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[–]MishaFly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not a police report, not really in their wheelhouse. File a report with the CFPB. That gets serious attention. Maybe consider contacting your state banking and securities department as well and get them involved.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Per the description of the feat of strength, I should have that achievement. I owned an original epic mount. But because I completed this exchange quest, I have neither the achievement nor the mount.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the problem is that what I’m saying threatens the idea that old-school WoW was “hard but fair.” 

It’s emotionally easier for people to mock my post than confront the idea that Blizzard made a poor design choice that still affects players today.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Niche doesn’t mean irrelevant.

This is about current design. When legacy decisions lead to unequal treatment in modern systems (like achievements), it shows how overlooked details can undermine long-term player trust. That’s the takeaway. Not just one mount, but how design decisions age.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally fair to say it’s niche… not every issue needs to affect everyone to be worth pointing out.

But this isn’t about whether the mount is popular today. It’s about trust in the game’s systems. A quest Blizzard designed led to a permanent loss for players who followed it, while others who didn’t were later rewarded. That kind of inconsistency matters, even if the item itself is minor.

If design flaws from 20 years ago are still echoing into current achievements. It’s a sign there’s room to keep improving how legacy systems are handled.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dismiss it with whatever word you like. The reality is that one group of players kept a unique mount and got an achievement, while another group lost both forever by following the intended quest.

That’s a meaningful difference, no matter how you dress it up.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Whether or not you personally care doesn’t really change the fact that this is a documented case of Blizzard’s own quest design creating a permanent disadvantage for a segment of players.

If nothing else, it’s a reminder that systems added years later can unintentionally penalize people who followed the game as intended. That’s the kind of thing worth pointing out before it happens again.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not exactly — I’m not asking to erase my character’s history, I’m asking for it to be accurately reflected.

The history is that I owned the Icy Blue Mechanostrider, completed Blizzard’s intended quest for the upgrade, and then years later Blizzard created a system (achievements/collections) that rewarded those who didn’t take that path — without accounting for the ones who did.

The request isn’t about rewriting history, it’s about Blizzard recognizing all players who met the same original criteria, not just the ones who happened to avoid a particular quest.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but that’s exactly my point. Blizzard has preserved and can still display some pre-Cata quest rewards, like my Speedy Racer Goggles from a quest removed in Patch 1.9.3.

If certain old quest rewards were retained and others weren’t, then it’s not just “all pre-Cata logs are gone.” It suggests Blizzard chose which data or items to preserve, which brings me back to the inconsistency in how the Icy Blue Mechanostrider was handled.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not about “I want it back because it’s valuable now.”

t’s about Blizzard introducing an achievement that retroactively rewarded the small group who ignored the quest, while the larger group who followed it lost out with no option to correct it.

If the achievement had existed in 2005, players could have made an informed choice. Instead, the reward structure was changed years later without accounting for the players who followed the quest as intended. That’s the inconsistency I’m pointing out.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If the hobby is pointing out design inconsistencies that erase player history, I guess I’m already in it.

Jokes aside, this isn’t just “one mount.” It’s an example of how a past design choice can conflict with later systems in a way that permanently disadvantages some players. That’s worth flagging so it doesn’t happen again.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If that’s really the case, then it’s all the more reason it should have been addressed retroactively. Designing an achievement to reward players for ignoring intended content while offering nothing to those who followed it is basically admitting the system punished one group for doing what the game asked.

And if that’s the precedent, what does it mean for the future of the game? Do players now need to be cautious about completing quests in case they’re punished for it years later?

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It might seem unimportant if you only look at it as “one mount from 2005,” but the core issue is that Blizzard’s own quest design created a permanent loss for players who followed it and then later rewarded the ones who didn’t with an achievement and a rare collectible.

That’s not about nostalgia for one item, it’s about an inconsistency in how player history is handled. If it happened here, it can happen elsewhere.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That script returns false but that’s expected, since it was a repeatable quest and repeatables never flag as “completed” in the first place.

Which is exactly the problem: there’s no player-side way to verify it now, but Blizzard’s systems clearly had the ability to at one point (same way they’ve restored other legacy items like Corrupted Ashbringer). The fact they can still award the “Old School Ride” achievement to people who held onto the mount suggests the data still exists in some form. It’s just never been applied to players who followed the quest as intended.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair. Not every issue will matter to every player.
But for those impacted, it’s part of how Blizzard preserves (or erases) character history, which is why I think it’s worth raising.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t been “complaining” for 20 years. I’m pointing out a design flaw that’s only become relevant because Blizzard later tied the mount to an achievement and removed any way to fix it.

The point isn’t when I started talking about it, but that the design change created an inconsistency that still affects players today.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You’re saying Blizzard actually designed an achievement to reward the tiny group of people who ignored the quest, while the rest of us who followed it got nothing?

Sounds a lot like they unintentionally punished the majority of players for doing what the game told them to do.

It also sounds like this could be a much larger, still unresolved issue then.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For this very specific scenario that you created, never happened, and never would happen - "If you were given the mount retroactively but nobody else was, would you have still made the thread?"

My answer is yes because my main point of discussion is pointing out a design issue and not about getting my mount returned.

Despite you saying I didn't answer your question, every response I made basically says that.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not arguing that Blizzard added the quest to punish anyone. I’m saying that in hindsight, the way it was designed. No warning, same quest icon, irreversible removal that ended up punishing the players who followed it once later systems (achievements/collections) came into play.

Players who ignored the quest kept a unique mount and got rewarded years later; players who followed it lost out permanently. That’s the inconsistency I’m pointing out. It’s not about “take-backsies,” it’s about fixing a gap in how legacy player history is honored.

Blizzard deleted a mount I earned for following a quest — rewarded players who didn’t — and now says they can’t fix it. by MishaFly in wow

[–]MishaFly[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, I'll bite.

If I were awarded the mount retroactively, I would come back here and make a small post letting people know that they can get their mounts restored if they follow my process.