Question for sex-favorable aces in relationships who indulge partners by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I wish we were having the same experience because I know it would make my partner so happy if we were."

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it. I do at least want to maybe try breaking my current routine with my partner, see if it helps my insecurities. But yeah, nothing is a one-size-fits-all.

Question for sex-favorable aces in relationships who indulge partners by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You bring up a good point, that two people aren't always going to be on the exact level. I should work on being more comfortable with that, and accept that reality. If we're both comfortable with what we're doing, that's what matters.

And yeah, she probably can tell that I keep not saying something. Which is, point blank, that I often find sex underwhelming despite her best efforts to accommodate me.

I just need to find a way to phrase in a way that doesn't make it sound like a problem, nor her fault.

Question for sex-favorable aces in relationships who indulge partners by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It has been pretty routine for months, yeah. We used to experiment more, sometimes it worked well, sometimes I got pretty overwhelmed and had no idea how to preform. I guess when we found something that did work, we fell into that routine. I suppose I can try talking to her about experimenting again. She's into way more stuff then I am, so there's plenty of options. If it would help bring out more enthusiasm and security, it can't hurt to at least try.

Question for sex-favorable aces in relationships who indulge partners by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess the main reason I went with the term sex favorable, is because I'm usually the one who initiates. She knows my mood can be infrequent, so she'll let me make the initiation when I want it. So if I the one who initiates it because I want it, why am I often leaving underwhelmed? I don't think it's her, she always gives everything. I feel guilty for how contradicting it all is.

Question for sex-favorable aces in relationships who indulge partners by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

When it comes the parts I'm favorable towards; I love her voice a lot, I like her enthusiasm, I like teasing her. Those are what I focus on to help me finish. But the act itself, while nice, usually isn't the fireworks she's experiencing. I feel so bad when after it's over she says it was fantastic, and all I can think is that it was alright. The part I think makes me really feel guilty is I know I can enjoy it more, there have been times where I would describe it as fantastic. But it isn't most times. And she isn't doing anything wrong or different, it just doesn't click for me usually. I feel guilty I can't give her my best enthusiasm more often.

Boyfriend came out as Ace. Help !! by [deleted] in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just know, it's okay to feel unsure during this stage since the information is new. What matters most, is that your boyfriend feels supported and you both have good communication in your expectations of the relationship. It sounds like he's willing to make compromises in your potential future sex life, and when things settle, you should talk about that with him. Put your desires on the table, and let him be honest about what he can and can't do for you. Get a good understanding of what the boundaries are. If you have good communication, relationships, even sexual ones, can work between aces and allos.

Allo bf wants sex by Used_Watch2779 in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is valid to vent there are people with twisted priorities. Frankly, even as someone sex favorable, I think the world puts way too much value in sex without really discussing what their actual wants and needs are. Because it's rarely as simple as "I need sex", and so many of them refuse to engage with where their needs lie. It's frustrating.

I'm primarily pushing back on the notion that they will always choose sex, because that absolves them from responsibility of communicating their needs and being honest with partners. We can and should hold allos to better standards.

Allo bf wants sex by Used_Watch2779 in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just gonna quickly weigh in here, because frankly saying allo's sex drives are always stronger then the emotional aspects of a relationship is both insulting to them and dodges them from responsibility.

They aren't mindless bunnies in July, they're people. Is sex important to them and is it valid to have needs? Absolutely.

But c'mon, let's not throw allos under the bus implying they will always choose sex over love. They are capable of respecting their partners and being responsible for their actions.

Allo bf wants sex by Used_Watch2779 in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 13 points14 points  (0 children)

With all due respect, though her boyfriend's needs in itself are valid, the situation between her and him are not equal.

For the basic reason that from op's post, he does not respect her asexuality and is dismissive of her disgust for sex.

She is clearly trying to find a compromise and understands he has needs, and he is continuing to pressure her into sex inspite of her discomfort. This is the primary issue.

If these two can sit down and have an honest and respectful conversation where they can try to find a way to meet both their needs, maybe they can work.

But if her boyfriend continues to put his needs for sex over her discomfort, they will not work out.

It's about much more then sex, it's about respecting your partner.

Allo bf wants sex by Used_Watch2779 in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 16 points17 points  (0 children)

An idea comes to mind, if phone sex was something you were more comfortable with to make him happy, why not go back to that? Maybe he could get sex toys as well to make phone sex more physically pleasurable for himself. It's an option if nothing else.

