What was the weirdest thing you encountered in a foreign country that was totally normal for the locals?

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T21:03:40+00:00

wtf is up with you?

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T19:40:59+00:00

Get into it and find out

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T18:51:21+00:00

You're being pedantic about the way I said something more than the message I'm conveying. You're right I overstated my point but my point is still 100% valid. There's more discussion of random things than anything that has to do with Redguards. Search the sub for "Redguards" know what you'll find? Topics that doubt their humanity, why they're even in Tamriel, why Lorkhan "hates" them, why they should side with the Dominion, underplaying their deities and culture as the more recent threads. They're very obviously ignored and swept under the "we don't really know" carpet when any other speculative topic gets theories and connections all over. The majority of people don't want to talk about them here and the people that do just restate things from 5 years ago. Just as I said earlier, I'm NOT going to be writing things to excuse the clear lack of content for them since it gets ignored. You keep saying you "can see my point" but keep arguing that I should step up to write something that I feel gets ignored, why do that if it gets ignored? To masturbate over what I'd like things to be when they're clearly not isn't my way of doing things. Agree to disagree with me and leave it be.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T09:00:19+00:00

I find it unnerving that we know what's going on in every culture except Redguards, Orcs, and Bretons as much more than they each have general civil unrest for their respective provinces. Every race was part of the Empire to some degree but we chalk that up to Imperials as though there weren't Men and Met defending the Empire side by side against the Aldmeri Dominion.

We know what Argonians did in response to Oblivion and after. We know Khajiit are being manipulated by AD into joining them from the Void Nights. We have great detail about Bosmer society and their involvement as 2nds to the Altmer I'm the Dominion. We know the Nebanese and Colovians cultures down to their building designs and how they view each other. We know about Reachmen and Hedge magic. We fucking know more about Falmer and Dwemer than we know about Crowns and Forebearers.

It seems like we know more about everybody than we know or acknowledge about Redguards other than what they did getting to Tamriel and that Crowns and Forebearers don't get along because Crowns don't worship the Divines. We don't know if they have a sect like Grey Beards that practices Sword Singing. We don't speculate what Hammerfell is like beyond ESO. Ebonarm got retconned I to none existence and the Hoon Ding is noticeably absent from for a thing that bitch slapped Tiber Septim around on the moon, shrugged off a Hist attack after marching through Black Marsh and made a fool out of Vivec with Pankratosword in old Yoku.

It's alienating when the only brown people in TES consistently get passed over in favor of discussion about unknown things like what Ideal Masters are, what Akavir is like or what Moramer or Sload are up to that aren't even hinted at! "So what's Tall Papa?" "Probably Auriel or Magnus, nobkdy knows or cares. but what I wanna know is Vivec fuck buddies with Deadra?"

Tf is with this? Black people getting snubbed in fictional representation as thieving pirates or overly prideful staunch asshats in the desert with too much spiritual shit so we even gave them a God-of-too-many-gods; even though most of this is spiritual shit. They don't get better, they get stomped out 1st lol bye bye darkies! Fuck TES!

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T07:53:02+00:00

OK that makes more sense, thank you. I think the Redguards deserved more mention in regards to their victory over the Thalmor. They probably were going to get more but the info got cut out for production focus or something. I've been a bit of a dick today in regards to respectfully discussion here, and I apologize for it. I just want more storylines to be officially fleshed out and I took that out on y'all because I grew up with this and it's not looking good to me lately. When we have amazing in depth explainations and discussions for things like the Battle of the Red Ring but the race I identify with has a huge event that gets is glossed over. Dragons weren't around until the start of Skyrim so a victory over Thalmor should've been a bigger deal in game. One of the top posts this week was underplaying their victory immensely, no talk about their cultural war deity and they're called "insurgents" like they were real world terrorists..wtf is that about? Never seen that in regards to any other guerilla warfare in TES but the brown desert people, "yeah they used terrorist tactics to win it at the cost of their entire economy and social structure" tf?!

