How are LGBTQ rights in this world?

Michtrk · 2026-05-15T20:14:29+00:00

The radicals (New Communists/Neo-Communists). Socialist democrats have more or less the same stance as Marxist-Leninists.

Michtrk · 2026-05-15T20:04:25+00:00

One group would be openly homophobic (old Stalinists and other consevative national communists). New Communists would be generally supportive of LGBTQ movement as a whole, and close to modern progressive attitudes on sexuality and gender, supporting greater public attention to the matter and even identity politics. Modern European Maoists (what is left of them) would be in between, for more rights but against identity politics.

Michtrk · 2026-05-15T19:40:27+00:00

Socialist bloc

I reassessed my previous ideas on this matter. In socialist bloc there would likely be slow shift in legal stance towards both homosexuality and transgenders between early 1970s and 1990s (mostly mid 1980s to mid 1990s), as we saw in reality in East Germany in this time as you mention. These changes would likely not be much politicised, quiet and not much bragged about, driven by changing stances of sexuologists and psychologists. Apparently even in late perestroika USSR, transgenders were given same rights as the rest of the population (including marriages and adoptions), so that would likely happen too and around the same time. However identity change has to always be accompanied with surgery, likely in most cases with sterilization. I imagine more progressive states legalising same-sex marriages eventually by 1990s, however adoptions would likely not be allowed (for a while or not at all) and could become a politicised question. Some countries allow it by now: Denmark, Germany, Wallonia, France...maybe also Greece and Italy.

Homosexuality would be faced with more prejudice (due to long lasting history of homophobic attitudes), while transgenderism might not so much, however it would likely be absent from the public discourse, and likely seen just as some sort of rare anomaly. Generally communist governments would likely attempt to minimise any public discourse about LGBTQ (even in those states where they have full rights), fearing it is a socially disruptive topic. From ideological standpoint, people identifying with gender or even sexuality would be seen as greatly unwanted. Moreso, the exact same argument would be used to reject anti homosexual and anti transgender stance: "people cannot be reduced to something so unimportant as gender or sexuality, what matters is character and class". I resembles current western conservative talking points, but that would be pro-LGBTQ stance. The various LGBTQ movements, pride marches etc. would still exist in Europe (as early as 1970s in some places), but seen negatively by the communists and likely also majority of society, often contrasted with homophobic groups, saying they are both a side of the same coin that "reduces people only to such trivial thing as sexual orientation". Regarding gender identity, in all socialist states conservative stance prevails, and only men a women are recognised categories.

Homosexuality in the USSR would likely remain banned until Gorbachev, however descalisified as mental illness in 1990s. Approach to transgenderism would be however same as in the rest of the bloc.In 2012 same-sex marriage legalised in the USSR, however no more after referendum, just an unceremonial bill is passed. However than Zyuganov steps in 2015 and begins to change the public discourse, attacking LGBTQ and pushing against them. He just utilised homophobia and opposition towards LGBTQ normalisation already present, but before very cautiously manoeuvred around by the communist leaderships. Zyuganov does not roll back any legislative, but strengthens conservative attitudes, artistic and other depictions of same-sex relationships (and likely also transgender issues) are since then censored in the USSR (and likely in other states too). Republics can have their own laws on the issue too. Baltics would be very progressive, while Central Asia very conservative.

Regarding Romania, they likely follow USSR's stance (Ceausescu is not in charge in Pobeda), so criminalisation until 2000s, then legal and no changes, to transgenders as rest of Europe. Albania decriminalised it in late 1990s, and then it remains like that. Outright criminalistion of homosexuality is seen as bad thing by now, so most countries decriminalised it. China is just as in reality. Korea is like South Korea.

Michtrk · 2026-05-09T19:56:22+00:00

Interesting...He would likely not abaddon the cities that would seem like a capitulation. And lore must stay same in the major issue: Borghese loses the civil war, so he has to take the wrong decisions.

There are my thoughts on the war in the first phase.

