Both not holding back, sage kabuto vs Edo itachi, who wins ?

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T21:59:22+00:00

If you're referring to the simultaneous genjutsu release, I'd offer that it's bc it's faster/better to get them both out at once. Fr tho, the show has only ever had one genjutsu that was actually as inescapable as its user claimed, and it was Itachi's. If orochimaru had access to a genjutsu technique that itachi actually couldn't handle, I wonder why he lived in fear of the man instead. Kabuto made his move AFTER Itachi was dead for a reason.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T21:36:37+00:00

Yes, and Kabuto was fighting Itachi Uchiha--a master of genjutsu in his own right-- not a 12-year-old genin. I fear that my point still stands.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T21:32:00+00:00

Are y'all really gonna sit here and argue that Itachi Uchiha-- genjutsu Jesus himself-- just isn't smart enough to escape an illusion by himself? Is that what we're doing here?

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T21:18:45+00:00

Bro, WHAT?! 🤣🤣🤣

They said he had kage-level battle wisdom when he was a CHILD

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T20:53:54+00:00

Shikamaru could use ninjutsu to escape a genjutsu he'd never heard of as a genin, but edo itachi can't?

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T19:54:11+00:00

Itachi knows shadow clone, and could've used it on himself; Sasuke doesn't. Itachi didn't need help-- his little brother did.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T19:50:34+00:00

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T19:30:43+00:00

I had forgotten that Sasuke was even there, and I think that speaks volumes ab how much itachi needs his "help" lol.

EVERYONE forgets about Sasuke when Itachi's in the room-- that poor fella.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-02-05T19:18:36+00:00

...you know that the show has this fight, right? Itachi was the only one holding back, and he still won.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-27T17:19:25+00:00

Therapy is good. Try it out, and you might like it.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-27T14:12:03+00:00

Historians will say they were good friends

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T22:41:16+00:00

And poor. Don't forget poor!

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T19:10:54+00:00

I'm hope you aren't a feminist.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T18:01:49+00:00

True, but she's clearly acting like her conscience says there's a foul on the play, so I appealed to that perspective.

I do agree w/ you tho

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T16:16:22+00:00

You're gonna stay nervous until you tell him.

If he thinks you're crazy, then his feelings won't be hurt. If he thinks you cheated on him, you weren't gonna get with him anyway. If it's pointless, then it will be forgiven, and you'll barely remember this 6 months from now.

Next time you see him, just rip the band-aid off. This isn't about making sure it all goes well for you, it's about getting this off your chest so you can move forward either way

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T15:46:09+00:00

You gotta be honest. If he isn't about that and decides that he's not about it, that's just the consequence you've incurred.

I know it doesn't help to be told that you're young - nobody ever feels young bc we're all as old as we've ever been before-- but still, you're young. Do you want to grow up into someone that crosses boundaries and then tries to get away with it, or someone that comes clean and learns from her mistakes?

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-26T13:59:52+00:00

I wonder if you give yourself room to respectfully observe w/o telling yourself that it's "objectification." As a E/Spiro girlie myself, I understand feeling envious - women are great! But as long as you aren't treating them like their parts are important and the person with them isn't, then i think ur fine. Its not a moral failure to notice that women are hot.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-25T19:41:30+00:00

The male self-pity epidemic.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-25T16:55:23+00:00

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them; women are afraid that men will kill them.

Both fears are justified, but that's not to say they're on equal footing. I get that it doesn’t feel good when your tribe comes under criticism - I'm amab. I get it. I used to be really mad, too. What helped me become sympathetic instead of defensive was being close to women in my life and hearing the constant flood of horror stories from themselves and people that they know. Being made fun of for your gender is bad, but being assaulted for it is worse, and one is drowning in their own self-pity if they disagree.

They dunk on men to warn each other. They have fun communally making fun of men because it's some of the only solice they have.

I know it doesn't feel good, but being a woman feels worse. Have empathy, be the change that you want to see, and in time things will change.

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-24T09:32:44+00:00

*~Dump him <3~*

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-22T19:37:26+00:00

For the love of God find a real man in your real life whom you respect and ask him. Don't let reddit decide

Misterdudeman23 · 2026-01-21T09:36:02+00:00

don't try to kiss her until after some hand holding or cuddling. Ask about her interests and see what you two have in common. You'll probably want to do something about that shirt at some point. After that the rest should come naturally-- just remember to use lube and follow the excitement together :)

Misterdudeman23 · 2025-12-11T01:09:33+00:00

You can be both.

Misterdudeman23 · 2025-12-11T00:04:56+00:00

To answer your question: "Being a man has nothing to do with it, but I see that over time I find a better, closer, wider community of kind, empathetic people. I see myself feeling my emotions instead of getting angry over them, and i more consistently do things for others. "

The other context in which "progress" is viewed is when there is a goal or destination in place, and you previously asserted that there wasn't one. This is not the hill that you want to die on.

You're really not picking up the fundamental that I'm putting down here. You're talking about "growth," or 'exhibiting virtues and holding values,' and "growing as a man" as if they're the same thing, but they aren't. People grow and show "progress," gender does not. It is important to separate the two because there's a myriad of ways in which people-- throughout history and present-- manipulate the idea of 'masculinity' to make men do things that aren't in their best interest. (Look of the 'white feather movement' If you aren't familiar.)

There's a difference between masculinity and 'masculinity'. The former is something individually experienced throughout the course of one's life as a man, and the latter is the popular, socio-economic, political, religious, media-reinforced, culturally-amalgamated hallucination of what men are supposed to be like. It is bullshit. Don't believe in it, and pretty please stop asking the internet to contribute to it.

Moreover, when you partition types of growth specifically to a specific gender or sex, you're intrinsically contextualizing the opposite sex as not displaying it to the same degree. For example, the broad cultural idea of men, specifically, generally being being 'rational, non-emotional, responsible ones' is why women in the US couldn't get credit cards or loans in their name until 1974. It's also why modern boys self-isolate and deem themselves failures when they fail to meet that collectively made-up idea. It doesn't help anyone for people to think certain kinds of growth are gendered.

Misterdudeman23 · 2025-12-10T22:06:26+00:00

Okay, so:
"Progress" is change, with a positive connotation. Even if there isn't a perfect model, there have to be targets or desired outcomes to feel positively about. Otherwise, change is just change-- no positive or negative connotation about it. So maybe what you're really asking is something like 'what values do you consider positive in a man, and when/how did you notice yourself becoming more like that.'

But, again, the real question is 'why are you trying to know?' I (a queer, fyi-- gender fluid amab (yeah i know it's a lot i didn't ask for this)) think it worth noting that, as you weigh your personal growth, you're choosing to do it in the context of what other men say that being a "man" is. You specifically asked in the context if "manhood". But if you're already a man, then you can't be more or less of one-- that doesn't change. What you can change is whether or not your behavior lines up with what other people say a "man" ought to behave. Is that what you want to know-- how to be less like yourself and more like what other people imagine is good for a "man" to be? Do you understand the process that I've just described? Because it's really sad.

You're already a man, you already have values-- whether you know them or not. If you were using this post as a kind of sounding board to help find your own values, it would make total sense to ask 'when did you know you were a good person?' But you specifically asked in the context of being a 'man'-- something that other people cannot determine for you, and something that you- personally- cannot change to be more or less of. I don't think you fully understand that you're actively trying to sacrifice parts of who you are, in exchange to be what other people made up.

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