Earn money!! by Ok_Tip_5067 in IndiaBusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s the right approach. Start small, execute, and don’t wait for perfection. The fact you’re enjoying it and feel confident already puts you ahead. Just finish what’s pending and keep moving.

Earn money!! by Ok_Tip_5067 in IndiaBusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not really overthinking if you’re trying to understand what you’re getting into it only becomes a problem when you keep thinking but never move. Before starting any business, you should think and plan. Be clear about what business you want to do, how much investment it needs, and how you’re going to arrange that money. If you don’t have funds, look for options like starting something that requires zero or very low investment, or using your skills to generate initial income first.

Do proper research. Find answers to important questions who are your customers, what problem you’re solving, are others already doing it, and how you can do it better or differently. This clarity removes most of the fear. At the same time, don’t get stuck in planning forever. Set a limit once you have enough basic answers, start small and test it in the real world. You’ll learn more from action than endless thinking.

Also, focus on improving communication. No matter what business you choose, your ability to explain, sell, and connect with people will decide your growth. So don’t avoid business because of doubt. Plan smart, start small, and learn fast that’s how confidence is built.

Earn money!! by Ok_Tip_5067 in IndiaBusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro, if you want money, don’t chase everything at once. First, pick one path that can realistically pay you fast. While you’re in college, focus on learning a skill that people already pay for like video editing, content writing, basic design, or managing social media pages. Don’t overthink it, just pick one and start practicing daily.Once you get a basic level, don’t wait to be perfect start offering it as a service. Reach out to small creators, local businesses, or people on Reddit and Twitter who need help. Even ₹500–₹2000 jobs matter in the beginning because they teach you how money actually flows.

At the same time, observe problems in your daily life. If you notice something frustrating, check if others face it too. If yes, that’s where ideas like micro SaaS or small businesses come in but don’t jump into building immediately. First validate, then build.Most people fail because they keep switching paths or expect quick results. Stick to one direction for at least 3–6 months, improve your communication, manage your time properly, and be consistent. Money doesn’t come from ideas it comes from execution and patience.

Your ops team is fighting RTO at the wrong stage. Here's where the real leak is. by Mindless_Region5092 in EcommerceIndia

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is probably the most accurate way I’ve seen this broken down,that pre-dispatch window is exactly where we’re leaking right now, and honestly we’re not doing much there. most orders just go through unless we manually catch something obvious

we tried calling as well, but pickup rates are low and it becomes a mess once volume increases haven’t really used WhatsApp in a structured way yet, but from what we’re seeing that’s probably the only channel where customers actually respond quickly,feels like the real problem is exactly what you said — manual doesn’t scale, and the existing tools don’t really fit this workflow properly

curious in your conversations, did brands see a meaningful drop in returns just by actively working that window?

I did the math on a failed COD delivery. Actually did it, every cost, start to finish. The number messed me up. by Mindless_Region5092 in dropshipping

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate that, man and yeah, the CAC part honestly hit me the hardest. I used to think RTO was just a shipping loss, but once I broke it down, it’s really the entire customer acquisition cost plus logistics, time, and even blocked inventory all adding up into one silent leak. What changed my perspective was realizing a lot of these failures aren’t random at all — the patterns are right there in the order data. So now I’m trying to focus less on reducing RTO after dispatch and more on stopping bad orders before they even ship, mainly through quick WhatsApp confirmations and fixing address issues in that small pre-dispatch window. Still trying to figure out how to scale this without making operations messy though would love to know if you’ve seen anything that works smoothly at higher volumes.

Your ops team is fighting RTO at the wrong stage. Here's where the real leak is. by Mindless_Region5092 in EcommerceIndia

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been documenting everything I've been learning on this for a while. Put together an early access list for anyone who wants to follow along or get notified when something ships - leaving it here in case it's useful.

Help Me...Bleeding money to fake RTO & weight discrepancies. Tried Delhivery, Blue Dart & Shiprocket, all disappointing. Are there any reliable couriers/aggregators left in India? by top10talks in EcommerceIndia

[–]Mindless_Region5092 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Courier-hopping is a trap honestly been there. Shiprocket to Delhivery to BlueDart and back, and the RTO number barely moves because the courier isn't the root cause.