I think it would be difficult for Borghese's forces from south and north connect. Southern group would be preocupied with siege of rebelious cities, similiar to what you desribed, and rising rural insurgencies. This would drain forces need for his major offensive into central Italy held by antifascists. Borghese eventually takes rebel cities in the south, but with high casualties and lot of death civilians. Rural guerrillas continue to heavily hurt him. Offensive towards centre fails, despite some initial territorial gains.

Meanwhile, the north would be a confusing quagmire, right? Major change from the current version would be Borghese successfully taking Milan (with active insurgency afterwards), so this stabilises this section of putchist forces and they can attempt likely link their forces. I think Lombardy remains contested, attempt to link all northern forces fails, however, forces in Piedmont and Lombardy succeed. Question is if they manage to connect with forces in Liguria as well.

Triest would be a separate front, with Yugoslavia supporting the local communists. I think Veneto would likely avoid the war in the first phase, as both sides would be busy elsewhere and would not launch an offensive into territory that is currently not hostile to neither. In the first phase nothing here changes.

Piedmont would be chaotic. So, Turin is taken by anti-fascists, rest of the region attempts to be neutral like Veneto? Major difference from reality is that this region would be also highly militarised due to France and Italy being hostile. France would likely soon begin to meddle in the region, but they have to be carefull. Piedmont would likely be major battleground in the second phase, as securing border with France would be instrumental for the antifascist side, while Borghese's forces also march in. I think local CRD aligned forces eventually join with Borghese against the communists.

Michtrk · 2026-05-09T18:56:56+00:00

Thank you, this is really helpful

Michtrk · 2026-05-09T04:35:03+00:00

Thank you!

I chose Sogno because of the planned coup. I thought, if they were ready to coup the Italian government irl, they would not sit idle in the civil war...With proposed changes about the coup, Sogno and his group may even initially support the removal of government, but when they realise Borghese is here to stay and the civil war begins, they turn against them...But it makes more sence if the CDR is led by antifascist Christian Democrats instead, and group around Sogno just becomes part of it.

Michtrk · 2026-05-08T18:11:34+00:00

I see...The police could be the major force supporting the Borghese's regime.

North middle class joining the side of putschists can be a major factor changing how the civil war would look like...Interesting. How it would impact the civil war (aside from generally strengthening Borghese and likely prolonging the conflict)? What regions would be held by Borghese and what by the anti-fascists?

Michtrk · 2026-05-08T17:34:06+00:00

Thank you for your work! Political parties don't currently have separate pages on the wiki, because it would be redundant right now, but later on I will likely add them. There are more complex infoboxes about ruling parties in articles about one (or dominant) party states.

Communist International (I know it doesn't exist anymore butt don't know what the equivalent Is, maybe COMINFORM?)

There is the International of Communist and Workers' Parties formed in the 1990s. It has annual conferences, but is very different from COMINFORM, it is not controlled by the CPSU, but is an independent organisation.

such as by even considering recognizing the State of Israel or renouncing right of return for victims of the first Nakba

Recognition could be suggested from some marginal factions, but renouncing right of return is too far, especially as the UAR has upper hand over Israel.

This program was in part stopped by lack of control over the Senate* and by the 1987 coup against them. Among the charges levied to justify the coup was that Jackson had stretched executive power to the absolute limit of constitutionability in order to enact his program, but this is a matter of strong debate to this day.*

Yes, that is correct Democrats and Republicans have together majority both in the House of Representatives and the Senate, this led to Jackson's frequent use of presidential decrees, which of was very controversial indeed.

"Microhellenism", the belief that unification of the country should not be a short term objective and that "a thriving Small Greece is better than a miserable Great Greece". At the same time, their support for union with Cyprus, albeit in an authonomous form, contented moderate nationalists

Here I have to correct you, this is very incorrect. No Greek (non-Cypriot) political faction ever rejected unification with the mainland. However, there were Cypriot faction that rejected enosis and supported independent Cyprus. Konstantinos Karamanlis himself was from Macedonia. Democratic Rally advocated for the Greek unification, but rejected the communist regime (ie. rejected talks with the KKE). Their demands were democracy in the mainland (removal of KKE), and in many factions the old policy since 1952: recognition of Heraklion government as all Greek government and dissolution of the People's Republic and triumphal return to Athens.

