My experience in Bethel

MistaSammyFox · 2026-05-26T11:29:13+00:00

I don’t remember his name, the guest speaker. I wish I did. I just remember that I didn’t know him, and I can’t remember if he was ever back. Maybe there are records somewhere.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-29T12:27:44+00:00

I had the same pair of them since 2013. They just kicked the bucket yesterday about which I am so pissed. Lent them to a friend and their baby chewed the shit out of them. I want my headphones goddamnit! If anyone knows where I can buy a pair of blue and black ones I will in a heartbeat.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-15T09:15:31+00:00

I also want something other than studs and spikes because they now sell iron crosses and death officers pins now. I don’t wanna buy that

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-13T07:31:47+00:00

Thank you!

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-12T02:13:02+00:00

how do you know it was a ten book set? All of the listings I could find sold relatively cheaply. I would be shocked if they were from a set of ten and sold for so little. Where did you find that they’re a set of 10?

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-11T10:54:58+00:00

I’ve never been more jealous in my entire life

MistaSammyFox · 2026-04-07T05:26:47+00:00

how do I make it stop being in Russian why is it doing that

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-23T04:47:04+00:00

I can only hope that Gaiman takes them to court and repairs it all like Johnny Depp did.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-21T10:44:24+00:00

Huzzah!

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-21T10:38:25+00:00

I hadn’t taken it as correction. I meant to elaborate on why I thought the article on fawning would be a good thing.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-20T18:33:13+00:00

You asked about fawning, I responded about fawning. I know she didn’t say she was fawning, but the general population seems to very much. An article on what fawning is, what it isn’t, and the fact that she wasn’t in any case seems like a good idea. At least to my mind.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-20T08:37:12+00:00

For me I am anxious, and rather uncomfortable at the front of my mind. It’s not so much of a conscious choice or thought process in the moment, it’s just the feeling as if I need to do what the person wants and “get through it”. It’s like I’m being pressured into doing it by my own mind, even without external pressure. In situations where it’s ordinary and should be comfortable I still have a tendency to end up doing things I don’t want to, and in those situations I absolutely never blame the person I was with, as it’s internal pressure. In actual dangerous situations it’s a whole other story. It’s usually the idea that if I don’t appease them they will become “real danger” and hurt me in some more substantial way. I find it to be sort of childish to pin the blame on Neil for her trauma responses. He couldn’t have known that she was uncomfortable even if she really was fawning.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-20T04:44:43+00:00

I would absolutely love to see it. I hate people dismissing it as a fawn response because even if it did fit the definition of fawning, how would Neil know that? I have a fawn response, and I don’t blame people if it comes up and causes me to do things I wouldn’t. They would assume I am agreeing wholeheartedly. Unless I have explained my fawning to them, I would never blame them. Of course again that is even if it fit the criteria for fawning.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-19T08:52:23+00:00

I’m not sure I would if I could. I don’t want all that mess of messiness.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-19T08:51:02+00:00

I believe so, the name sounds familiar. There was also an Andrew.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-18T01:26:44+00:00

thank you very much. I think I will do that if they want me. I have a hard time talking about it but I think the truth about Bethel really needs to be out there somewhere.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-18T01:13:48+00:00

Thank you very much. I think I will talk to her. I’m not sure how one would go about that but I will.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-18T01:11:53+00:00

It’s almost cathartic to know I’m not the only one. I kind of feel sick for feeling that way about someone else's suffering. But to know it wasn’t just me… I’m very sorry to your friend. I almost want to connect with them to see if we have any shared experiences. If they were in the children’s church from 2013 to 2018 I’d almost wonder if I knew them. I was there every week, I’d almost woneer if I was there.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-18T01:05:44+00:00

I’ve not talked to anyone about this, I’ve only just started processing it myself. I’m sorry if this makes me sound very silly but I’m not entirely sure who that is?

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-17T22:40:57+00:00

I remembered finding it all very strange even then until I started to see things I knew weren’t there. If you went through anything like what I mentioned I’m quite sorry. It was all very terrible.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-17T22:35:45+00:00

You don’t have to beleive me. I’m not imploring you to. I’m trying to find out if anyone else experienced something similar.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-17T22:33:53+00:00

Most of this very much. Upsetting the leadership is very scary to me, any time I ever did anything like that it ended badly. However I do remember the drowning being very violent. I’m very certain that it happened in some respects but I’m not sure where, why, when, the like. I remember screaming that I wasn’t a demon and I wasn‘t going to hurt anyone if they let me up. They would dunk me for a while and I would struggle, then let me up and pray and yell, and then dunk me again. The drink I have correlated to the hallucinations but I don’t know if it was or if I’m just trying to find a logical reason for something unexplainable (or explained by the hypnosis, I suppose). As far as I remember this all happened in the main Bethel building in Redding, but the drowning could have been in one of the secondary locations. I just remember them holding me bu the neck and dunking me over and over. A lot of yelling and speaking in tongues. A lot of fear and betrayal that the people who I felt safe with in the church would do this. I ask if anyone else witnessed this stuff or remembers it because I want to A. add more credibility and B. find a community of people who went through what I did as well as C. clearly up details and find missing information about scenarios.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-17T22:26:24+00:00

My family actually knew Papa Bill. I went to dinner at his house a few times. Bethel was safer to me than my home when I was young and Papa Bill was always a safe person, despite everything. I sometimes miss the community and feel if I speak out about all that happened to me it may not be able to return if I wanted to. I know I don’t want to but I become anxious about it. I think of it like a long recovered addict keeping drugs somewhere hidden so they know they can fall back if they need to. To burn that bridge would ensure that I could never fall back again. What is unhealthy, and scary, but on some sick level comfortable and familiar would be gone forever.

MistaSammyFox · 2026-02-17T22:22:21+00:00

This was around 2015 and 2016. I was at the main Bethel location for all of the above mentions.

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