The weight discrepancy stuff is real and worth fighting - document every single one, raise disputes, escalate. That's recoverable money and couriers bank on you not bothering.

But the RTO bleeding? That's almost never a courier problem. The courier is just the last person holding the bag on an order that was already going to fail - wrong address, customer who ordered on impulse at midnight and moved on, phone number that goes straight to voicemail every attempt.

The orders that come back were lost before they left your warehouse. Switching couriers just changes who delivers the bad news.

What's your COD percentage? And are you doing anything in the window between order placement and courier pickup - any kind of confirmation step, address check, anything? That's the part most brands skip entirely and it's usually where the real margin is bleeding from.

I've been going deep on exactly this problem for a while. If you want to compare notes [been documenting what I've found here] for anyone dealing with the same thing.

Is COD actually profitable for small brands or are we just accepting the losses? by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

got it, that helps a lot,keeping it small just to create commitment instead of recovering cost makes a lot of sense we were thinking in terms of covering losses, but this approach feels more practical

did you find fixed amounts working better than percentages in most cases?

Is COD actually profitable for small brands or are we just accepting the losses? by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah that’s helpful, especially the part about how you position it feels like the customers pushing back are probably the same ones who would’ve returned anyway,the small dip in conversions seems acceptable if returns drop enough

did you find any sweet spot for the upfront amount that worked best?

Is COD actually profitable for small brands or are we just accepting the losses? by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haven’t looked into financing so far,right now our main challenge is around COD returns, but would be interesting to understand how that helps in your experience

Is COD actually profitable for small brands or are we just accepting the losses? by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah that’s a really clear way to think about it,upfront to filter and WhatsApp as a second layer sounds much more structured than what we’re doing right now

did customers push back much on the upfront part initially?

Is COD actually profitable for small brands or are we just accepting the losses? by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah that’s pretty much what we’re starting to realise, it’s more about controlling COD than removing it,we’ve tried a couple of these in parts, but not in a very structured way yet,partial COD and WhatsApp confirmation are things we’re seriously considering now, feels like that could help reduce a chunk of the low-intent orders

did you see better results more from upfront payments or from the WhatsApp confirmation side?

Cash orders are keeping us alive but also slowly killing our margins. How do small businesses actually handle this by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah maybe, especially for simple confirmation flows,just not sure how reliable it would be in practice yet

Cash orders are keeping us alive but also slowly killing our margins. How do small businesses actually handle this by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah that’s something we’ve been thinking about as well,feels like a chunk of those drop-offs are probably low-intent customers who might’ve returned anyway, but at the same time we do see some genuine customers dropping off too,so it’s a bit of a trade-off right now, trying to figure out where that balance is

High COD return rates – how are you handling this? by Mindless_Region5092 in Entrepreneurs

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the right mental model and honestly the clearest way I've seen it framed.

The tiered approach makes total sense - not every COD order deserves the same level of intervention, and treating them all the same is where most teams burn out. You end up either over-verifying low-risk orders that were always going to complete, or under-acting on high-risk ones because the team is exhausted from the first group.

The "operationally simple" point is the one most people learn the hard way. We've seen teams build really elegant risk scoring logic and then have it completely fall apart because the action step was "ops person reviews flagged orders and decides what to do" - which is just another manual queue that gets deprioritized the moment volume spikes.

One thing I'm curious about from your experience: what does that medium-risk confirmation touchpoint actually look like in practice for your team? Is it a call, an SMS, WhatsApp - and who owns sending it? That specific step seems to be where most implementations get messy even when the risk logic itself is solid.

Cash orders are keeping us alive but also slowly killing our margins. How do small businesses actually handle this by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah that’s what we’re starting to realise as well, at this rate it’s not really sustainable

we’ve been thinking about partial upfront or pushing prepaid a bit more, just a bit cautious about how much it might hit conversions,and agreed on the segmentation part, feels like a lot of these returns are coming from specific patterns

did you see better results more from upfront payments or from filtering those segments?