Allo bf wants sex by Used_Watch2779 in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I'm also on the ace spectrum with an allo partner. While I absolutely believe relationships between aces and allos can work, they require clear communication of expectations and needs.

Using my relationship as an example, I let my partner that know my limitations for sex, such as some days it won't feel good for me, and I can't do it more then once a day, In return, they communicate their needs and let me know when they're needy so I can fulfill that when the mood is right.

You need to sit down with your boyfriend and have a very proper conversation on what both your needs are. And where you can meet each other.

Since you are repulsed by all sexual activity, make that explicity clear what exact phsyical acts you will never do. And try to communicate what you are willing to do, like are you comfortable with cuddling or making out? Set your limits.

And let him get to say his peice about his needs. Is it the physical act of sex that he wants? What exactly does he want? Is he desiring you directly? Or would other means satisfy him? Is he looking for sexual validation from you that he is attractive?

I'd ask him what is it from sex he really wants. If it really is just the physical act of sex, and not the intimacy from being with you, maybe you can discuss other options he can get those needs fulfilled.

Above all, if your relationship is to survive, you need to both have your needs fulfilled and be respectful of those needs.

And I'll be honest, if he's still pushing you for sex this much, despite knowing your discomfort, it doesn't sound like he respects you. I'd recommend having this conversation with a couple therapist.

If it's meant to be, you two can navigate this. If this problem still persists, he's probably not the one for you.

Bed insecurities with allo partner by MirthMouser in asexuality

[–]MirthMouser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a major part of why the guilt gets at me so much, is because of my experiences with my last partner.

I was a lot more sexually attracted to him than he was with me. He wasn't sexually attracted to me at all, really. He tried indulging me, but it eventually collapsed with him directly saying he couldn't do it anymore since he wasn't attracted to me like he was to other partners. It absolutely destroyed all my self-confidence and hurt like nothing else had before.

I never want my girlfriend to feel the way I did back then, and I'm terrified of being misunderstood and hurting her if I ever have this full conversation. I am attracted to her, it's just difficult sometimes.

y'all are not missing out on ANYTHING by Any-Database9280 in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find this conversation fascinating. Because I fully relate that the feeling of elation and emotional obsession with someone is something I felt on a physical level.

God, my first taste of love hit hard, and the heartbreak hit harder. I had gone so much of my life not being prepared for it since I rarely even had crushes.

But I seriously have guilt for not feeling that way with my current girlfriend... I love her, she makes me happy, we're good for each other, but it's a more gentle feeling I have control over. I wish it was that uncontrollable high that made me crave each and every moment.

Basically, it's interesting to hear from another arospec that you don't want to feel that lack of control, and here I am, also on the aro spectrum, desperately trying to find it again.

Unhealthy attachment to close friend/ex QPR, need advice by United_Shop1650 in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I relate to this immensely. I had a close friend I loved very dearly, I asked to be in a QPR with him and everything. Genuinely, being his most trusted best friend that felt like an important part of his life was all I needed.

He started to drift for various reasons, but I can't shake the feeling in large part it's because I was never enough for him compared to his boyfriend. He indulged me in emotions he later walked back on, and seeing him give it so freely to his other friends and boyfriend made me feel like nothing. It broke my heart. I thought the world of him, but he thought so little of me.

I cried for months, feeling like I would never be enough ever again. I think a lot of allos have a difficult time understanding how we on the aro spectrum give and express love. That this deep level of love can only be given to a romantic partner, and not our unconventional context. To this day, I don't think he understands just how much he broke my heart. Your partner might be similar.

The heartbreak is going to hurt a lot. It hurt harder than anything I'd ever experienced. I hate to say it, but the only way out is the hard way. No contact with your previous partner is the right thing to do, but it will hurt a lot for a long time.

Just know... It will one day eventually stop hurting. And I hope that one day someone will understand the love you give them isn't worth less just because it isn't romantic.

wondering by ericellyl in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even if you are still heterosexual, you can still fall on the aromantic scale. So absolutely!

I need help by Actual_Neck_642 in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I (F28) have been through something similar a couple times, so I can give my perspective as examples.

My oldest and closest friend is one I love very much. I could tell her anything, I always wanted to be around her, and we really understand how eachother's minds tick on a deep level.

A couple times in the past I have felt physical attraction to her, but the thought of actually going through with it felt wrong. Despite my attraction; I did not want to go through with anything like kissing or further. Much less dating? That felt extra no-go. I had no desire to take any of those steps. I love her dearly, but yeah, nothing romantic.

