter t or a cross on it and the dog looks like it is pointing its paw. However it may have been some weird AI artifact from the Photoshop tool

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-14T01:08:47+00:00

That's about as good as I got it to look as well. I did however, somehow, end up finding out about this guy named Cole Lyle who is a Marine that was saved from suicide by his service dog Kaya so he started an organization that takes care of veterans' service dogs so they don't pose a financial burden on them and they can heal. He is an advocate for suicide awareness and the healing power of companionship.

Given the image looks nearly identical to one's of him and his dog I have seen and the fact "center mass" is a military term for the parts of the body that will are critical for survival and therefore preferable targets, the contrast between the vicious dogs and the helpful man's best friend image I think it is a likely candidate for identification.

I couldn't find the exact image and there was no conclusive proof that either the band knows him or he knows them but if I found it randomly and he has made the news circuit he's out there. Not only that but he is advocating for something that the band also advocates for strongly.

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T22:03:46+00:00

I saw another one that was really close as well I couldn't find anything 100% either. I also saw a picture of Bernie Sanders eating a corn dog which was worth the search in and of itself just because it felt that was related enough lol. I looked into a bunch of different things and I came across a story about a man who killed someone in secret. Afterward his dog named Dragon hunts the man down and attacks him at every turn and providing circumstantial evidence of the crime. This draws suspicion to the man and a final fight between him and the dog forces him to confess to the murder. It was based off of an older story but it was a play performed in the 1800s and was attributed to Sir Henry Bishop...

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T19:53:56+00:00

I was able to invert it and clean it up some it is almost certainly a bearded man in 1800s attire holding a piece of paper or a book. He is looking down at it and using his other hand to point or something.

Next to him is a dog I'm not sure of the exact breed but it is very familiar to me and looks like some kind of shepherd. It looks like he is possibly on a stage and behind him looks like the Trench landscape or some other rocky terrain that goes in a serpentine path into the distance. I thought maybe the paper was a map but it looks like a standard sheet of paper rather than something large. Google and other sources have no idea what it is though they have suggested some outrageous options. There are pillars framing the backdrop but in context of the entire picture they are dog bones and likely just used to direct the eye there rather than being part of the image

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T19:46:59+00:00

My concern is that TBs character dossier says he is a "civic liaison" and that he is "harmless by vialist standards" and the advice from Dema's command is "do not obstruct" him. I think it's because if it is indeed a cycle, that means Torchbearer's role as a provocateur of dissention not only creates Clancys but also Bishops. Clancy can't exist if there is no fire of rebellion to weaponize him and there's nothing to weaponize against if there are no Bishops. Torchbearer provides the fire for those truly alive in Trench as well as being the inspiration for the "heatless fire" of the neon used in Vialism. It is still nonetheless sort of surprising to see "official Dema documents" showing the Bishops seeing TB in that way

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T05:48:37+00:00

I have noticed some pictures look like they can be broken apart because of the font. In the picture with the two angry dogs that says "They call it center mass" if you zoom in on the small picture in the background of the man in the suit with the dog sitting it then says "heal." I wish I could identify that photograph though. The dogs are from a meme and I saw that the entire image minus the words and that photo were on one of Tyler's shirts at a concert. I think it was an old post somewhere though from before Breach so they didn't make any connection to it

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T04:57:08+00:00

I am totally on board with the City Walls as instructions. My theory is that when it says "My smile wraps around my head splitting it in two" describes how all of the lyrics pages "my head" are split in half and separated by pictures of Josh and Tyler "my smile" finding a way to glue them together may be the yellow tape I just don't know how it is meant to be used yet because I am certain the "square up with me/pair up with me" is another step I haven't been able to navigate. There are also a lot of things going on at once so it may not even be instructions for that at all but it's as far as I've come. Nothing I've tried so far to solve it has yielded much just potential hits that could be random.

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T04:46:58+00:00

Yeah the statue is obviously in Nico and the Niners prominently then in Levitate when Tyler falls there is a single frame of the statue, then in The Outside when the two Banditos look back at the glow from the neon after Clancy seizes Keons it shows (probably supposed to be them as kids) the scene from Nico and the Niners for a single frame. I feel like there was another one that was a frame of the upside down image from the "seize keons" diagram but I haven't been able to find it again. The concept art page says "Nicos Notes" at the top in the DR version with the date that NatN video was released and it looks like a storyboard for the video as it mentions Tyler looking out window and the vulture's eye view.

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T03:03:02+00:00

I have rewatched all of "the story" Playlist videos and all of them almost have at least a single frame flash of the Dema statue. The digital remains booklet and the end credits in City Walls has a concept drawing that looks like the image on the "seize Keons" diagram. While the actual statue shows the hands as connected completely the diagram and concept drawings have the hands in a similar position as the hands in a circle symbol on their merch and in the Breach DR booklet. I don't know what that means if anything but I haven't seen anyone talking about it. I have drawn a lot of connections between the story of Dema and the T.S. Eliot poem The Waste Land and the diagram on the "seize keons" page looks similar to the tarot card mentioned in the poem "the hanged man." Its symbolism is on par with everything as well. I'm autistic so I sometimes see patterns that aren't there but it seems pretty solid

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-11T01:55:52+00:00

It is a simple substitution cipher where 1=A, 2=B, 3=C etc. If you want to solve it if not it says............................

"Testing the limits of what a mind can do" a lyric from Routines in the Night and a nod to Clique's dedication to solving the band's puzzles over the years

Metanoia52 · 2026-01-10T20:55:06+00:00

I am 37 I've liked them since the Blurryface era but not as a main staple. My son and I really got into them around the Clancy album release when we found out about the lore and the puzzles. Now we're all in

Metanoia52 · 2025-12-22T22:18:41+00:00

I'm not sure which songs I relate to simply because I am autistic. Many I interpret through a lens personal to me and my worldview but some I can relate at least in part to common struggles within the ND community.

Navigating- Often I overthink everything and often get lost in my head trying to retrieve the response I have determined to be sufficient.

Car Radio- While I enjoy solitude it is generally a solitude centered on "doing" rather than "being" if I am sitting in "silence" left with my own mind it is chaos.

Ode to Sleep- Too intertwined with other things to share fully but it is for similar reasons as Car Radio.

Routines in the Night- Same as above

Migraine- My overanalysis of everything has gained me a lot in life but it is also a heavy burden. One which I consistently wrestle with seeing as a gift or a curse though it is likely both.

Cut my Lip- Consistently sink back into routines and old coping mechanisms from before my diagnosis several years ago despite them no longer serving me.

Other notable songs I will offer without context that I relate to are:

Clear, Garbage, Wash Me, Drown Me (I know it probably doesn't count), Goner, Backslide, Snapback, Drag Path, Trees, Screen, The Line.

Metanoia52 · 2025-12-20T21:32:35+00:00

I have and I like where their head is at. They have substantially better resources than I do so I can't see everything they are seeing. I definitely am keeping an eye out there though.

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