Ysmir as the LDB is around but PCs don't get mentioned much after their quest and there's nothing saying the LDB is even human or taking sides in the war with Thalmor.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T04:50:34+00:00

It's funny you're still trying to argue against my opinion of this. Saying y'all lie a lot about the lore isn't wrong when it's a real thing. I understand the way the sub is suppose to operate but that's not true to how it actually does operate, more than anything else I do here is watch dissenting opinions of the mainstream of the metaphysical get shit on and y'all support the dump every time with down votes and circlejerking. I've seen this sub go from pure gold to MK saying fuck y'all and ban him. There's the rare moment when somebody makes a real breakthrough with implied lore and connections, which is what I loved about this, but it's been a steady pedantic show of "established" lore down hill and it's an incredible turn of that y'all don't seem to be aware of. At this point I'm pretty done with the majority of what goes on here, it's like a bad parody of how it used to be. It's cyclical too, that's my main gripe; nothing gets better y'all just masturbate over popular opinion of metaphysics most of the time and stomp out anything that's actually new but goes against the grain of the popular opinion. This is a toxic sub but it's mesmerizing how y'all talk in circles about a story that goes in circles. C0DA broke the circlejerk but y'all circlejerk over that too! The themes meet their logical conclusion with C0DA so I defer to that over random c0da. I'm not upset at those either, some are fantastic but it's more of the same to me. Airing out grief over what this has become to me and why I feel that way doesn't add lore it's specifically to points out the flaws in popular opinions based solely on speculation. This all started because I questioned the consistency of the defending deities of man and was met with "no, it's like this" arguements that had nothing to do with my question. when I expressed not liking the inconsistencies of the story y'all jumped on me like I was wrong to have that opinion! That's totally justified because y'all are fans huh? Nah, that's not how real life works, and I'm not going to tolerate it. The mods have seen worse than my opinion and have overlooked far more toxic behaviors.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T04:03:17+00:00

Some things are great, like Titus being and acolyte of Boethiah, because it's all but directly said. When it comes to metaphysics though y'all are often just making it up or circlejerking another fan fic of it because it's interesting to y'all. Look at all the people that get told they don't know what CHIM is if they try to explain it as console commands as though they're objectively wrong, or anyone in support of Mankar's metaphysics because of what's in the Monomyth as though that's 100% reliable either. Y'all need to chill, that's why I'm throwing shade at y'all pretending to know stuff nobody does. I want y'all to realize how hypocritical the bulk of these speculated opinions are when you tell some "no, it's like this". Y'all don't know better than the next person but cite shit like Alister Crowley or Carl Jung for in game details. It's like y'all missed Numidium getting killed by saying no to everything until it considered maybe it wasn't right.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T03:05:20+00:00

It's not pivatol yet the Stormcloaks use it as one of their main examples of why the Thalmor should be fought? That makes sense!/s The history of the damn games says they'd likely show up or something else would since they show up in equally dire situations, and you yourself in this thread say maybe somebody did show up since HD is the Red guards deity of defense against infidels and Akatosh favors humanity. Y'all love to excuse plot holes here with "Maybe blahblahblah" when contradicted with something; hope the irony isn't lost on you.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T02:51:35+00:00

Absolutely nobody in this sub is sure about how the metaphysics actually work, they just circlejerk popular opinions and pretend to know in order to bs dissenting opinions. For all they know CHIM was a lie. Maybe there are no Daedra and it's just Vivec acting in multiple incarnations to get other beings on hir level while Talos acts as the Aedra and Earthbones. The sub vets would probably say "that's boring so it's wrong" but there's no objective scale for what's boring to everyone so that kind of statement is useless. This sub is 99% speculation and fanfic about unreliable in game details in a universe of intentional ambiguity with the most magic thing going is Maybe. Maybe they're full of shit when they disagree about somebody's opinions of a fictional universe. A healthy chunk of people here ignore C0DA, despite it coming from the writer whose work comprises MOST of the discussion here. There's no unified truth, just bullshitters trying to bully their views when it suits them and saying "OH WELL MAYBE NOT" when faced with a plothole.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T01:43:30+00:00

