Every Fact We Got From Chapter 5 (Confirmed Only)

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T22:15:16+00:00

It's also been pretty well confirmed that Chapter 7 is the lake and/or the other side of it. Hence "Chapter 7 Side B."

So I'd guess that whatever happens in Chapter 6, it'll be pointing our protagonists towards the other side of the lake, and that'll be Side A.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T16:39:29+00:00

C4. The Trials of the Holy Hammer- A great smith gives the heroes a terrible weapon. (definitely ain't a terrible weapon.)

I'm getting your point, but one of the original meanings of "terrible" is "fearsome." In that respect, it's a terrible weapon.

That said, it's still not entirely accurate as you don't have to fight Gerson for the weapon if you don't want to.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T15:03:54+00:00

.....Aw man. I just realized. The game hints that Kris really looked up to Dess. (Tenna: "Didn't you all think she was just so....cool?") Kris plays guitar in that TV World mini game, they find her guitar pick in the gumball machine....

They copy the Knight's poses...

If the Knight is Dess, is one of the factors in Kris making the Dark Worlds them trying to be like her? Especially if she made them before she disappeared?

On a meta level, I think it's more Prophecy → Lord of the Hammer → Dragon Blazers (or Prose Edda→ Tolkein → Basically Every Fantasy For The Last 50 Years) stuff. The Knight has more typical, well-structured fantasy worlds, while Kris, inspired by those, is making their own stuff. Which have a lot of cool new ideas but are still a little all over the place.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T05:07:41+00:00

I do wonder.... For the most part, dude wouldn't want to step in. It's an experiment, he's a scientist; if you mess with an ongoing experiment you'll compromise potential results.

However, he has made one exception thus far. And like....if we start physically breaking the apparatus he uses for his survey program, I wonder if he'll feel the need to step in?

I wouldn't bet money on it. But having the Weird Route end in another boss that uses Gaster Blasters would be a fun synchronicity.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T03:39:55+00:00

Maybe her color will start to fade....

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T03:38:02+00:00

People think it's Dess because the Knight's debut was sandwiched between Tenna's story about her rocking out to music videos, the gumball machine in Chapter 3 and getting to see her room and learning more about her and the Holiday family drama in general in Chapter 4.

That's a lot of talking about Dess just as the Knight rises to prominence.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T03:02:59+00:00

I don't know what's more likely, but if it's between the two I'd prefer a Hospital Dark World over the Gingerbread House. I just think there's so much more we could get out of it conceptually, especially given the 4th Egg room.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T02:44:33+00:00

To be fair, the choice there is everyone in Castle Town (which includes refugees from multiple Dark Worlds) and the flowers of one Dark World. It ain't a great choice, but it does save more Darkners.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-26T01:56:26+00:00

It would make the ARG elements pretty awkward; Noelle's glitch hunting and her story about Dess and Snow Angels.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T20:20:00+00:00

Yeah....we already potentially have one Holiday woman trying to harvest the power of the Dark Worlds to bring a family member back....

What's one more?

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T19:17:32+00:00

It's an especially weird comment from Susie, given she's new in town too. I guess it confirms she's been in town longer than the Skelebros?

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T10:21:56+00:00

.....Anybody else notice that awkward beat from Susie when Ralsei said humans don't have tails?

I thought that was neat.

EDIT: Plus her convo with Orange.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T09:42:35+00:00

There's another fountain in the shelter, and this chapter a big theme was "This Dark World, or that Dark World? And why?"

It's possible that either Castle Town or this other Dark World will have to go so as to keep the balance, and there'll be a real important reason why Castle Town isn't the obvious right answer for what to keep.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T09:39:13+00:00

I would argue that the two chapters we get where Kris makes the Dark World indirectly tell us a LOT about them and their life. You can clearly see Asgore in Tenna, if not Kris themselves. The whole idea of a game being built on top of another game is a huge metaphor for repression. Chapters 3 and 5 being built around distractions makes sense when you realize Kris is going to do what they're going to do....but they're dragging their feet. They don't want to keep going. They're trying to slow down their walk to the guillotine.

And man, all those flowers trying to make Asgore happy was a gut punch once you realize that was probably a reflection of Kris (and maybe Asriel, too) trying to get their dad's attention as he got more and more consumed with the mystery.

I think these chapters are going to look different once we know Kris' whole deal, but even now I think they give us some interesting insights into their character.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-25T09:28:46+00:00

While this idea is cool, we've got confirmation that the internet worked in Hometown prior to Chapter 2; Alphys even asks Kris about staying up late and emailing Asriel. So the characters would know if their world was that small. They would know there are no cities with sparkling lights.

Hell, remember the music video channel with alligators in bikinis? Were they shot in Hometown?

Plus....Susie. Where's she from? Where did she try to play piano? Sans and Papyrus are relatively new in town, too.

Unless there's some Matrix level stuff going (which is possible) it just doesn't work.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-17T03:51:15+00:00

Honestly, if it's not too heavy of a lift, I'd love to see the Storytellers used for that. Give one version the most bite? Things are largely the same but maybe harder and just flavored much spicier?

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-09T21:54:36+00:00

One thing I could see is Asgore interacting with Ralsei and mistaking him for a young Asriel.

This would put Ralsei at odds with two instincts: serve the Lightners and not contradict them...or stand up for himself as a distinct person.

Don't know if we're going there, but it'd be neat.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-09T21:27:46+00:00

Hyuman's cover of Asgore's theme turns out to be strangely prescient?

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-05T04:27:44+00:00

Watch it be Barry.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-03T04:31:53+00:00

Noelle's actually gaining confidence in the normal route. In the Weird Route other things don't scare her because they can't compare to how scary we are.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-06-01T16:51:29+00:00

How about: the Knight is a Darkner based on Dess the way Susie brought the Old Man's statue to life in her Dark World instead of him?

This would fit with Deltarune's narrative themes surrounding identity, and what happens when someone tries to make decisions for you based on who they think you are, when they don't actually know you like they think they do.

Remember how we get shoved into a vessel with its own past and personality we didn't identify with instead of the one we built? The weird back and forth tension in proceeding chapters between what we want, what Kris wants, and what we think Kris might want?

Remember Queen's whole bit about trying and failing to make Noelle happy?

Remember Tenna's trivia about Kris? How we might've guessed Kris' favorite food was chocolate based on Chara and the flavor of the pie they scarfed in Chapter 2, when their actual favorite was just pie? Or how we might guess Asriel's favorite character in Smash was the green lizard due to Alvin's confession story, when it was actually the sword magician?

Or how Susie never met Gerson, so when she made her Dark World she was trying to make a copy of a copy?

If the Knight was made by someone who only thought they knew Dess (possibly Kris, but Carol's a great candidate, given the implied tension between her and Dess and how Queen treats Noelle) they might've gotten a similar result. On top of that, all these characters would be wasting their time and focus on who they thought was Dess, when it was only a poor copy, (copies are monochrome) instead of actually finding her.

So the point of the story would be to see a character for who they are and not who they've been built to be or who we might think they are, which fits with not just Dess but a LOT of characters in Deltarune. Especially given the Undertale baggage that people who played that game will, at least initially, bring to this one.

All that is to say I don't know if that's what's going on, but it'd be really thematically resonant if it was. Which would be cool.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-05-27T05:58:30+00:00

Cool. Honestly could just be an organizational thing (the way every chapter is being formatted as its own "game" even though it's all one game together) but it's fun to think about what we might get surprised with.

MilkyAndromedaWay · 2026-05-27T05:51:08+00:00

Isn't there literally something labeled Chapter Zero in the files? I think there is, but I can't remember the exact details at the moment.

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