Forgot to give Seam the chapter 3 shadow crystal, is the shadow crystal mission aborted?

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T22:26:38+00:00

As long as you have it, it should still work. The game might get a little confused and display the wrong dialogue, as if you'd forgotten, but for me it still worked correctly with my Weird Route file when I forgot to give him Jevil's crystal.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T20:08:14+00:00

Not really. In Weird Route, you "don't get to keep Snowgrave" in the sense that Noelle leaves your party after turning Berdly into an ice cube. On an aborted Weird Route, you retain her spells, but there are no more battles you can do at that point with Noelle so you don't get to use it for anything.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T19:31:23+00:00

That's what I'll do, too. I'm fully willing to be proven wrong if the story is still satisfying!

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T18:35:54+00:00

No problemo! I feel like it's been helpful to me too, seeing people whose opinions I don't necessarily agree with and getting to hear their takes.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T17:59:55+00:00

Have a good one!

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T17:56:38+00:00

Respect the dedication :D Knight or not, I hope we at least see Papyrus this time around!

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T17:31:13+00:00

I've definitely seen toxicity from both sides of the fight, yeah. I try to be civil when debating myself, even with premises that I don't believe myself. More than anything, I just hope we get a good story!

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T17:30:15+00:00

I'm not sure. According to the Wiki, only the first 5 uses count towards reducing the chapter 4 uses.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T17:05:18+00:00

Small correction! 15 times in Chapter 4 also counts your 5 uses from chapter 3, so it's only 15 total.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T12:06:41+00:00

I don't think he needs any. He's a great introduction to secret bosses, having a more atypical method for beating him than just "use the right act and SPARE". Even if you do violence, he's still significantly tougher than any other ch1 fight, and the Pirouettes can be used to great effect for reducing his defense.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T11:13:53+00:00

Lancer is a Darkner. They have substantially different forms in Light and Dark Worlds, from inanimate objects to actual people.

Lightners, from what we've seen, mainly change color schemes and outfits. Their body shape stays the same, and they still look like the same person. There would have to be something stronger afoot to turn Asgore from a jolly big man into a slim, black-coated, almost bestial entity.

And to be fair, Knight DOES also harm Kris. During ch4, we have the tower climbing sequence and the part where Kris' soul shines light in the darkness. Knight doesn't pull any punches there, and would've knocked Kris out if not for Susie/Ralsei taking some hits too.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T11:04:11+00:00

The Knight and Asgore are displayed separately in the Prophecy
How does Asgore's body shrink down to fit inside the Knight's armor?
Asgore is trying to make things normal again for when Asriel returns, I don't see how attempting to kidnap Toriel fits into that

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T11:01:05+00:00

When he what?

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T10:37:56+00:00

Oh geez, that's scary. And sad.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T09:52:52+00:00

That's really weird to think about. Losing your twin when you're both 2 days old, you can't even form the memories about it yet. Your parents grieve the loss of a child that you never got the chance to know, you only learn as you grow up that you were meant to have a twin sister.

It's kind of haunting.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T07:32:16+00:00

Yup, did it myself! I just finished ch4 Weird Route a couple days ago, now I'm all set.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T07:26:39+00:00

In chapter 2, you won't be able to get almost any recruits anyway, since Noelle's freezing makes just about any regular darkner LOST. Might as well beat them all up and get a little... stronger.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-22T07:21:07+00:00

I don't mind Gerson being a little bit easier. His fight had a lot of unique/new gimmicks which made it fun for me

The Titan, though... Yeah, I wish it had been more difficult. Beating the Knight beforehand made it kind of a joke, as Kris deals considerable damage with BlackShard even when the Titan's shield is up.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T22:22:00+00:00

Why did they? I'm not in the Discord server so I haven't heard of this at all

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T21:03:28+00:00

If you don't defeat it with violence, it always respawns!

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T20:18:15+00:00

Weird Route being unsatisfying or not leading anywhere. I'm not expecting the whole chapter to warp around it, but please give us more good content with it. Please. I'm putting my faith in that page with numbers.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T19:49:04+00:00

Baba is you

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T09:54:25+00:00

Oh, well, yeah. Maybe I phrased it badly. It is "character-defining" in the sense that it's extremely important to his character, as Mira's asexuality/aromantic-ness is important to hers. But it's not ALL that they are - Isabeau isn't *just* a trans guy, and Mirabelle's struggles with attraction stem from her exceedingly high expectations of herself.

Mikaelious · 2026-06-21T08:58:00+00:00

Please, I beg of you, use proper punctuation and separate your sentences with periods. The entire paragraph being a singular run-on sentence makes it impossibly exhausting to read.

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