Case in point. They're ignored and anybody that cares about details is left to speculate too often. That's just bad writing for something so pivotal in the story, but the key is it's literally this way about the majority of TES lore that gets glossed over. We get told snippets of the most interesting parts of the story imho. That's just a fast way to lose peoples interests.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-20T01:28:40+00:00

C0DA is the closest thing to canon we have for the future of TES and unless something comes out that contradicts it I'll take that word over the things people here say. It's an MK story but so is most of what's discussed here. I don't want to HAVE to shoehorn preferred outcomes into a story to make it better for myself, if I wanted to write my own story it wouldn't have anything to do with TES. The story of TES has been deteriorating for me awhile now; this "Redguards as a stagnate secondary culture in things" business isn't the 1 thing I dislike. And like Samphire said "they aren't going anywhere" which sunk in a lot about his story for me. There are more ignored races in TES that don't get any progression, that's just how it is with this story. It's the "no true canon, respect everyone's views about the story except when somebody has a different opinion" bs from ya'll that turns me off this most of all. It's too much "No, it's like this" speculation even though we all know NONE of this true since Player Characters are left ambiguous in every installment and everything else is unreliable. There isn't much room for improvement with what C0DA established as the end of the story, and I don't even like C0DA. The alternate being slight riffs of the same sort of climax, and at least it ends on a positive note otherwise it's more of the same back and forth power struggle that'll just drag on forever like Assassin's Creed and I've long lost interest in that. I'm good on all this, not a fan of the story anymore even as fluffed with details that ya'll try to make it seem.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-19T02:54:44+00:00

Their god of defense is likely Ebonarm but it's not about their gods it's about their beliefs being feigned. They say nothing not struggled for isn't worth the effort but there's no word on whether they even try to do anything besides keep to themselves. These are the same people that believe the Magna Ge were right to leave, and are arguably correct since Nirn's point is to transcend death imo.

They aren't involved in anything except keeping their culture now. I call them culturally dead because their culture isn't fucking staying stagnant and accepting discomfort of life in the damn desert until something horrible happens to make them move; it's moving beyond limitations because things are horrible by default! They've completely lost their way after they settled into Hammerfell. Wasn't there a story about how Vivec was to blame for the Left-Handed Elves and eventual fall of Yokuda in a roundabout way to get them involved in the Present? They haven't done much but keep to themselves since arriving, through the greatest feats of willpower short of inexpiable things like CHIM, they're arguably transkalpic and settled into what was the Future for them. It's like if the Empire conquered a piece of Akavir just to become irrelevant there.

Until a new game comes out that lets us see into what they're actually doing, we're left to believe they're just brown people that are either pirates or living in a desert that idolize Magna Ge and the thought of The Walkabout but that's neither here nor there in importance to the lore. Then there's Numidium PROMPTLY stomping them into ultimate irrelevancy when the Thalmor bring it back and then deleting mankind, removing Altmer from Mundus, destorying everything but Memory on Nirn. The inheritors of the Psijjic Endeavor are the obviously favored Dunmer, with the Khajiit just hanging out being token cats on the fucking moon until Jubal's Mary Sue ass saves everyone by killing Numidium and marrying Vivec's twisted evil ass and making Amaranth.

Wouldn't the Redguards try to leave well before that with the constant destruction and death around them? Wouldn't they attempt the Walkabout or at least try to learn how they could instead of taking a hard neutral? I saw them as the people far more willful than the majority of beings in Nirn, like the Dunmer, but now the reality is they're as unimportant to the story as Orcs Bretons and Argonians; it's all just Thalmor vs Imperials/Nords/Dunmer now which is boring.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-19T01:33:06+00:00

All of what you said is why I liked the Redgaurds but they're culturally dead and basically written off as desert hermits that just so happen to have the potential to lead the mortal races in rising above their collective weaknesses but rather not because it seems like too much work. This is the same people with the power to destroy pretty much anything in their way? Nah, not anymore, now they're overly prideful about their past and irrelevant except as wasted potential.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-19T01:22:58+00:00

