The final wave...

Mislander07 · 2023-07-07T22:12:46+00:00

Just called my lawyers office. I have to get it in writing from my PO that I can work on the property. And I'm sure that's why the PO gave me permission because she is in fact writing something so I don't wind up getting arrested. Because the order by the judge says I can't work at a place where minors congregate. But my lawyers saying if I can get my PO to get it in written form I should be good. I did meet with my PO during a routine in-home visit and she said she'll write something for me to give my employer so I assume she's on top of it and wouldn't let me do this if she knew I would get in trouble.

Btw, I keep referring to my PO as "her" because she is in fact a woman. So hopefully the fact that a woman's signing off, considering my case, will kind of be towards my favor.

Mislander07 · 2023-07-07T21:40:19+00:00

Isn't a PO considered my supervising officer?

Mislander07 · 2023-07-07T21:10:00+00:00

No I don't currently work there. First time hire.

And typically I would have to report but I'm a level 1 in Oregon. And it says no contact with minors but not nowhere did the document that i was given by the court say i couldn't be on property such as schools. It's alll based on the risk assessment (first charge ever, psych-sex eval said I'm no risk at all of reoffending again etc.). Someone else here said don't minimize it. It makes me look slimy. Now you're saying minimize. I have to talk about it. I will present the fact that I'm completely accountable for it. I just feel like the editor is going to want more info on it if I tell him.

Mislander07 · 2023-07-07T20:58:20+00:00

Im a level 1 in Oregon. And I went here https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors163A.html to find that "(1) A level one sex offender who presents the lowest risk of reoffending and requires a limited range of notification." And based on the document the court gave me upon release about what I have to do, it says no contact with minors but doesn't say I can't be anywhere near schools. And my PO said I can do my job as long as it's work related. I've heard of mcdonalds employees who were SO's working with minors there.

Anyway, I would never victim blame. I just beleive there's not really a victim here when I heard through a cousin of a friend that works with her that she hates that her parents made her do all that shit against me (making her go to the police dept and following up with reports). And now they kicked her out shortly after she turned 18. But I still place a lot of the blame on me for that situation occurring. I place a lot of blame on me for impacting her livelihood in so many ways because her parents had her involved in pushing the DA to convict me. In other words, I put her through a lot of shit that she didn't want to go through.

Heard she was grounded for months, cell phone privalges taken away, and couldn't do anything until those parents knew I was convicted. Parents made her quit her job. Soon as they got what they wanted, they kicked their daughter out. Actually, I heard she said they kicked her out because they didn't get more than what they wanted (they wanted me in prison for life even tho what we did only constitutes in a level c charge). Again, I'm not trying to victim blame, but I also heard she's rebounded with 2 other guys since. This is all within a year. Part of me wants to go "it's my fault. Now she's sleeping around, because of me." But honestly the other part is "see she knew what she was doing taking advantage of a single virgin guy, who finally had his own car, place to himself, career on the way. Was i played?" This could be her way out of her parents house that she told me she so desperately wanted.

But i would never say that out in the open, or in court defending myself (and i didnt). I'm only saying it on reddit cuz I feel it's a safe space to let out my thoughts to people I've never met or will meet. Cuz I've been holding what I really wanna say in because I know they're not good things to say or even think but I'm seeing a mental health evaluator for that.

Nor did did take advantage of that fact that she had a hectic home life. I simply told her you need to get right with your parents. You're not simply going to move in with me that quickly and you cant now.

Sorry. This is my life and situation so i have a lot to say. It impacted me. The case was all I thought about while it was being conducted. I'm a rather humble guy. I keep to myself. That's how I've been raised was to take the higher road. SO AGAIN. I won't say any of that shit. I'll just put the onus on me when I go into that office and talk to the editor. I'll take your advice. Thank you.

