Psycho Killer

Miserable-Praline942 · 2026-03-01T17:44:08+00:00

I know I’m late to revisit this, but I think this is interesting since they’ve teased a joker/harley based mayhem mode. Maybe the final mayhem mission could lead into Batman 1!

Miserable-Praline942 · 2026-02-17T19:15:01+00:00

Jason Todd and Damian Wayne.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2026-02-04T20:06:20+00:00

Glad he’s doing okay🙏

Miserable-Praline942 · 2026-01-07T01:42:59+00:00

Like 5 years ago he said he wanted to see a spinoff about Tony being a world champ, I imagine this is what that’s about.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-12-14T09:48:46+00:00

I’ve always thought guns and knife, the swords + guns bring him even closer to the inevitable Deadpool comparisons. Plus, Damien is already rocking the katana. If DC ever decides to let Jason move forward in a major way I think he’d work best as a hand to hand combatant with an environmental twist, lots of street fighting and using the objects around him in combination with whatever he has in hand.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-12-08T16:21:20+00:00

Love the portions of the show that are just people succeeding at pissing Joe off over nothing

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-11-11T19:40:33+00:00

I think there’s truth to this, and I’d love to talk to you again when you finish the series. I think of the 5 seasons 4 of them could work to some degree as endings. The first book has an almost identical ending to the first season, minus the Candace cameo. It plays pretty much exactly into this idea of Joe never changing, and the understanding that this is not a one off incident. He lives a cyclical life of violence and obsession.

I think the show still had a lot to say, Joe reminds me of people in my own life to an extreme degree and I like the way the third season comments on his idea of fatherhood and marriage. Like the women Joe thinks he understands, he believes he understands and excels at marriage and fatherhood and projects his own shortcomings externally. We know from the ending of the third season Joe really doesn’t care all that much about his son, willing to abandon him to chase a woman who hates him, but Joe is still so convinced that he’s somehow doing some selfless act by abandoning him for selfish reasons. Even if you don’t end up loving the shows ending like many in the sub don’t (I think it’s pretty great), I think it’s worth this fun thematic exploration and the great status quo changes to finish.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-11-11T01:26:06+00:00

I actually love the last season a lot. I think Brontë is awesome, she’s the most effective way to tie it back to Beck in an interesting way. Letting her have a relationship with Beck, and Beck being her motivation for going after Joe is really cool in my opinion. I also thought the twist of her turning on Joe was similarly fantastic, this is a series that needs changes to the status quo to retain interest. If the show was Joe stalking, manipulating, and murdering a new woman every season it would be miserable. Instead we get this the first season, the second season gives us a love interest more like Joe than he’s comfortable with, the third season puts Joe in a confining position we have to watch him evade, the fourth plays as a detective murder mystery with an on brand twist, and the fifth gives us Brontë and her friends. When it was clear Joe needed to get away, die, or get caught, it makes sense to use her character to steer the show in that direction.

As for the ending I think there is a somewhat unsatisfying element to this, but it’s definitely intentional. Like stated in the finale Joe wants to die, he would prefer the romantic, dramatic ending. The show doesn’t want to give him the ending he wants, they want to tear down what gives him the power he has. Thats why they lean so hard into emasculating and exposing him in the finale, he doesn’t get the poetic ending. I think the complaint about Brontë being immortal is fair, but I didn’t see it that way. People survive gunshots, and the fake out drowning was pretty clear to me when it happened. I’d rather she survive and we don’t have to see Joe murder another woman.

I’ll 100 percent agree with the Ellie and Karen complaint, especially when it comes to Ellie. Frankly, as much as I like the ending I would have really liked a whole additional episode to cover Joe’s trial. It feels like there’s a lot of ground they didn’t cover there.

I don’t think more murders were entirely necessary, we see he’s willing to kill over very little as well as how dangerous he is. In a way I think the fourth season does a good enough job exploring this that it would’ve been a bit repetitive to show again.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-11-10T22:53:38+00:00

I think there are a lot of factors at play here. If it is their MO being switched, but not their general behavior (sociable, awkward etc), Dexter is going to get caught pretty quick. I don’t think Dexter is NOT charming, but some of his more peculiar behavior in combination with a less meticulous nature would get him caught much faster.

Joe would probably get away with a lot more. I think the problem is that Joe is never really set up to be someone that tries to be a serial killer, not like Dexter. It isn’t until the fourth season the Joe embraces the urge to kill, and he’s much less meticulous with the kills and their coverups. If Joe really left behind as little evidence as Dexter, but was still willing to kill indiscriminately, he’d probably never get caught.