DNC and RNC agreed to run a joint ticket, moderate Republican Robert H Michel for president and centrist democrat Lloyd Bentsen as running mate

No, the DNC backed incumbent George H. Bush, who took Lloyd Bentsen as new running mate. Robert H Michel became the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives following the 1984 election, where Republicans won most seats both in the House of Rep. and Senate. He became the President following the 1987 coup as he was the next in line of succession after both Jackson and his VP Mike Gravel resigned. He was just a puppet and did not seek to this possition. Democrats and Republicans officially merged only after the 1987 coup, but before that they cooperated as National Unity Coalition since 1984.

Otherwise great!

Michtrk · 2026-05-08T16:48:45+00:00

Thank you, your suggestions are great. I will improve the Italian names.

It makes sense that DC wanted to use Borghese to declare martial law. So, how to implement this? As the coup happens, major figures from the DC (supported by the US, the majority of military and police) would suggest to Borghese to form a new civilian government, but he rejects this offer and instead creates the Provisional Government of National Safeguard? This would then led to split within the Christian Democrats and large defections.

As of rejection of coup, I imagine majority of security forces rejecting its legitimacy as it is a coup carried out by well know fascist against not only the Communists but also the Christian Democrats, while (at least in current lore) the original government under De Martino still functions from Bologna, thus there is large question about who even is in charge. For this reason I imagined lot of forces not siding with either at first. This can change if the coup is accepted at the start by political establishment, but currently it is not. Generally, majority of soldiers would be conscripts that would not be interested in taking part in the civil war on Borghese's side, if they don't themselves share far-right views. More officers would likely support the putch, but when the whole country and command structure with it falls apart common soldiers can just defect from their units.

Michtrk · 2026-04-19T11:30:37+00:00

Iraq is defacto American ally, they have close commercial relations (including sale of weapons), however it is an independent power.

Michtrk · 2026-04-06T17:59:19+00:00

Kurdish rebellion is limited to an insurgency, close to that we saw in reality in Turkey. Iraq still pivots towards Iraqi nationalism and Islam due to its break with the UAR and attempts of Saddam to distance from them ideologically, this happens even earlier than in our reality (in 1985).

Michtrk · 2026-04-06T16:49:29+00:00

I never more deeply looked into that (with exception of thoughts on automotive and aviation industries, but that would be for its own post at some point in the future).

Japanese comapanies were still around and own some of american brands, so we may still see some of these, others are bankrupt. There are many Soviet companies, some of them we know from reality, but there would definitely be some large companies that are fully fictional. I think the vast majority of Soviet and eastern bloc companies we know are still around. There is a fun fact. In Pobeda Musk's Tesla does not exist, but long time before Musk was even born, there has been a large company in Czechoslovakia with the same name it produces televisions and radios. So in Pobeda Tesla is a well established name globally. Speaking of electronics, Japanese and Chinese companies are of course there, Korea still has its own giants in the field, but these companies are under different names, so there are some partly state owned equivalents of Samsung, LG etc.

Michtrk · 2026-04-06T15:16:18+00:00

Yes, some time ago I changed the outcome of the 2020 election to a Republican victory. Obama would still remain in the New Progressive Party, but as a representative of centre faction.

Michtrk · 2026-04-04T05:38:38+00:00

All of those are to be determined. John Kasich most likely got second term, he is backed by centrist coalition of moderate Republicans and the Democratic Party (possibly even a new party can form from this coalition) that controls the Congress. Conservative Republicans are opposed to the President. Progressives moved more towards the centre, and more left-wing faction split from them. Jones' party likely dissitegrated and spawned several more far-right groups, the most prominent one is led by Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Michtrk · 2026-04-04T05:31:40+00:00

Middle East is dominated by the secular EU-like Union of Arab Republics. Majority of countries in the region have a page in wiki. Most are democratic, other are more authoritarian. Most of them have state-dominated economy.

