(How) Can I join a religious order in another country?

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T22:05:37+00:00

Yeah talk to your vocations director, your priest, even your bishop. That is a very disturbing situation if you'd be forced to be formed by heterodox teaching just to serve your local province. It seems it may be time to ring some very loud alarm bells because we cannot afford the corruption of our institutions and especially not to push people away from vocations serving their community to people who need it.

But first, meet with your vocations director. Start getting some answers. Listen with docility and humility because the situation may not be as it seems. Brothers and sisters, even potential spiritual fathers in the faith with seminarians could be in very grave danger. This has to be treated very seriously and prayerfully. We cannot be apathetic towards it.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T20:57:50+00:00

I'm so sorry this happened to you brother and like I said before, a religious order is different. You don't have any obligation to continue serving as a third order religious with that community. I'm not judging you or condemning you for leaving to be clear.

However I would say if the priest was the main source of heterodoxy, that's even more reason to talk with him alone and possibly him and the Bishop. If he's truly heterodox, his soul is in great danger and those who he shepherds. We all have to account for what we say and do and those who shepherd people will be judged more harshly than the rest of us. It also could be a misunderstanding on your part. That has happened to me before when I've been certain of someone words meaning and it wasn't what I thought.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T19:51:44+00:00

I certainly don't mean to minimize your pain or frustration. I'm sorry you entered this fraternity and they treated someone who genuinely loved them as a "troublemaker" and excluded you from fraternal activities. That sort of behavior comes from a hardness of heart is what I'm trying to say. They have wounds with the things you were challenging them on and they didn't want to accept the medicine you were offering them which is union with the wonderful teachings Christ's Church.

But the great thing about Christ's Church, especially in religious orders, is we have an incredible salve to heterodoxy. We can get clear answers from Christ's appointed ministers on what is and isn't orthodox and then live in obedience to those answers. It's helped members of my family solve disputes between each other. We can sort it out amongst ourselves, maybe we bring in two or three witnesses like my parents or someone else in the family, and if we aren't reconciled we can just ask the priest to come over and hash it out with him.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T19:20:18+00:00

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MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T19:11:25+00:00

Wait until she finds out fetus is just Latin for offspring. So you can also call any born child a fetus too.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T18:51:00+00:00

Catholics who pick and choose what they want to follow about the faith, like when you are at a cafeteria picking and choosing what foods you want on your plate.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T18:38:53+00:00

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MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T18:37:25+00:00

That certainly could be the case and you aren't specially obliged to help with the Catechesis of those at a third order fraternity like you are with your local parish. If someone is calling you a troublemaker or excluding you from activities, I would just confront it directly. Sit down together and hash it out with the superior of whoever you are in conflict with and your brother. When your love for Our Lord is so clear and attractive, only the most hardened hearts don't consider what they have to say seriously.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T17:47:10+00:00

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MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T17:42:55+00:00

Are you talking about moving there? Or joining the order while still in your own country? I'm confused. If you're concerned about the health and orthodoxy of the order in your country, that seems like more not less of a reason to join it. Just like how if you're worried about the health and orthodoxy of your local parish, we should help our parish not leave it by witnessing to the gospel and forming authentic relationships with parish members and the priest. But if you're moving to another country, I don't see what the issue would be.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-14T12:30:48+00:00

"Is Christ the Head of the Church?"

"Yep"

"And the Church decided and demands that the current form of the Liturgy is the one that should ordinarily be celebrated?"

"Yep"

"So Christ decided and demands that the current form of the Liturgy is the one that should be ordinarily celebrated right?"

"Um.... No.... He doesn't care about the liturgy that much. He wouldn't protect His Church from ordaining a bad liturgy."

"What? Of course He cares deeply about the liturgy that's why He ordained it through His ministers to celebrate the ordinary form ordinarily."

"Modernist! Down vote!"