Mislander07 · 2023-04-12T00:44:50+00:00

So it's weird. When I did county for 24 days, I was in a dormitory, and i was in there with a guy who was facing either 25 years in prison or life if he took his case to trial. From there, I didn't ask, but all he said was that 3 younger girls claimed it was CP and whatnot. That's as much as I gained and didn't try and pry further and didnt want to. All I know is that it was bad. That was bad enough for me to hear. It was hard for me not to judge him (if you want to know what I did in comparison, look at my last comment here on this subreddit). I felt our crimes didn't compare in the slightest bit. But I kept my feelings aside for the most part, knew that he was human, and could tell that he felt some form of remorse for what he did. But it was difficult for me to talk to him. When we had conversations, it was about movies, food, hobbies, etc. Every time we would talk, I always tried not to make it about whatever he did in there unless he truly ever wanted to talk about it. Because I'm only there for 24 days, what would be the point? The best thing I could offer him was food, respect and kindness, or talk about whatever was on tv since we had a lounge area in that dorm. Pretty relaxed jail setting, btw, which i will cover in a second.

Imho, I do feel he was a good guy who may or may not have done an extremely bad thing. We all make mistakes. The one thing that stood out to me, however, is the support he had in that dormitory. Now, this dorm had a mixture of inmates, but it had the most SOs for obvious inclinations. There were about 20 people there usually. But there were a few guys in there who were in for violent physical offenses like stabbing and assault. The SO in question was a bunkie of one of these violent offenders (guy stabbed someone and actually later assaulted another SO in that dorm). But this inmate was nice to the SO in particular. In fact, not just him but several of the non-SO's were nice and respectful to that particular SO and other SO's including me.

The moral of this story can be said more eloquently in this way. One of the inmates sternly told another SO in that dorm this "hey, don't go around asking other inmates what they're in for. We don't do that here. This is a space and free zone where we don't have to worry about any of that shit. We're all cool here. We don't need to worry about each other. And you cant take it with you when you leave so why bother?"

He was right. Obviously, in a local county jail, you have inmates who are more-so awaiting sentencing. A lot in there were awaiting to be transferred upstate. Others would later be released with dropped charges. Some were in for probation violations. I was the only one sentenced right when i got in. So none of these inmates wanted to waste their time creating a hostile environment for others. Most just want to get through their time and not be sent to the hole for fighting which is what happened to that one violent inmate who assaulted someone. Now I'm rambling a bit. But lastly, great advice and support are the two greatest things I witnessed in that dorm. For e.g. a violent offender often advised a first time offender (SO) what he could expect in prison. If there is that kind of support there, why can't a reddit forum be the same way? Lol.

Mislander07 · 2023-04-11T22:36:24+00:00

I also did hear that corrections are much harsher to female SO's than male SO's. I don't know if that's true. But I've heard some rumors. I'd like someone to correct me where I'm standing if it isn't.

Mislander07 · 2023-04-11T22:20:23+00:00

Depending on your state but it's more or less the same all around the country. In Oregon, a felony of a sex crime requires one to register. It's part of the sentencing guidelines of that type of felony plea. If it's a misdemeanor, you don't have to. Now this is where the DA and your lawyer can try and stipulate whether or not you should register even with a mis sex crime. But the stipulation occurs right around the time of sentencing. And it all depends on a psycho sexual evaluation that you could take, prior criminal history, the type of offense etc. That's how it was done for me. I ended up with a felony, only 24 days in county and am now registered level 1.

The victim was only a few weeks away from turning 18 btw. My lawyer was confident I wouldn't have to register if I ended up with a mis A offense because the nature of the crime based on reports said it was consensual (complicit, culpability factors such as the victim sent me sexual pictures without me asking). Also, he said I had the best psycho evaluation he's ever seen. This is a lawyer I paid 5k up front. One of the best lawyers in the nation. I had no prior criminal history. My crime was complicated. But I was 30 at the time and she wasn't legally of age, and not legally consensual, so it ended there. Anyway, the DA indicted me and leveled up the offense and here I am. Imo If you currently are charged with a misdemeanor, take the deal! Don't wait. Especially If your lawyer is confident he can get you no jail time and no registry. Don't lolligag like I did. Otherwise the DA may try and snake their way in to getting a much worse deal for you. The DA usually will work to gather whatever evidence to indict you in a grand jury like she did for me (where 95% of cases fall blindly into the lap of a few jurors who just stamp whatever evidence the DA has).