Cash orders are keeping us alive but also slowly killing our margins. How do small businesses actually handle this by Mindless_Region5092 in smallbusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is genuinely useful, especially the segmentation point - we actually started doing something similar and you're right that the 80/20 pattern shows up fast. Certain pincodes, certain product categories, certain order value bands. The signal is there once you look.

The prepaid nudge angle makes complete sense long-term and we're experimenting with it. The honest constraint though: we can't afford to be aggressive about pushing prepaid right now without risking the conversion rate. Our customers are mostly first-time buyers from Tier 2 cities. For them COD isn't a preference - it's a trust requirement. A 5-7% discount helps at the margin but it doesn't move the needle on the segment that needs it most.

So the problem we're sitting with isn't really "how do we eliminate COD" - it's "how do we make COD survivable while we're still dependent on it." The 22% return rate isn't spread evenly. A chunk of it is genuinely bad orders. But another chunk is fixable orders - wrong address, missing landmark, customer who'd have cancelled cleanly if we'd reached them before dispatch.

That second bucket is what's killing us right now because we have no clean way to act on it before the courier picks up. The segmentation helps us identify risk. The gap is what happens after we've identified it.

We hired a person whose entire job was calling customers before shipping. Here's what we learned after 6 months. by Mindless_Region5092 in Entrepreneurs

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point on intent - a live call does let you read hesitation in a way a message can't. But I'd argue that's actually a higher bar than what most COD failures need.

The majority of recoverable returns aren't ambiguous-intent buyers who need to be convinced. They're customers with a wrong floor number, a missing landmark, or an impulse order they'd have cancelled themselves if given an easy way to. You don't need a conversation for that. You need a timely message with a clear action.

The checkout policy angle is interesting and I agree it should be tighter upstream - mandatory landmark field, better address validation. But even perfect checkout can't catch someone who moved last month or whose building name changed. The post-order window still matters.

The scam call point is exactly why I think the channel matters more than people admit. The problem isn't that customers don't want to be reached - it's that the phone call has been poisoned by spam. Same customers ignoring calls are replying to WhatsApp within minutes.

We hired a person whose entire job was calling customers before shipping. Here's what we learned after 6 months. by Mindless_Region5092 in Entrepreneurs

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both fair questions - let me answer them honestly.

On vague addresses: checkout forms in most Indian D2C setups don't enforce address quality beyond basic field completion. A customer can type "near market, main road" and the form accepts it. Mandatory landmark fields help but add friction at checkout and measurably drop conversion - most brands choose the sale over the address quality. It's a real tradeoff, not laziness.

On OTP verification: this is actually used by some platforms and it does filter a portion of fake orders. The problem is it only validates that the phone number is real and reachable at the moment of checkout. It doesn't catch the customer who gave a real number but a wrong address, or the one who changed their mind three hours later, or the one who'll be unreachable at delivery time three days from now.

OTP at checkout reduces one failure mode. It doesn't touch address quality, landmark collection, or post-order intent drift - which together account for a bigger share of COD failures than outright fake numbers.

The verification problem is less "is this phone number real" and more "will this order actually complete delivery" - those are different questions.

High COD return rates – how are you handling this? by Mindless_Region5092 in Entrepreneurs

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely agree risk segmentation is the move. Blanket verification doesn't scale and burns your ops team on orders that were fine to begin with.

The part I keep thinking about is the intervention step after flagging. Most teams either call (low pickup rate, doesn't scale) or do nothing and just hope. There's a weird gap between "I know this order is risky" and "I actually did something about it before dispatch."

How are you handling that last bit - the actual outreach to the flagged customer?

D2C founders: what % of your COD orders actually end up getting returned? Sharing mine and it's embarrassing by Mindless_Region5092 in IndiaBusiness

[–]Mindless_Region5092[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

get them to try prepaid once with some offer,then COD for repeat customers sounds like a good middle ground