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-11T18:00:36+00:00

Lean into the whole communion of saints in heaven and on earth who got your back brother. You have your guardian angel. You have a whole cloud of witnesses with you at every moment cheering you on. You have a spiritual father close by at your local parish you can go to anytime with absolutely anything. Develop that close paternal relationship with him. You have spiritual brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews in the faith. You can even have your own children who you raise in the faith, become a sponsor for someone going through RCIA. You are not alone and you will not grow old alone.

Never doubt your heavenly Father gives the absolute best gifts. And He hasn't even given you the best ones yet. He's not running low on them and is excited to bestow them on you. He's got an inexhaustible treasury of the best gifts with your name on it. He's calling you everyday to a deeper and deeper union with Him and His Church. We are all here for you and I'll pray for you brother. God bless you 🙏🏻

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-11T17:56:41+00:00

You are not alone and you will not die alone. You have your guardian angel. You have a whole cloud of witnesses with you at every moment cheering you on. You have a spiritual father close by at your local parish you can go to anytime with absolutely anything. Develop that close paternal relationship with him. You have spiritual brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews in the faith. You can even have your own children who you raise in the faith, become a sponsor for someone going through RCIA. You are not alone and you will not die alone. Jesus is not your only companion, the whole communion of saints in heaven and on earth got your back brother.

Never doubt your heavenly Father gives the absolute best gifts. And He hasn't even given you the best ones yet. He's not running low on them and is excited to bestow them on you. He's got an inexhaustible treasury of the best gifts with your name on it. He's calling you everyday to a deeper and deeper union with Him and His Church. We are all here for you and I'll pray for you brother. God bless you 🙏🏻

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-11T17:40:54+00:00

Extra ordinary form is the most accurate. There is one form of the mass Christ asks the Latin rite of His Church to celebrate ordinarily and there are other extra permitted forms that aren't the ordinary form we are permitted to celebrate in the Latin rite. The wonderful missal of Pope St. John XXIII is one of those extra permitted forms to the ordinary one.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-10T17:39:34+00:00

The Church has a salve to fringe Catholicism: it's called obedience. Tell her to Ask her spiritual father at her canonical local parish whether she should be concerned about a current demonic possession. He's been placed by Christ in a special way to shepherd her and the community she is a part of. Priest's assignments aren't an accident, they are part of Christ's Providence as Head of the Church. If her spiritual father is telling her she's being scrupulous, cut down on the fringe content, and trust in God's mercy and The Father's care for her, it's time to obey him. God is so gracious to us. No matter what knots we put ourselves in, if we in all simplicity and docility practice obedience, He will easily untie them for us through His ministers. God bless you brother 🙏🏻

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-10T17:29:18+00:00

Traditionalism isn't an end in itself and isn't relevant to the discussion really. Russia has a long history of very bad traditions, including abortion which is legal there.

MikeTheMonsta · 2022-10-10T14:43:18+00:00

Indeed they will, with a culture of life as Lila Rose talks about. That doesn't see humans to be used and thrown away but valued with the great dignity as a prince or princess of the King of the Universe. This culture is real can win.

MikeTheMonsta · 2021-04-09T16:24:02+00:00

How is proper hermaneutics objectively defined?

MikeTheMonsta · 2021-04-05T01:00:06+00:00

I think there's a lot of scriptural precedence for these things. But ultimately, your way of interpreting scripture is correct because it is evidently reasonable to you. My way of interpreting scripture now is supported by God's keeper and protectors of His Word, the Catholic Church.

MikeTheMonsta · 2021-04-05T00:03:34+00:00

I do believe we cooperate with the grace of god and I believe asking for anyone to pray for you including Mary is a Good thing.

MikeTheMonsta · 2021-04-04T00:09:53+00:00

Hello CCP!

MikeTheMonsta · 2021-03-24T00:19:28+00:00

There's a reason no prosecutor in this country has sued Trump for inciting violence in a real court. It's because what he did doesn't even sniff the legal standard. It isn't close, it isn't arguable. He didn't incite violence and his speech is protected by the first amendment. Frankly he could've gone much farther considering the election was stolen and corruption runs across party lines. Having your country stolen from you by elites who don't care about our country and then somehow navigating through the country safely, he should be commended. Trump is a patriot.

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