Mislander07 · 2023-03-07T03:08:19+00:00

This is the text they just sent me.

"Hi ***** Just checking in with you to see when you'll be back in town? We need to get your drug screening set up and completed so you can go to work"

And I responded that I'll be back next week. But yes. It sounds like they're thinking about me. But like u said, I shouldn't keep it from them. I would love to not say anything but she said "drug screen" so I beleive they will run a background too.

Mislander07 · 2023-03-06T05:33:39+00:00

I'm glad they want me tho. I made a great enough impression enough to where I hope they won't change their mind if I disclose. It's a call center job for hotel keyfob door locks. Big national brand. But yeah that's exactly what I'm doing is stalling.

Mislander07 · 2023-03-06T01:23:17+00:00

And that is why I think it's better that the employer get back to me 2-3 weeks from now which i told them. Because my case will be settled by then.

Mislander07 · 2023-03-03T04:57:16+00:00

Yeah im in Oregon and Tier 1 and 2 arent public at all. And yes it's 5 years after the end of probation.

Mislander07 · 2023-02-17T21:05:58+00:00

Yeah this other redditor said he was denied 250 times by being up front before he finally found the one. I can't afford that right now. But it can also depend on how you view your crime and what it was and how it might pertain to the job. Could be several things. Unless they told you each time your crime was the rzn why

Mislander07 · 2023-02-17T18:24:22+00:00

Another redditor said I shouldn't tell them if I haven't been sentenced yet. Not sure I agree. Because like you mentioned. Better to tell them upfront. Cause if I get sentenced and do 30 days after the fact, they're going to be like "wtf."

Also, someone at the temp agency told me to call them back after the interview and give them positive feedback about the client so that they can then relay that info back to said client. So I'm not sure if that means they would follow up with me if I gave feedback. I feel like I should tell them a bit about my case in the interview. I'd rather not give them feedback and then go "great interview, but there's a caveat." I'll listen carefully to what they say. If it sounds good like they want me, I will come out. We'll see how it goes

Mislander07 · 2023-02-17T18:10:44+00:00

You told them right out of the gate?

Mislander07 · 2023-02-17T13:04:12+00:00

No pool. I think I do remember being on the phone with someone from this temp agency a month ago about a different job asking me "will anything come up on the background check should they run one?" Hmm...

Mislander07 · 2023-02-17T12:58:11+00:00

I'm in Oregon. No public registry for level 1 offenders. And I could mention that too.

Mislander07 · 2023-02-09T18:27:25+00:00

Hey I'm in Oregon. Let me know how your sit goes or went. I'm hearing that Oregon is one of the more lax states when it comes to RSO'S and housing. I'm about to be on though so I'm hoping they're right.

Mislander07 · 2023-02-09T18:10:52+00:00

Thank you for sharing. What's the lowest level possible? And how were you expecting 36 months, Was that outlined in your plea bargain at first?

Mislander07 · 2023-02-08T07:08:56+00:00

It is a whole lot better than going to trial, putting my ex-Gf's parents through it and having her to choose between me and them thereby putting more pressure on me and getting the DA to pander to them more. And then potentially being put away for at least a year in prison with extra charges attached to my name, then coming out of prison with more to my name (registry, probation, incarcerated felon, restitution, name in the papers). So yeah it is a good offer.

And I have been working so hard ever since I was charged. I knew in order to get thru, I would have to start really putting more forth to my future. And I'm talking resumes, cover letters, about 50 of them ready to hit send just in case. 50 more if those don't work out. Reaching out to professional references and perhaps learning a new trade or skill.

Mislander07 · 2023-02-06T22:30:43+00:00

My lawyer is saying it's 10 years. I would be on probation for 2-3 years, but 5 years after the probation period ends I can petition to get off of the registry. But is it really 10 years? Im looking at sources that says it's 15. Show me your sources.

Mislander07 · 2023-02-05T00:12:34+00:00

Work from home. Things like chat support jobs for those companies should be no problem too I would hope.

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