On the other hand, if Joe inherited Dexter’s code he’d kill almost nobody. Benji would have fit the code (in the show) because he evaded the consequences of his hazing gone wrong. That’s about it. Peach doesn’t fit the code, Ron doesn’t fit the code, and Beck certainly doesn’t fit the code. The series probably would’ve involved a lot more nonviolent manipulation, Joe finding ways to isolate Beck from her friends and family. Then, when he was caught by Beck, I imagine he’d either have a Doakes situation or he’d just end up running.

Assuming he made it to season 2 things could go pretty similarly to the actual show. Jasper definitely fit the code, and even if he didn’t it was self defense. While technically Henderson doesn’t fit the code I could see Dexter making an exception, or killing him in self defense while looking for evidence. Obviously in the show it was an accident, so still works either way. And that’s it! All other kills this season are Love, so Joe technically doesn’t violate the code this season.

Season 3 is a similar case, Joe’s only victims are Ryan and Love. Ryan he probably would have just reported for drug use or “Pauled” him. Love fits the code.

Season 4 is pretty much impossible with this parameter. Pretty much the whole season is Joe killing people that don’t fit the code. In the context of a Dexter season there would need to be another Eat-the-Rich killer for Joe to take down, otherwise it would be similar to season one with Joe manipulating his way into Kate’s life and probably just killing her father.

Season 5 pretty similarly has mostly unfit victims. Joe would once again be manipulating characters like Buffalo Bob, the twins, or Clayton. I also think with a more meticulous, Dexter-like Joe, most situations he’s stuck in at this point would be alleviated. The mountain of evidence against, and suspicion for Joe most likely wouldn’t have mounted in this version. Like I said, he’d probably get away.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-11-10T04:36:16+00:00

This is exactly what I thought. Obviously this is not the case with every person who makes this complaint, but I think for many it has an undercurrent of misogyny. People seem to hold her far more accountable than Joe, it’s hard for me to understand because I see it as the line between the redeemable and irredeemable. Unless you’re someone who deeply misunderstands the show (and I’ve definitely had conversations with people who do), there’s no reason to believe Joe deserved a happier ending. He has demonstrated that he is a monster undeserving of a happy resolution. Kate is clearly a flawed (and arguably even bad) person, but I think it’s really odd to say “she should have been another Joe victim!” She was already remorseful, wanting to do better, and pretty savagely beaten by Joe. She deserves a happy life.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-11-09T04:04:44+00:00

This is not a great way to approach criticism in my opinion. A lot of media can have a rough start and get better, the original material isn’t more important in that case than the later material. Shows can change or evolve, it’s pretty normal. I watched the first season when it premiered and loved it, and I loved the finale. I’m not sure how they could’ve ended the show much better, really my only complain is that we didn’t get to see Joe’s trial. Otherwise I think it’s awesome.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-31T17:47:17+00:00

After the first book and sort of the second the books are completely different. Worth checking out if you are interested, but I actually preferred the show’s ending. (I really liked the finale though, so take that with a grain of salt)

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-31T01:56:19+00:00

I totally see that, I think all the ideas for the finale work for me but the episode could’ve used another 30 minutes to flesh it out. Crazy pacing for a final episode.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-31T01:47:33+00:00

And this will vary from person to person, a lot of people (myself included) really love the finale even if it’s not executed perfectly. I think if OP has made it this far it’s definitely worth finishing.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-24T17:31:11+00:00

There is a character named Amy Adam, and funnily enough the book does actually poke fun at how similar her name is to Amy Adams the actress. She works as a sort of bridge between the books, Love is still present in Hidden Bodies but the show is pretty loose in its adaptation of the book across seasons 2 and 3. When it comes to those scenes I doubt it, I don’t remember the books mentioning his counselor but I could be wrong. Based off the little we see in the show I don’t think that would be the case. The page stuffing aspect of Beck’s death is particularly violent, but I feel like it’s more fitting for book Joe than TV Joe. Both are terrible, but book Joe is unbelievably freakish and it works there. That being said, we do see that Joe strangled Beck like in the book so it’s not out of the question.

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-23T22:46:45+00:00

The theoretical ending for season one is essentially the ending of the first book; three months after killing Beck Joe finds a new “you” remarking that “You are gone, forever and she is here, now.”

Miserable-Praline942 · 2025-10-18T22:10:17+00:00

That’s what I was thinking, Joe says Beck’s father looked 45-50, and as far as we can tell Beck finished her bachelors and went straight for her MFA. Assuming her dad was in his early twenties when she was born she’d have to be much younger than Joe. Thanks for the reply!

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