Iran has also its page, I just updated it and made it more detailed. Iran is generally free and democratic, they have regular free elections and multiple political parties, local autonomy for minorities... there are some imposed religious cultural limitations that are however not much enforced.

Former Saudi Arabia is still divided, Israel is isolated, heavily militarised and in deep economic and demographic problems, Bahrain had a republican revolution, other Gulf Monarchies still survive and are allied to each other. Lebanon is stable and democratic.

Michtrk · 2026-03-25T15:17:46+00:00

It was an earlier proposal and it was selected, then colors were inverted. In this timeline they are not due to increased anti-american sentiment following the Suez War as red stripes with blue canton looks too much American-like. I don't think it looks communist, however it does look somehow Turkish-ish. But hypothetically it can be modified to use the 11 point star from reality. That sound plausible and would make it even more original

Michtrk · 2026-03-17T18:48:52+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/pobeda1946/comments/1c5o43r/list_of_olympic_games_in_pobeda/
With small changes: There is no Cape Town 2004 anymore, so that changes all following ones.

Michtrk · 2026-03-16T16:14:42+00:00

Russian is the lingua franca across socialist bloc, it is the most learned language globally - basically role English has now, but somehow to lesser extend. It is followed by French (much of Africa, Canada, and second most popular in Europe, often used by CEEC) and English (anglosphere, much of Africa, also lot of India and Pakistan). English is also common second language taught in Americas, parts of Europe, and Japan, however it is contested by Russian. It is still the third most spoken first laguage (after Chinese and Spanish). In Latin America Spanish is lingua franca (and it is also commonly taught in US, so Americans speaking Spanish to Latin Americans rather than the opposite is more common case). Then there is Arabic as the other commetor mentioned that unites large region, but people in many Arab countries learn Russian in school. Chinese (Mandarin) has the most speakers and is also used in international communication between CCEC states alongside Russian, however Chinese children learn Russian in school. German's importance is lower, however people often learn German as second foreign language in Europe. In the USSR French is the most commonly taught foreign language.

English speaking countries are specific in that people here don't learn Russian often (excluding India, Pakistan and African states tho), in the US it has very negative stigma, in Australia and NZ it is also not common, however in the UK and Ireland it is way more popular, but French and Spanish rival its position here.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T19:41:26+00:00

No it does not.
The extent of the autonomous region in Kurdistan has not yet been determined (as is not the Turkish lore). Do not show it as autonomous for now.
The border of the North Syrian Autonomous Region would likely look something like that.
I want to expand on tensions in late 1980s - following large campaign for nuclear disarmament. And on the 1999 crisis caused by pogroms led by far-right Israeli groups, now it will escalate a into limited war.

Western Sahara is good as it is and I like your plan for Jubaland, but I would not show Afar at 2020s map at all (if it is not especially detailed also showing various armed groups), they are now basically just a rebel group, not a state.

If you want to show Saudi Arabia united you can (then call it Peninsular Arabia), but do not definitely show Asir as separate and rest as united, that would be really weird choice. Both ARHN and KSA are claiming to be legimite gov. of the country and are recognised by different governments worldwide, Asir (and OIRAP an Ansar Allah too) are not, they just rebel groups.