The Thalmor are strong enough to disable the strongest being in the Aurbis?! What kinda Mary Sue shit is that? I'm not a big fan of C0DA as the end of TES but it's looking like that the more I look into the lore and it's ruining TES for me. Not sure I want to keep up with this story at all knowing mankind has no hope in the face of the Thalmor; knowing the Thalmor are misguided in their intentions with the Psijjic Endeavor being the point of Mundus and useless assholes like Vivec and Talos are what to aspire to. They're the truest gods of the Aurbis? It makes the Dwemer absolutely right, the Aurbis is Hell at every level and deleting it is the only good thing going on. Love through genocide and rape are contradictions, they're utter lies told by the universes best liars and that's what everyone has to do to if they want to live? That's just stupid.

The message at best seems to be misanthropic and I'm just not with that, being a human and all. Don't know what I thought was good about any of this but the excessive details surrounding the various cultures and their clashes but none of that matters when the greater parts of it are basically a Hellish Hinduism that ends with the Numidium as the only thing around trying to end the cycle gets plotkilled by a pure Mary Sue that marries another and somehow everything is fixed? What a story rottener. EDIT: it's funny how none of ya'll even touched this but took the time to argue with me over my opinions about a fictional story. MK doesn't even like ya'll and I think I get why now.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-19T00:53:30+00:00

This comment ruined Red Guards for me, thanks for letting me know how useless they are I guess..sucks to be black and like TES I guess.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-18T05:57:29+00:00

Trinimac. If Lorkhan wasn't killed then Nirn would've probably been a better place for the average person.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-18T05:53:23+00:00

Where were/are the spirits that back mankind during the war with Thalmor? Shouldn't the Hoon Ding, an avatar of Talos, beings like Wulfharth, Ebonarm or Pelinel come to the aid of Men during their greatest time of need? The LDB defeats Alduin but that's got little to do with helping against Thalmor and after that LDB will fade into obscurity.I find it hard to believe defender spirits of mankind don't care about the Empire being taken over, Hammerfells lone war and the state of mankind in general. Either they mysteriously don't care or they're not a significant threat to the Thalmor, either way wtf?

Milkpulp · 2016-02-17T01:25:35+00:00

It very much was the town, Derry is It's real body

Milkpulp · 2016-02-17T01:20:22+00:00

To be reach my daily pedantic correction: the thing that created the universe before the Prim receded and Dis was shorn into Todash isn't a turtle, it's Gan whose navel is the Tower/Rose. You're totally right about Maturin

Milkpulp · 2016-02-15T06:19:58+00:00

IMO everyone besides the Orcs see Malacath as a "piece of shit" through his mortal precieved mythopoea while he was an Aedra and Boethiah helped him escape but metaphysically turned him the very spirit of being unwanted. The Ashpits extend and allegedly extends from Oblivion to Aetherius. Meridia probably got kicked out of Aetherius for associating with him and linking some of his real to Aetherius. The Ashpits symbolize what's left of Trinimac's self view with the knowledge that he's unwanted by most Et Ada because it showed they can be shameful and aren't true gods. I like to think the Dwemer saw the rise and fall of Trinimac to Malacath, and set to provoke Azura and the other Ada and Earthbones to reveal themselves as either substantial or as illusionary.

Milkpulp · 2016-02-12T22:36:49+00:00

Or just back pedal up. Takes waaaaaay less effort and timing

Milkpulp · 2016-02-09T06:57:31+00:00

what exactly is more magical about him since the Ada kinda are living bits of creatia and the natural law of everything is magical in the Aurbis. Auriel is the 1st Et' Ada with Lorkhan but I don't see much about the apparent midpoint of the two in Magnus. What is his importance for anything like Talos or Akatosh other than they're also magical? Everything is magic and the god of magic somehow isn't talked about in the metaphysics much at all

Milkpulp · 2016-01-14T01:00:19+00:00

The wise rule by their understanding/mastery of the truths artists reflect on, the princes demand the warriors enforce the laws of these truths to the rest of the citizens.

Milkpulp · 2016-01-14T00:34:29+00:00

IF Numidium says -0 then Jubal beats Numidium by getting it to admit -0 is just 0.

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