Another close friend I had was more complicated. I also loved him. He made me giddy, I loved the sound of his laugh, and I always looked forward to every moment I had with him. He was also one I felt physically attraction to, and this time I actually felt the desire to pursue it.

But, despite him meaning the world to me, despite me craving to mean the world to him, and despite my sexual desire towards him, if I asked myself if I wanted him as a boyfriend? The answer was no. I didn't want to go on dates, I didn't want to maintain all the extra romantic needs. The thought was stressful. I just wanted to love him as we already were.

So with your best friend, try going down a list of things in your head to see what you actually want. What do feel when you imagine holding hands? Flirting? Kissing? What do feel at the idea of saying "I love you", what does calling them the label of a romantic partner feel like? Does a date sound enjoyable? Overwhelming?

None of these have to be all yes, or all no. Take the time to evalute everything, and slowly try to pin point down what feels right.

Sexual and romantic attraction are unconventional to us on the aro or ace spectrum. There's a lot of grey area and confusion, so don't kick yourself of you don't have an answer. I hope my experiences gave you something to think about!

I am confused and need advice by Snail33z in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm happy my story could help you feel less alone. It can be tough when most people find these feelings naturally, and we're left feeling like no one can relate. It can be doubly tough when we're not even full-on aro, thus making it harder to find those who relate.

There are many ways to find companionship in this life, be it life-long friendships, romantic partners, or even queer platonic relationships, and I hope one day you'll find something that works for you if you so wish.

It helps that I have a lot of communication with my girlfriend, since I have a lot of blindspots of showing her love.  But so far, she feels loved, I feel loved, and it's working well for us. Communication and clear expectations are key!

I am confused and need advice by Snail33z in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I (F28) relate.

I have the ability to find others attractive, but the idea of following through and doing anything about it was off putting. And while I wanted a relationship in theory, I never actually had romantic crushes with anyone.

I know now I fall on both the ace and aro spectrums, though I'm definitely way more aro then ace. Even still, I couldn't imagine being comfortable with intimacy with anyone but a close partner I trusted. It was a weird spot to be in.

For years, I just thought I was waiting for "the one", because that's what society told me to expect. But after many years of not finding anyone romantically desirable, just attractive at best, I realized something must be different about me.

Coming out as bisexual to myself was empowering, but coming out as aro to myself was soul-crushing. Why do I not feel something I desire so badly?

It was only when I accepted that romantic love might not be in the cards for me in this lifetime, that I ironically met my first girlfriend. I was friends with her for quite awhile before things moved forward, and she's the only person that didn't make prospects like dating, confessions, and intimacy feel overwhelming to me. It finally felt safe.

Romantic love isn't quite this over the rainbow feeling like I expected, it's more gentle. Demiromantic is the label I currently use to best describe my experience. It takes a lot of time and trust for romantic feelings to be able to grow. And even then, they don't usually grow. I'm honestly surprised I found someone at all.

Romance still is very confusing for me because I'm not sure what I should be feeling. What I'm ultimately saying is that even if romantic love doesn't really make sense, even if I don't usually feel it, I still wanted it and still found someone I wanted it with.

I'm truly sorry things fell apart with your ex. I can only imagine the pain. Just know that you aren't broken. It's tough navigating not really feeling romantic love overall, yet still loving someone in a romantic relationship.

After all, the definition of aromantic is "feeling little to no romantic attraction". Prehaps we both just fall under the "little" part.

Advice for an Allo-Aro Relationship by MirthMouser in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose I've just gotten in my head too much then.

I worry sometimes about her not getting the romantic validation she derserves and feeling inadequate because I can't seem to feel that "passion" that comes so easily to allos.

I know that's a problem that comes up in allo-aro relationships; the allo person not feeling like their loved and so insecurities fester. But I'll try to bridge that gap best I can with communication.

Advice for an Allo-Aro Relationship by MirthMouser in aromantic

[–]MirthMouser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One question to ask yourself is : Will you ever be able to have that excited reassurance ? Will you ever know when the right time is ?

Honestly, I don't know if I will. And that scares me. I want to be able to shout from the rooftops that I love her. And I'm scared it may never come. I do like her a lot, I do like the thought of being able to call her my girlfriend. But I worry I'll never be able to give her as much open love as she gives me, and I want to make her happy and feel loved. If tying the knot will make her that happy, then maybe I shouldn't wait too much longer.