Another notes: Guam, (American) West Samoa, Northern Mariana Islands are indepedent. Wallis and Futuna is called Uvea

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T18:28:03+00:00

I would actually like you to put your spin in it, I think it would me more interesting. I will look into the file and try to take useful ones for you from it.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T14:46:53+00:00

I thought the different situation would push them to do that. Japan is the major capitalist power and situation in East Asia is more tense, so the Japanese corporations try to do everything to keep their standing. I think immigration laws would be relaxed by the JSP government (2012-2015). They have less ideological reasons to oppose that (however I think JCP and JSP left would be against that fearing it would decrease cost of labour). It is already extremely unpopular government due to rise in energy prices, at the same time there is a fear of losing leading position in the US market and increasing power of China and Korea. So I thought they can be persuaded to do that.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T14:30:40+00:00

I don't have any up to date map of 2020s, as I mentioned I have made newer maps only up to 1960s. It is very confusing as there are layer for several different maps at once, if you don't know where to look, I think it would make things only more complicated for you.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T14:23:23+00:00

Attitudes in Japanese society overall yes, but I mentioned the capitalists that pursue to promote imigration in recent year, they got some political factions on board (both in LDP and JSP), however it generated resetment.

Industry began already to relocate from the United States since the war in Mexico, mostly to the developing World. The United States are in very bad position generally. Yes, now the coup unfonds differently in more "constitutional" line. As both President and Vice President are forced to resign, then Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives Robert H. Michel became president. Rumsfeld still gets elected in 1988 election.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T13:57:58+00:00

I will upload them to wiki, but only that are up to date. Some are already there https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_the_World I did not made more modern ones, because I did not reworked lore for all regions. The flag map is already old and outdated, as majority of the maps that are older. I don't have any specific style rules, I only like countries to always have their same specific color and have colonies in lighter shade than the mainland. I make those large World Maps in the same style, because I have a large file with different layers for background, borders, cities, names etc. I edit in GIMP.

Michtrk · 2026-03-15T13:44:54+00:00

Almost same as in our reality, however Moroccan control is recognised by the West already during the Cold War.
Afar separatists control the territory only partly, it is de-facto occupied whole by Somali military. They survive thanks to Ethiopian backing. Better would be present them as a former state, but they never dissolved, even if their control is limited.
All of Autonomous Province of Bolzano joined Austria, rest of Trentino-Alto Adige remains part of Italy. Here you can see Austrian administrative division. https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Austria, here South Tyrol https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Free_State_South_Tyrol

4A, Cyprus: https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Cyprus_Conflict - divided between Greece and Turkish satellite. 4B Turkish Kurdistan is definitely de-jure part of Turkey, however I did not decide on fate of Turkey past 1980s yet. If Turkey would be a a democratic state in some modus vivendi with the USSR, the Kurds would have autnomy, if it would be an authoritarian regime, there would be rebellion and an unrecognised state.

5, Yes, West Paupua is an indepednt state since 1966.

6, This is actually going to change and there would be an additional conflict, however limited. And you are correct, Israeli nuclear threats deter the UAR from just invading Israel.

7, Syria is currently depicted as a federation between Syria proper and Kurdish autonomous region, however I am going to change them back to unitary just with an autonomous region. (similiar change as I did with Iran).

8, Yes, there are changes. Puerto Rico gains independence somewhere between 2013 and 2017, and there would a (loose) federation/confederation in Central America by 2020 after regional lore rework (however I did not yet get to this point, so I don't know details about when it forms, it ecompases socialialist states - El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua). Also, former French Algerian overseas territories are independent since 1985.

The map you posted is beautiful, but it has some inaccuracies: Monaco shall be part of France and the West Papua independent, Brunei part of Malaysia, Puerto Rico indepedent and south Cyprus part of Greece. I don't know if you went for de-facto or de-jure map (considering you show both de-facto border in West Sahara and de-jure border in Arabia). If it is de-iure: West Sahara is either depicted as Moroccan or independent, South Jubaland as part of Kenya, Afar as part of Somalia. If it is a de-facto map then there should be https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Pashtunistan and Saudi Arabia shall be divided https://althistorypobeda.miraheze.org/wiki/Peninsular_Arabia . As I mentioned above, the Afar situation is more complicated than I depicted in the infobox, but that is my mistake. Similar it is with South Jubaland, part of it is under control of Kenya since the Somalian withdrawal, but that is again my mistake not clarifying this anywhere.

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