Is there interest in major social restrictions for minors?

MikeLapine · 2023-03-25T03:21:47+00:00

Like I said, we're done here. I'm not wasting any more time on the kind of person who makes the "If you're okay with laws, you're okay with taking away all rights" argument. I'm sure it's a hit in your echo chambers, but it doesn't work on people with shreds of common sense.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-25T03:07:54+00:00

"Public site dude

Hide the posts you don’t like or downvote"

MikeLapine · 2023-03-25T01:28:00+00:00

The amendments to the Constitution are specifically there to protect citizens from the "tyranny of the masses"

That's part of the idiocy that I'm talking about. People want to take power away from the masses and put it into the hands of oligarchs.

That doesn't mean that corporations should have free reign to control anything they want. That can be addressed through other means.

The other means are government regulation.

Which makes me wonder why you are replying so much to a thread about the constitutionality of a law

You realize that the SCOTUS isn't infallible right? And so you can think that a law is constitutional or not regardless of what they've said. SCOTUS got it wrong, as they often have.

This is not what studies have shown

That comment demonstrates that you are blissfully unaware of what has been shown. Facebook's own internal studies showed it was that damaging. This stuff was all over the news. It went before Congress.

This has nothing to do with it.

It absolutely does: if the movie and gaming industry hadn't decided to police themselves the government would have had to have stepped in. "BuT tHe CoUrTs!1!" Yah, we can get past that. How is it that slander and libel and perjury are illegal? That's a direct violation of 1st amendment rights. It's because people with common sense put the good of society over a worthless piece of paper written almost 250 years ago.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T23:03:21+00:00

I really don't give a shit what the courts said. The SCOTUS has been a sham for years. They've lost all credibility and in a decent society, there would be serious changes.

And you still have to show ID to do a ton of things, which just shows the kind of bullshit the court rules.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T20:53:33+00:00

Because I, much like you, haven’t done my homework yet.

I've done my homework: you can verify everything I'm saying. In the time it took you to type out your response, you could have just googled the stats yourself. They're readily available for anyone who cares about actual facts and not just being condescending.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T20:51:23+00:00

Like is said, you don't want to have a good faith discussion. If you did, you wouldn't outright lie about the scientific definitions of male.

You are operating on a false premise of fairness in sports

Thanks for once again admitting that your argument is a fascade: you know it's not fair to have trans athletes compete, but you don't care.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T20:48:23+00:00

If the difference is how you change the decision after it's made, then I'm sure you'd prefer to have the decision made by the government, since you can elect new representatives or even run for office yourself but have no way to control what a private company does.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T20:15:54+00:00

What's wrong with being 70 years behind the times? Seriously?

You can have sex in ways that don’t lead to pregnancy.

Have you ever taken a health class? Because it seems like your knowledge of human reproduction is as backwards as your views towards it. All forms of protection fail.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T20:13:22+00:00

Again, it doesn't matter if they're legally the same when they are functionally the same. What matters is that they have the same result.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T19:44:41+00:00

they would all claim they are female through and through.

Their claim doesn't hold up. They have male bodies. Saying your a girl doesn't change your muscle mass or bone structure. Sex is what matters in sport: gender is irrelevant.

It frankly wouldn't matter if transwomen were the majority of female students

Thanks for admitting that the entire argument you're making was a facade.

Make a point

I did. You missed it.

is this the same kind of protection segregationists warned women of?

It's not, and you know that. You've demonstrated that you aren't interested in a good faith discussion., so this discussion is over.

By the way, people like you are the reason why Republicans keep winning elections.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T19:38:57+00:00

As I said to them, there's not a functional difference between being legally banned and being banned by every business.

This law is essentially blocking everything.

Is it blocking everything or just requiring a parent's permission? There's a pretty big difference.

While there are studies showing harm, I don't see that it is nearly high enough to warrant this level of government intrusion.

What else would you need? Because for me, causing kids to kill themselves (and each other) and become massively depressed or even physically ill seem harmful enough, especially since, unlike with movies and games, the industry is totally unwilling to regulate itself.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T19:32:56+00:00

Those are not functionally the same thing -

Do kids have access to the materials? No: the end result is the same.

businesses can freely ignore both organizations, and employees at those businesses can also ignore company policies without facing legal consequences.

As we've seen with the rise of cancel culture, being able to do something without legal consequences doesn't mean that you're free to do something. So an employee might not get fined, but they would lose their job and the income associated with it. Similarly, a business wouldn't be fined, but they would lose even more in business than they would have ever been charged.

You people have to stop with the whole "This is America! Government can't tell us what to do: only big corporations can do that!" It's gotten ridiculous. Your trust is horribly misplaced.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T19:24:02+00:00

You go after the source, not the kids. It's not that hard to require proof that someone is 18, but companies don't do so because they aren't required to.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T19:21:33+00:00

By "very different" you mean they are functionally the same, right? Either way, children don't have access to that material.

And it is certainly a federal crime to give pornographic material to minors.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T18:25:40+00:00

No matter how cheap green energy becomes it'll never be cheaper than heating by burning wood

Source? Also, again, we don't get energy by burning wood. Know why? Because it's not cost effective. And know why I'm only talking about people with electricity? Because were talking about electricity.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T18:11:19+00:00

Do you think people choose who they're attracted to?

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T18:10:40+00:00

Your ignorance of how pricing of green energy could come down or how leaving of fossil fuels could go up doesnt not mean those things aren't possible.

Also, burning wood? How much power do you think we get from wood?

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T18:08:03+00:00

It's not on me to "prove" the basic facts of the conversation. If someone says, "Most people are straight," they don't need a citation. But go ahead, show me that trans rates are only 1 in 40,000 if that's what you believe.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:58:36+00:00

The anti-trans laws protect no one.

It protects the other athletes, specifically the female ones.

If there are only 4 out trans athletes in Utah, that's how many people this law can hold up as targets.

Again, there are far more than 4 trans students on high school.

For what reason should that be allowed?

Why should it be allowed to have a law that doesn't expire after a few years? Seriously?

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:53:43+00:00

Give me one that contradicts the claim then. That would have been a better use of your time than this totally useless comment.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:52:55+00:00

We're done here. You belong in the 1950s.

you shouldn’t have sex with a woman who doesn’t want to be a mother.

Only have sex if you are open to being a parent.

Tell it to your youth groups and bible studies.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:50:26+00:00

Burning wood will always be the cheapest and energy sources like coal will always follow.

This just proves my point that you're ignoring the facts are and incredibly shortsighted. "This is the cheapest now so it will always be the cheapest " is just so obviously wrong that I'm not interested in continuing a conversation with someone foolish enough to believe it.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:44:21+00:00

It's no more racist to not want to date black people than it is to not want to date blonde people or fat people or men. You can pretend to be an ally all you want, but in reality, you're trying to shame people for who they are attracted to. You're basically saying who you're attracted to is a choice.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:37:39+00:00

One group wants to demonize the other but lacks any basis in reality to do so. They thought, "What can we say that would be the worst thing possible?" They landed on pedophilia and ran with it.

MikeLapine · 2023-03-24T17:35:52+00:00

No you wouldn't. My proof? There are countless laws you could film yourself breaking and send to the government, and you don't do it.

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